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Thread for documenting and discussing the creation of new spell effects, and modification of old spell effects.

My own personal wish list:
- Modifiers to Elemental Power
- Stun to decrease attack by 50% temporarily instead of immobilizing the foe

Relevant: http://forum.goldensunhacking.net/index.php?topic=2067.msg41674#msg41674

Base success rates (assigned in the function at 080B0514):
080B0660 - 70% (12/13 - Def debuffs)
080B0664 - 75% (16/17 - eRes debuffs)
080B0668 - 30% (22 - Charm)
080B066C - 45% (24 - Sleep)
080B0670 - 55% (18/19 - Poison/Venom, 25 - Seal)
080B0674 - 25% (26 - Haunt)
080B0678 - 20% (27 - Instant Death)
080B067C - 65% (20 - Delusion, HP Drain)
080B0680 - 35% (21 - Confuse, 34 - HP to 1)
080B0684 - Flat 60% (56 - Revive to 50%)
080B0688 - Flat 90% (57 - Revive to 80%)
080B068C - Flat 70% (73 - Revive to 60%)
080B0690 - 60% (8/9 - Attack debuffs, 28 - Curse, 32 - PP Drain, 80 - Curse)
080B0694 - 50% (35 - May ignore 50% of Def)
080B0698 - 40% (23 - Stun, 85 - Stun)
080B069C - Flat 100% (Def buffs, eRes buffs, Regen, Reflect, Break... seems to be the default for anything that either shouldn't fail or has its success rate calculated differently)

How can I reduce the elemental power granted by equipping a djinni?

Preferably, I would like to reduce it to 1 per djinni.

This is important for the balance of my rom hack, so please, if you have any info, please let me know!

How can I edit which encounters the player will face in a dungeon, or particular area of the overworld? As in, which "groups" are encountered?

For example, what if I wanted Shrine of the Sea God to have its own unique encounters, instead of sharing its monster groups with the Overworld and Kandorean Temple?

How would one edit the "Call" Psynergy, which monster is spawned?

For example, instead of Call Zombie, it's Call Fire Djinn.

I remember seeing info about it awhile ago, but cannot seem to find it anymore.

Hey, I would like to buff the way the elemental power formula interacts with psynergy.

Currently, to my knowledge, each elemental power represents 1% of a spell's damage, with 100 elemental power being 100% a spell's damage, and 150 being 150% of its damage (a 50% buff)

However, I would like to buff it so that each elemental power increases a spell's damage by about 3% (making it MUCH more valuable!)

How would I go about this?

I did see some data in Teawater's code data list, but not sure how what too do with it:

080B02DC = toElementalHexPercent(Relative ePower, eHalfEffective) (Converts to hex percentage. (Multiply by 1.28 or 0.64 and add 256. Equivalent to (1 + Relative Power / 200) and (1 + Relative Power / 400), but those have a rounding error.) In parent function mult, with value and shift out 8 bits.) It's like converting 100 to +50% in hex. (If eHalf, +25%) (150% and 125%)
080B03E0 = calcCast(abilityPower,Relative ePower,percent) (From left?) elemental pow/resist related  *Called from Summon and Effect Only formulas...
Return abilityPower * (1 + (Int(Relative ePower*256/200)/256) * hexPercent
080B0408 = calcHeal(Same as above, but it multiples arg r1 by 2 and subtracts by 200 at beginning.) (From Center?) *Called from Healing formula(s).
Return abilityPower * (1 + (Int(ePower*256/100)/256) * hexPercent
080C6644 = PC Elemental data (E. Levels 0-15)

Basically, I just want to make the Elemental Power formula more effective with Psynergy. Any ideas?

Anyone have any info how to modify the end-effect of Death Curse, and make it more useful?

[Main features:]

Golden Sun 2 Redux is a hack which seeks to rebalance and up the challenge of this game in a similar way to what Grandia Redux did for Grandia.

Unlike other "challenge" mods for Golden Sun 2, this hack will completely revise the entire class and battle system in an attempt to address a number of fundamental flaws with Golden Sun 2 and make overall combat more fun and strategic to play.

Main features:

---- New class system!
Class changes as a result of Djinn will no longer impact character stats whatsoever. Instead players will be able to buy rings from vendors which replace stat multipliers. This change seeks to improve versatility by allowing players to choose what kind of character stats they wish to run independent of the Djinn they use, and more importantly: promote Djinn usage without fear of losing important stats.

---- New djinn and summon system!
Because Djinn no longer reduce stats when used, players are now free to spam them in battle. Summons have been adjusted not to deal percentile damage anymore, but instead a variety of effects ranging from physical to support. Summon rushing is no longer a viable strategy to trivialize boss fights, but the player is not at a disadvantage for setting their djinn on standby either. It's up to the player to take an advantage of both djinn AND summons to win boss fights, often alternating between the two.

---- Character roles!
Each character now posses two unique abilities independent of class: Innate traits, and innate psynergy, both fairly gameplay-changing. For example, Garet's innate trait allows him to heal twice as much as other characters, and his innate psynergy allows all summoned djinn to recover faster.

---- Breaking the elemental limits!
All elemental power and resistance have been raised by 55 in order to compete with physical damage and defense. Unlike the original Golden Sun which trivialized elemental levels, here they are key to winning fights.

---- New weapon system!
Weapons will function completely different in Golden Sun 2 Redux, each with unique properties.

Sword: Guaranteed unleash each time you attack. While not as strong as physical-based psynergy, they make up with a balance between damage and consistency, making them quite suitable for random battles.

Mace: Without a guaranteed unleash they tend to deal less damage than swords. However they make up for it by granting defense and elemental resistance bonuses, making them suitable for a character wishing to spec a "tank-y" setup.

Axe: NO UNLEASHES. However they possess naturally high attack, boost elemental power, and grant bonuses to PP. This makes axes suitable for players who prefer to spam physical-psynergy over normal attacks, or wish to be casters.

Staff= Grants Elemental Power and replaces your physical attack with a spell at zero cost. Their strength lies in their ability to strike multiple enemies at once and increase the magical abilities of your characters.

---- The more the merrier! Isaac's party joins early!
In order to address a fundamental gameplay issue in GS2, Isaac's party will join you halfway through the game rather than near the ending. Dungeon order and puzzles will be re-arranged to allow the player access to Lemuria almost as soon as they obtain the ship.

---- Garet's notes? Directions where to go?
While Felix was stuck trying to find a ship, Isaac and Co. were out exploring the seas! With a new dungeon order, the player may require a bit of direction where to go. Garet in all his lard and big damn glory dropped notes all over Weyard! His butterfingers haven't done him any good, but they do provide helpful hints to his fellow explorers.

Other minor changes include ABOLISHING the link game option, just for quality sake since this is not intended to be a link game. The "summon" function was also changed to permanently show, allowing players to predict djinn usage and cast summons the same turn.

Right now this hack is in very early progress, but I'm open to ideas. All the "unique" character abilities have been settled, so at this point I just need to plan class psynergy and individual items.

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Even if you change High Impact, Magaera will still increase my team's attack.  Any way to make the 0C ability type (Magera's attack increase) into user-only, and give only 12% attack?

Has anyone found a way to unlock Isaac's party early? (For the sake of testing)

I tried using the "Flags" debug menu in this thread, but it just gave me clones of Mia and Isaac.

What would be the fastest shortcut to unlocking Isaac's party? Thanks!

Has there been a list yet how to change items given by chests or events?

Say we wanted to turn Tundaria Tower into a sidequest, and replace the trident piece with a powerful weapon instead.

Would this be a simple solution like changing a single value? Or is it a more complicated process of scripting?

edit:
http://forum.goldensunhacking.net/index.php?topic=2002.msg36441#msg36441

Found this thread, seems useful.

Has there yet been found a way to modify boss elemental levels? (Such as making the Serpant super resistant to Earth, and weak to Air?)

As it stands, summons seek to take away a % of boss health no matter what. It's pretty game-breaking being able to summon-rush the bosses.

Has anyone found a solution to this?

Since most Rom Hacks will NOT Use a traditional linked games with GS1, I'm wondering if we have a solution yet?

Something that "defaults" a link game configuration, which sets all the linked game flags and NPCs to appear (like the Colloso gladiators) and grants the player all the GS1 djinn upon Isaac joining the party?

Since we're making rom hacks here, we shouldn't have a need for the link game screen from appearing in the first place, so a solution to eliminate that too would be necessary.

Archiving this question in hopes it will someday be answered:

Lishy: I only wish we had a means to implement more boss fights. Any ideas? I'm thinking the best way possible is simply to move the Djinn in levels like Magma Rock to block the Tablet at the end, but then how to trigger boss music?

Let's say I wanted a new boss fight at the end of Magma Rock. I'm presuming the way this can be done is somehow moving the Fire Djinn into the final room and having it block the patch.

But how would I trigger boss fight music?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XryhVMWCdI

1:00

Hey guys. Anyone know the two bytes this video mentions to restore the GS2 theme as Motoi intended it? I think I tried asking a long time ago on YT, but I don't think I ever got a response.

Anyone here know which bytes to change, and to what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmv9bU3N1w4

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In seriousness... Could we spam report this so they can ban this dude? I'm getting tired of phishing scammers invading the most recent golden sun hacking videos.

More of a help request thread if anything, and I apoligize for it, but does anyone have any information in regards to changing the music which plays during whatever points in Golden Sun?

I'm not talking about modifying the music themselves, but rather things like changing the boss theme to Madra's theme, just for the sake of giving a lulzy example.

I really want to restore the GS1 overworld, boss, and battle themes. Thank you!

I'm having a peculiar problem with the class separation patch: I cannot make a base "secondary" class for someone in party 2. Specifically, I am trying to recreate the Seer line from Ivan onto Sheba.

The problem arises in that to use a party 2 class, you must use Auto and Party 2, and that because the "base" secondary class uses 5 Jupiter (In this case the Seer class) it keeps pointing to NPC even though the higher secondary classes are fine! Making the problem even more confusing, is that the "base" secondary class isn't gone either, but completely hijacks the main class line due to the auto!

In order to properly implement the Seer classline for the party 2 Sheba, what have I possibly done wrong, and what is the proper procedure?

Hey.
I don't know any other way to go about this, so I'll just be very direct on this:


I have an rpg vision. One inspired by many of the rpgs that had made up my childhood, and even my present day memories. Especially notable inspirations for this is Grandia and Xenogears.



But I also have in the vision.. my own story. My own tales and characters. Something.. Well, something I honestly dream to bring to life. And this is not your average "My dream is to _____". This is something I've put the effort with my heart and soul into.

So here is the outline and concepts I have. It's unorganized, and I'm sure there are typos I maybe forgot to fix.
I haven't really set in stone the events that happen in the story though. If someone is interested in helping me at least write and develop the latter in this plot, it would be HUGELY appreciated  

And yes, this is for a GS hack once the editor is done. Maybe it seems out of proportion, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible in Golden Sun TLA. It's just a matter of scripting everything, and drawing. And I can do pixel art. So I wouldn't see why this project would be any more difficult than another golden sun hack, assuming when the editor is complete.
Although I must say that the sooner the editor is finished, the sooner I can start further development on fulfilling my vision  


Remember that this is unorganized. You DO have to read all the character profiles to understand the gist of the story since I haven't fleshed out the events yet, which, I'll repeat I need someone to help me write.

So enjoy the outline and concepts, don't steal, and please let me know what you think!  

(Unorganized) RPG Plot Outline


Background:

Long ago, when earth was all but waste, the atmosphere all but void, the seas all deserted, humans had once suffered for centuries in hellish, wasteland environments. However, a miracle one day appeared and there came 4 arthropodan deities from another world who took pity upon the humans living in these lands.
These deities, with their combined powers, shaped the land from the deserts and sands they were, into lush, green mountains, giving air and oxygen to the atmosphere and filling the pits of the land into sea and ocean.

However, these deities, as much as they pitied the humans, were not immortal and their life span was bound to an end.
They created 4 magic eggs which maintain their influence on the land. However, if an egg would shatter, the entire element itself representing the egg would shatter as well, there for weakening, until it reverts back to how it was during a wasteland-like state.
In return, they also created a seed of each of themselves in the form of avatars to remind humanity of their actions. These avatars were literally equal to that of a normal human being. But they were not the guards for the magic eggs, but rather the possessor of the historical knowledge. However, the deities also created a single demi-god guardian of a "time" element to watch over the eggs with the ability to repair them, who would reincarnate through each generation, not being susceptible to aging, unlike the other deities who were human beings with the need to reproduce just as any other human.
Sure enough however, humans sought these great eggs of power. Eventually, humans raged war amongst one and other for these eggs.
It wasn't shortly until its guardian had enough. Unable to tolerate the bloodshed any longer, with all her might, she bordered the humans with a giant wall and buried the eggs deep underground all over the world, where no one would find and gather them all at once.

Unable to fight each other, with all mentioning of the eggs erased from past history, humans once again became civil and ended their war for power over the eggs.
With peace returning and the guardian's purpose becoming less and less meaningful, with each reincarnation of herself, she became less and less aware of her own purpose and self.
Eventually, the guardian once again reincarnated, but this time as a normal girl with normal human abilities, much like the avatars. However, unlike the avatars, she possessed not of their knowledge, with no recollection of past memory whatsoever. Peace at this point seemed eternal however.
At least.. That's how it seemed.
With technology and magic knowledge advancing, the mysteries of these eggs were slowly revealing themselves, and there was no guardian to protect it anymore.

The curiosity and greed of human nature. Just like the arthropodan deities, everything comes to an end and dies, with another incarnation to take its place. Greed too, was inevitable to return in this day and age of advancement.






Pre-thoughts on development:

What I want to do with this is focus on the definitions and meanings of reality. Reality itself, emotions, and all such things can be considered "illusions". Yet being illusions, we act upon them, and society is based on such illusions.
But furthermore, what I want to totally aim for is not the destination and end of the story, but the adventure and experience that accompanies it and its characters. As you will notice in the plot, a majority is character driven as opposed to situational phenomenoms. For the characters to even celebrate christmas is a scenario I had in mind, learning from each other and their travels, developping slowly from someone they were from the start, to one totally different by the end.
In fact, for the start of the story, there would be no clear antagonist revealed and no specific objective set. Just three characters who set out on an adventure across the world and try to uncover the ancient ruins and relics that exist within it. However, along the way, they encounter a number of quests aside from their main adventure of uncovering the history of the world. Many such sub-plots for example, such as a sub-plot where they must free a prince that was going to be sacreficed to a dragon.

The character "Shion" is the greatest example of character development and why she's of the 3 "main" characters most key to the story (Menlo, Kagra, Shion). She starts off as one manipulative, but later develops feelings as a friend, conflicting with her goals to decieve you.
So her conflict is of the multiple feelings she has. One of her true intentions and desires, but one also as the friend she has been faking for so long.

The relationship of Menlo and Kagra and how it unfolds once they get caught up in the truths of their world is also another key factor in one of the concepts of illusions that's used. And as those truths unfold, so is the history of damages left by human life in general.
Which brings up the questions of perfection vs imperfection and the tolerance for such damages vs liberation.

Humans have light. And humans have darkness.
This darkness spreads its influence to even the smallest of nursery villages, where new born babies sleep amongst, and the results are genocide.
Throughout the story, I also want to focus on the concept of illusions vs reality, and how reality can sometimes be an illusion, and an illusion reality. But in the end, illusion or reality, you have to accept what happens.
And that though humans are also imperfect with their darkness, they always have light.

Like a tree, desires are natural things to a human being; A necessity for human life.
However, when desires become to great, they become greed and evil; Darkness. A tree quickly overgrows and becomes dangerous. And it keeps spreading, for countless ages, until it goes on for so long that a single tree becomes utterly out of control and ultimately takes over, destroying everything in its path.

But at the same that, that tree may as well be an illusion. And that illusion may be an illusion of an illusion.




Characters and other info:

Element - Deity/Familiar Form -

Earth - Bee
Fire - Scarab
Wind - Dragonfly
Water - Crayfish


Party member Character combat and Weapons/other info (Backstories are later into story):

Menlo
Heavy Fighter
Element: Water
Weapons: Light Blade, Scythes, Chrono Blade

Menlo is your average paladin-esque character with well balanced stats and a high array of both supportive and offensive attacks. Later into the game he is able to use scythes instead of light swords, which utilize powerful secondary effects. And even later, he obtains the Chrono Blade which is the strongest weapon in the game with a powerful secondary effect.

Shion
Light Fighter
Wind
Weapons: Light Blade, Swords, Staff

Although a light fighter who one would think is caster oriented, Shion's roles in combat are very flexible. She can equip a staff and use a wide array of offensive spells hitting multiple enemies, or she can use a sword as a "glass cannon" character with extremely high attack, but fragile defenses.

Kagra:
Light Fighter
Fire
Weapons: Light Blade, Daggers, Mace, Fan

While she is a balanced fighter, when compared to Menlo her weapon variety is much low, making her rather limited. To compensate, she has powerful spells. She is more caster oriented than Shion, but she is more of a spell-blade fighter who's spells utilize a combination of both magical and physical strength.

Kyoko:
Caster
Earth
Weapons: Staff, Mace

Kyoko takes on the appearance of a very small kid. So her health and physical strength is not very high. But she compensates with excellent defenses and supportive spells that can do a variety of roles ranging from resurrecting, healing, stat boosting, and causing enemies to suffer from disadvantages such as poison. But aside from support, she also has very powerful spells that are more powerful than Kagras if equipped with a staff in which grants her a boost.

Shizu:
Caster
Wind
Weapons: Staff, Mace

Shizu lives up to the "caster" and "wind" name by being based on multi-target combat. Her normal spells alone deal less single-target damage than Kyoko, but if she is customized properly, she may take on the roles of a party healer or the highest spell damage in the game at the cost of much PP. Since she has demon blood, she is capable to use weaker summons of creatures to fight for her. However, higher level summons leave her with incredibly low PP.

Olias:
Caster
Water
Weapons: Scythe, Light Blade, Staff

Olias, unlike what Scythes imply, is a party supporter. However, unlike Kyoko, he plays a more serious role of support during combat with much more options available at once. He also has a big more offensive power than the other casters, but his uses of weapons are more so for the magic inherit effects. Or more specifically, the "caster weapons" other characters use that aren't suited for the purpose of spell casting.

Lukas:
Heavy Fighter
Fire
Weapons: Daggers, Light Blade, Sword, Mace

Lukas can use all the weapons but staffs and Chrono blade. In battle, Lukas fights in a mecha suit. As a result, while he does not have the physical pump of Menlo, he is the bulkiest and most likely to survive a party wipe.
As a physical fighter, he has a small array of weak heals and a revival, but he does not have much PP.
The trick to Menlo is that he is an emergency medic with great defenses, and great offense if used properly.
*note*To clarify, his "mecha" is his in-battle sprite*note*

Cyan:
Light Fighter
Earth
Weapons: Fan, Scythes, Mace

Cyan has attack almost equal to Lukas. However, because Lukas has much greater weapon variety, Cyan is left out in the cold with weapon inferiority. However, he has the most speed and can be customized into a party healer. By default however, his spells focus on high single target damage. He has the highest spell damage next to Shizu but his spells cost much less.




Rosewood village
The hometown of the two protagonists - Menlo and Kagra. Also lived the great adventurer or otherwise "historian" Togo, who mapped out and excavated many new locations of the world, uncovering great relics.
However, this village was massacred by a beast who's actions are the result of the Earth Avatar being experimented on. Only Menlo and Kagra managed to survive, but they cannot recall what specifically allowed them to do so either. They just "survived". The area was later investigated by the Shiro Empire.

Familiars
Familiars are similar to the avatars in the fact they represent the deities. However, unlike the avatars, they're more so just simple beings of high magic who take on the form of the deity of their element. Familiars have the power to grant others great magical power, amongst many other abilities. In numbers, they can temporarily manifest into creatures of all sorts of forms and strengths, varying from a dragon to aid their user, or giant mecha to shoot pulses of missiles at enemies.They also have the ability to amplify their users strength as well.
Familiars are very simple-minded, and they are sometimes collected by exotic pet owners.However, because of their combat abilities, they're also used by fighters.
Their personality usually varies and depends on their partner they are contracted with. One can be silly, michievous, and eating your chips, while the other could be staring into your soul with wolf-like eyes.
Because they usually reflect their partner's personality, their reason to fight is as much as their partner's. Although some of them require taming.


Menlo

A young teenage boy who dreams of adventure who idolizes historians and famous adventurers, especially Togo. He has a very quiet nature and low self-esteem of himself. As a result, people have always picked on him when he was younger. Menlo is such lacking in confidence, he apologizes for saying sorry.

During a childhood event, when the Menlo collided with the his friend - Kagra, it created a time paradox where he obtained a fraction of the time element. However, this paradox had caused a number of the elemental eggs to have their seals removed. It was bound for military research. The discovery of the existence of the eggs had been confirmed and half of them were obtainable once again, top secret military sought to find them. However this time existed the technology to scale the wall that prevented humans from doing so earlier, and there was no true guardian to moderate the balance of power of the safety of the element.
On the flip time, the collision provided him a share of the time element, granting him survival from the Rosewood massacre, in which he and Kagra were found and "rescued" by a girl named Shion who befriended Menlo and Kagra.

Shiro:
The antagonist.
A tall, caped figure with cold eyes. Caped, with leather boots, he commands over the Shiro Military Empire as their very emperor. With one insect wing of veins, the other like that of hell's butterfly, his left arm is nonexistent, but instead a mantis-like scythe with monstrous vine-like tentacles wriggling out of control on the same side of his body.

He believes humans have been suffering for far too many years and he seeks to end all genocide in the world through "Project Yggrasil" - a project to reawaken the guardian goddess who's power had deceased from the world. Through the goddess, he would be able to ask of her to perfect humanity and end all wars once and for all. To him, Project Yggrasil is the "war to end all wars".
World peace was a dream of his, where monster-like beings and humans alike, all races and colors, could live together in harmony, as being of the same planet instead of labeling themselves in groups different to each other.
Despite his appearance, he was actually a very kind-intentioned man who, to the people of his empire, was a beauty trapped inside a beast's body.

However, as Project Yggdrassil progressed,  he suddenly became more and more corrupt over time. With the need to take more and more drastic measures to fulfill his intentions, he came to the conclusion that he had to give up his humanity for the sacrifices needed. To gain, one must lose. That is why he had he had the hypnotist acquaintance of his - Shion, induct hypnotic suggestions that will make him less hesitent to further actions. However, Shion took advantage of her position and slowly began to brainwash him as a way to fulfill her own vision of Project Yggdrasil.
Eventually however, the power flipped and it was Shiro who had power over Shion as opposed to her having power over him.
Shiro, corrupted, used his position to control and oppress. What was once the capitalist republic society of the Shiro Empire became fascist communism. Yet Shiro, in the state he was, could not truly harm his people, but instead took things out on the surrounding nations and lands. Below,  hidden away from society, he and his military conducted confidential inhuman experiments anyone would tremble over.
To gain, one must lose. A "small" sacrifice for a "greater" good.

Shion
One of Togo's subordinates in his past adventures and excavations. A very intelligent individual, her long, blue hair reflects it. She lives the present day as a hypnotherapist and philosopher in the Shiro Empire kingo. The master pulling the strings throughout earlier events by the present-day Shiro empire military and the plot, she wants to carry out Project Yggdrasil not to benefit humanity, but because humans, in her eyes, became evil after the influence of the 4 deities; She wants to liberate humanity.

She knows Kagra is somehow linked to the 4 eggs that give the world its magic power, however they cannot be destroyed no matter how abused they are. Shion's knowledge on the ancient history was also limited compared to Shiro, and does not know the exact link Kagra has to the 4 eggs other than she possesses the ability to unseal their chambers. As a result, she resorts to befriending her and observing Kagra and Co's actions to gain a better understanding of the situation, eventually manipulating them into unlocking the secrets of the eggs. However, as her plans are near complete, she realizes her actions are contradicting her true intentions and questioning her motives. She fights together, travels together, breaths together... With the only friends she ever had.. Only to throw them away like garbage in the end?

As one conspiring with the Shiro Empire, she sought as much historical knowledge as she could on the land.
As a result, she took initiative in the past to join Historian Togo on his various excavations throughout the years. Through this, she learned many things about past culture, and that was when her intentions were made to liberate humanity.
In the past, before the deities, humans lived under the shadow of monsters who ruled over them. However, after the influence of the deities, humans grew in intelligence and the roles reversed. It was not humans who were under the shadow of monsters, but monsters under the shadow of humans. Humans treated the inferior savages like waste and trash, and took advantage of them for manual labor. However, it escalated. The definition of "monster" evolved itself, and even creatures on good terms with humans were becoming treated as "monsters". Darkness fell, and these "monsters" were being hunted not for trade, not for survival, but simply to satisfy the sadism and entertainment humans have over seeing helpless "monsters" having their abdomens sliced open vertically with flesh-cutting saws, like knives cutting butter, and them having their organs gently pulled out and thrown to the viewing audience.
Specie by specie, groups of "monsters" fell extinct. Only the strongest savages of the monsters survived to today.
In present day, humans did not do it as much as they did in the past. However, the sour scar of humanity's capabilities still exist today with the extermination of thousands of species.

Shion wants to "save" the world by cleansing humanity of all emotion and back into the organic machines they once were. She believes that though humans thrive with emotions, a shadow also retains in humanity's heart as long as emotion and free will exists. There for, because she loves the world, it is to her responsibility as the world's leading military power to rebuild humanity and "save" the world.

However, in her travels with Menlo and Kagra and Co. she also learns the positives of humanity. As a secret government member of sorts to the Shiro Empire, her only true friend was Olias who grew up with her in a similar life as military members. Since childhood, she lived a life of entire discipline and automation where everything had been preplanned and automated for her. Shion was a fetus, listening to tidbits and learning about the outside world from her womb. She wasn't truly born into the world until she became Kagra's friend. Even if her original plans were to manipulate, she was only awakened into the world after she created an illusion that she too, had been tricked of.
Shion not only manipulated others, but she manipulated herself. She too, was an imperfect human whom she sought to liberate. That is why she accepted the illusion she had of herself when she joined Menlo and Kagra and Co. and destroyed the illusion she had of an illusion. What was the true illusion? Her position and role? Or her emotions and feelings?

As she throws away her act and tries to end her plan of liberating the world however, the emperor Shiro whom she had been manipulating, had been manipulating her to manipulate him as pardon for his actions to obtain the 4 elemental eggs - An action no normal human is emotionally able to let themselves preform normally. That is why people have gone mad, and there had been wars over the eggs. But in the end, whoever the culprit, the only one who had been manipulated from the start is the hypnotist with the extraordinary powers over the mind, and the brilliant intellect. Yet in the end, not even she could escape reality of the illusion that is emotions.


Kagra:
A small girl with a red cap and cape. She has long hair of a bright, silver white like strands of feathers, and a light, gentle skin tone. Kagra is an orphan who knows not where she comes from, or who she was brought up by. Only that she was one day "found" in a nearby forest by the great Historian Togo who raised her when she was younger at his hometown - Rosewood village.
Trained by Togo in the arts of Tessenjutsu, she focusing on her practising in the martial arts of fans and to a lesser extent - Knives, as opposed to worry about her origins. Quite the contrary to her discipline though, she's a very cheery girl who, like Menlo, has a love for adventure.
After the rosewood tragedy however, she started to question herself as she was exposed to the open world. was there answers somewhere out there?
In actuality, she is the time guardian the deities created and she isn't even aware of the fact or her true power. But were she to have her powers re-awakened, she would have the power to forge continents and flood seas. However, if she were to ever die, despite reincarnating, "Kagra" would die and along her soul with it.


Kyoko (And other backstory):

short yellow, yet messy hair with bee antennae. Short with big eyes and a tiny smile. Wears baggy jeans, and a black shirt, and yellow vest.

The avatar of a god who helped forge and shape the lands. But because she's merely an avatar, people pray and respect to her name even though the reality is she's a helpless little girl that has yet to unlock her potential. Furthermore, without knowing her personally, one could not tell from appearance she possesses the seed of the deities.

An avatar is a remnant of the power left by the deities to govern their element and retain the image of the gods, but an avatar possesses powers only equal to that slightly more than the average human. As avatars, they cannot use their true potential in power since they only contain but a small seed of the deities' powers. But had something were to dig out their true power, they would be that of a beast.

For the gods deities of the elements to disappear from the world only to leave avatars who cannot do anything a normal human cannot and a single guardian who forgot her role, the military empire sought to oppose the imperfections of their world through top secret military experiments on these avatars, and obtain the powers of the deities for themselves.
Eventually, a drug had been developed by them to forcefully draw out their power and exploit them.
Using this drug, the military planned to manipulate the avatars to expand their empire and revolutionize the world. However, they were only able to capture but one of the avatars who was Kyoko.
Through their military testing, they learned more and more about the deities. They discovered that alone, the avatars are weak. But together with the others, they develop a power to destroy countries in a mere matter of minutes. But furthermore, that they bear the responsibility to moderate the elemental eggs in the world had something were to ever happen to the guardian over time.

However, the military continuously researched the deity. Learning about them, and the secrets of the world. Eventually, came "Project Yggdrasil"
They finally tested the drug on the avatar.
With a test subject at last, they found that the drug, although enhanced one very much physically, damages one horribly mentally.
Side effects include psychosis, hallucination, manic-depression, madness, insanity, and amnesia.


As research progressed, they finally let free Kyoko after she had been so damaged mentally and she was no use to them anymore. She escaped back to an old forest village where lied the shrine with the earth egg - What stood in the village time past, all that stood there in the blood shed was a lost little girl who wishes she was human.

Olias:
The young general in the Shiro military empire. With long, silky, black hair and cold, yet mellow eyes, he's actually a man of honor and great sacrifices who wears the scarf atop his black, leather coat from his friend - Jagen, who died in army combat alongside him when he was younger.
In the past, the Shro Military was an empire of great pride and fairness to those around them, who fought for the freedom of humanity and other related civilizations. At that point, at such a young age, Olias grew high in the ranks and eventually rose to position of general and became part of more covert affairs of the empire. However, as time went by, the military became corrupt and only more so as research delved into ancient history of the deities and elements. Under king Shiro's orders, Olias was forced to raid village and torture innocent in "the name of benefiting humanity".
Despite being ordered, he's actually more human than one would think and is usually hard on himself and guilty of his actions.
Outside of the military, he's somewhat of an oaf who lives the high life or drinking, gambling, and of course, women. He thinks all of the world's problems can be solved with a few glasses of beer. As opposites as his two sides may be, they relate in the fact that he has to find any possible ways to deal with his stress and pressure as general.


Shizu:
Your average green-haired city girl living in the sky kingdom of Valni.
With her long hair blowing in the wind like grass in a plains, she lives a life of freedom as free as the wind in the skies.
She and her culture despise war and live up secluded in the clouds of "World's End" - The giant wall separating the world.

However, life where she lives wasn't always free like it was in present day. In the distant past, generations ago, when her nation lived on the ground, her culture comprised of wind demons who formed civilization together, living peacefully with one and other in their community. However, these demons had their kingdom invaded and their homes wrecked by war. Survivors of the genocide fled to nearby human villages where they mixed with normal humans. As time went by, the demons were no more, as the results of mating resulted in the production of a creature with the guise of a human, and with demon blood. Or otherwise better known as a "half-demon".
The villages,being mixes of both demon and human, concluded that to avoid further war with humans due to their differences, they would need to seclude themselves to a place where they could live together in harmony and peace, where they would be judged by actions and not by the background of their family tree. Their only option was to scale World's End and start a civilizations there using the precious resources and magics found at the heights of the wall. From there, the trial would be too difficult for non-wind demons to traverse, preventing any further genocide of the wind demon culture.

Shizu herself didn't have a pleasant past either, as she's an orphan. Her mother died of illness, while her father - Jagen, went to war alongside the Shiro empire as an ally. But she hasn't heard of her father's status since she was a young child.
So in comparison to her fellow citizens of the Valni kingdom, she especially despises war for causing the absence of her father in her life. However, before her father left, he made two hand-knittened scarfs for both of them to keep as promise of their bond, and in hope he would return. Shizu waited for years straight at her home, missing out on childhood and friends, waiting for him to return home. However, Jagen did not return home. And as the years went by, the scarf's material deteriorated along with her hope, bringing fourth to her a hidden bitterness she kept within herself deep down inside after she finally returned to society.
In Valni - The kingdom of the secluded tolerance and freedom, floating above the world, one would usually expect happiness and peace amongst its citizens. However, while Shizu was happy, deep, deep down inside she had a growing bitter by the day.
What did that bitterness mean? Was it more complicated than a simple hatred or sadness? Was she just miserable how everyone was happy but her? Or was it something she still has yet to discover? In demon culture, there is a saying that when one seeks answers to questions, a soul-seeking journey will bring them closer to their inner selves.

Shizu was not bitter because others were happy. She was not bitter solely because her father died either. She was bitter because she was frustrated with herself and helpless.

Lukas:
A young teen living at the sea-shore village of Arcadia. Some call him a techno-geek. Others call him a magician of machines. But he just (proudly) calls himself a nerd with a love for mechanics. At the same time, he use to often be picked on for such a reason.
He lives at a dormitory near the shorelines of the village where he buries himself in his studies and his hobby of invention creation. As a result, he is often regarded at a "brainiac", usually attracting girls with his smarts. But at the same time, he is usually oblivious to when there are girls who show interest towards him, even when they cross over to the guy's hot springs at the dorm to flirt with him.
Sometimes however, his technology goes overboard, even attracting military attention. Particularly, his recent experiment documents have been confiscated by them because they are "Technology too dangerous for the public to use".
In actuality, the documents were classified information on the history of the elements, the 4 eggs, and how to use the true power of the elements.
Lukas was able to retain and keep secret from them one invention using the classified information however. The "man-portable mecha" - a body of armor that morphs along with the wearer into a mecha.
With a majority of his hard work and research simply confiscated without his consent, his curiosity on what they did not want him to know only grew greater.

Cyan (Togo):
Cyan at first appears to be an old wandering adventurer roaming the land. However, with his incredible wisdom and knowledge of lore around him, those acquainting him are always curious and suspicious of this enigmatic figure.
With a cloak on his body and tilted beret on his head, it does not take long until he reveals his true self as Togo to Shion after he digs to the bottom of the Shiro military and their plans when Shion is about to carry them through, but he talks some sense into her.
Togo was a great adventurer and historian living at Rosewood village. However, his incredible intelligence, skill, and philosophy was what led him to becoming the great adventurer he was, as he uncovered relics by relics, dominating ruins by ruins, and deciphering texts by texts. As a result, he gained much attention across the land, and especially government attention. Eventually, he worked together in co-operation with the Shiro military who shared with him a common belief on the importance of history. With the funding gained by having a military on his side for excavations, his discoveries multiplied by the number. However, as he discovered more and more on the truth of the world, the elements, and ancient civilizations, he noticed the Shiro empire growing more and more corrupted which was when he dropped out of his excavations and changed his identity to observe their actions and true intentions without him.







*Other characters yet to be fully developed*

Final Scenario idea/thoughts

Something I had in mind is to have Kagra to become consumed by her own awakened power and become her true, awakened form to that of the guardian, or otherwise the "time goddess" - The combined power of the deities, with the power to bend history itself.

Menlo, who had been affected by a space-time split in the split second he bumped into her as a child and had obtained a fragment of the time element is the only one able to oppose the time god. There for making it a conflict who had not only grew up together and adventurered together, but loved each other. And now Menlo must come to realization of what the "true" Kagra had always been like past the illusion of her human form.
But illusions themselves are part of life. Illusions are part of reality and outcomes.
Menlo opposes the goddess herself to fight back for not just the illusion, but the piece of reality that is Kagra - One who had been part of Menlo's life since he was a child, who had been part of Kagra's life since she was a child.

It was no coincidence that in the childhood phenomenon where the goddess had forgot her purpose, or Menlo had obtained the time element. Deep down in her subconscious, Kagra knows what she was truly like. And all she ever wanted was to escape the flesh of a god and live the illusion we all have that is the imperfect human life - The life of a growing tree that isn't too big, or too small.


After Menlo and Co. obtain the fourth egg, Shiro ambushes them and kidnaps Kagra. In exchange for the eggs, Shrio forms a deal that Menlo will bring the eggs to him at Nefaros- The shrine where the world began, in exchange for Kagra's life. But to Shiro, killing Kagra wont make a difference because her life loops in reincarnation.
Knowing he is walking into a trap, Menlo is obligated to bring the eggs. Shion, knowing Shiro best out of the group, instead forms a plan to rescue Kagra without handing over the eggs. The plan backfires and Shiro takes the eggs by force, knocking out Mhenlo and Co. He sets the eggs on the shrine's alters as he force feeds Kagra the drug that would bring out her true nature and awaken her. Shiro, at last, finally fulfills his goal of bringing upon the time goddess to the world, and combining power with it, with his next goals to liberate humanity and reboot the world right after the goddess generates enough power in her awakening.
Tree roots ascend from the ground, carrying the shrine to the top of a giant tree that is Kagra's shell to her true form.
Menlo and Co. awaken at a nearby village where they were carried to by their familiars to save them. With them was the manifestation of Kagra's soulless body whom they possessed and saved everyone with when Kagra's true form awakened and left her body.
In the distance, the giant tree that is the guardian and time goddess of the world. Menlo and Co. had been knocked out for days, but in those few days, the abandoned Shiro empire from their emperor took initiative to guard the perimeter around the tree, waiting to fight off an incoming attack from it.
Menlo and Co. analyze the situation at hand and make preparations for the upcoming battles. During the preparations, Menlo tries to take in what had just happened to Kagra. He is confronted by Cyan/Togo, who reveals the truth about the deities, the world, and the guardian time goddess with the information he found on excavations he had not told anyone and had been keeping secret up until then.

The deities were actually beings from another world, where arthropod-like creatures apparently ruled, where they utilized highly advanced nanotechnology and manipulation of atomic structure in science. The "magic" they had blessed the world with was also no more than nanotechnology. All humans and life are born with small than atom-sized nanotechnology that spreads and gives them the magic abilities they posses. Meanwhile, the 4 eggs are simply generators that keep the nanotechnology in check with various other uses, such as acting as keys to "reboot" Kagra when she loses her power.
The fact the deities pitied humans was true though. When they landed on the planet, they originally wanted to do so for educational purposes of their own race. However, when they found tortured life existed on the planet, their actions quickly changed.
With the best of their technology, they funded a project for a being who would save these humans. However, the being was so strong that outside of the deities' supervision, it could very easily destroy the world because it was too perfect and the rest of humanity was not. Essentially, they created a monster; One like that of a god even in comparison to their own race. So they implemented a function in the being that it would lose its true power over time, when they would eventually be dead of old age. However, the 4 eggs also acted as keys to "reboot her"; To restore her power. These eggs were sealed away from humanity and only Kagra would normally be able to access them in the worst case scenarios.
What gave Kagra the power she possesses so much was an egg of her own inside of her. The "time" egg - A generator inside her very soul that allowed her to release her power all in one big blow and recharge.
Deep down the guardian did have fragments left of humanity. However, it served as nothing more than a mere tool that allowed her to act natural amongst the rest of society, and even that fragment did not leave a big enough crack for an imperfection. Her humanity was an illusion to the rest of humanity.


After Menlo prepares himself mentally, him and his party raid Kagra.
Travelling far into the tree, where space itself was twisted, they finally find the core; The time egg.
However, even after destroying the egg, Kagra's functions still did not cease. He is after confronted by Shiro who explains that Kagra had already recharged enough power that it isn't even needed anymore. And that even if she is rescued from the room he is guarding, "Kagra" will not revert and her true self will just reveal itself more. Menlo denies it and he fights Shiro. Shiro is killed once and for all, and Menlo enters the room where he carries her sleeping body out of the tree dungeon that surrounds them.
At last peace is restored.. Yet something was wrong. Kagra still slept from the time she was rescued. Sleeping for days and days, as days went by, Menlo stood by her side. However, as time went by, weird phenomenons occurred. Night was during day, and day was during night. Until suddenly, a field around Kagura exploded, enveloping everything there was to be in sight.
Shiro was right. Kagra had enveloped, and destroyed the entire universe in a twist of space and time because she had already awakened; It was too late.
However, Menlo's soul was not destroyed. He was able to oppose time because he, himself possessed the time element and always had since Kagra gave him such a power when they were kids.
They confront and Menlo argues that though he was up against the "true" Kagra, the Kagra Menlo loved, whether or not she is an illusion, is fighting within him and she is trapped within the body of the monster before them both.
"Kagra" is defeated and she comes to realization that even her true self.. And the concept of creating a perfect universe.. Even the powers of a god.. Is an illusion...
She agrees to restore the universe back and sealing away the eggs in a way no one, even herself, would not be able to unleash upon again. But doing such an action would have the guardian use so much power, she will be dead. Menlo agrees with that deal even though the guardian will die from exhausting all her power because Menlo has a promise he wanted to fulfill with Kagra, even if she would not be present.
Time reversed to before Kagra envelopes the universe, and she melts away in front of Menlo's eyes...






Years later, knowing Kagra was dead, Menlo once again scaled world's end to keep his promise.








In front of him, at the summit, was Kagra.
"Thank you.. Menlo... You've kept your promise...."

Was the guardian really bad? Or was she just living her illusion of reality?
We all live in an illusion.
There is no pure answer.
There for, there is no perfect either.
All we can do is live an imperfect life and illusion.

As for the whereabouts of the guardian, her death was not because she tried to restore the yesterday.
She sacrificed herself... For Kagra.
She learned from Menlo what it meant to be human. What it meant to love, and what it means to be happy.
But most of all, that sometimes being imperfect is a good thing.
It was time to restore Kagra. It was time to go back.. To the happy imperfect life.
To the world where there is a tomorrow.


-Climax/Final Battle-
Scripted event where Kagra distorts the space time after her body is "saved" from inside the tree of Kagra:

*Menlo waking up in a distorted space-like realm in front of Kagra
Menlo: Where am I..!? W.. Where is everyone?

Kagra: The world.. No.. Everything has been absorbed into a wave of destruction. Even your body has been absorbed into it. Only the fragment you have stolen of my power and your soul exist here in physical-like form. The form you see of me is but a perception your soul simply creates.

Menlo: Who are you!? Shiro? Whoever you are, it is you who put Kagra through so much pain!

Kagra: The one you call Kagra is right in front of you. I am Kagra. The real Kagra. After I regain the last ounce of my power back from you, I will be able to recreate the universe. A perfect universe. Nothing can stop me now. So what brought you to consciousness to ask me, Menlo?

Menlo: I came to save Kagra. You've already destroyed the universe and liberated all impurities. So please.. Whoever you are... Give her back!

Kagra: Fuhuhuhu.. Quite a stubborn one, aren't you? I already told you. I am the real Kagra. And I plan to recreate the universe. The nanotechnology running through my veins aren't just nanobots, but they contains the universal structure of perfect existence itself such as like that when the universe was first created. Philosophers say the universe was originally made from a big bang. And what they say is true. However, what they say about the big bang was also incomplete. There was one error made that happened by chance, where the atomic structure mutated. The results was life. An imperfect, horrendous tragedy that has plagued everything the moment they were born. I want to recreate everything and "fix" the big bang so that its results are perfect!

Mhenlo: You want to create the universe with no life? Kagra.. Is that what you truly desire?

Kagra: I want to "fix" life. I am the guardian. I have love for all living things, and it is my responsibility to give everything the best possibility, bypassing limits. It doesn't matter what it is. Humans.. Monsters.. Demons.. Familiars... You bastards, your instinct is nothing more than kill or be killed. It doesn't matter who has power. One will always be dominating the other, creating genocide, causing sadness.. anguish.. hate... fear.. and despair.. Such a universe.. Full of violence.. Even torturing other beings and defiling their vital organs, ripping them out of one's body just to entertain a crowd. Such a life and their so called "happiness" is but an illusion. But you see, everything one could ever truly desire is exactly what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to grant the true intentions of Shiro's "Project Yggdrasil" and benefit all life! What attachment could one possibly have to a hostile, violent, imperfect world? Why do humans cling so much onto their "love"? The perfect "love" is all created right here from me!!

Menlo: Kagra... No... Guardian Goddess.. We, life, are slow and will never reach perfection. But we have also come a long way.. And I'm not going to let go of how far we've came trying to be peaceful beings either! We won't be perfect, but we will progress! We will come to understand each other, and we will try!

Kagra: Your words are the imperfect lies humanity has been giving each other for thousand of years. "Kagra", the one you "love" is but an image in your selfish imagination of greed and lust. Do you, for example, even understand her? Do you know anything about her? This "love" you have for her is selfish and disgusting! All you and the rest of humanity do in your "love" is seduce each other for one's own benefits and pleasures! Even giving up your life, is done for image for the other person. You humans live an illusion!

Menlo: But illusions are not always the illusions they seem either. They are a way of life; Of society. Shiro lived a life deceiving others and terrible actions. But as the illusion of an emperor over his nation, his people loved him and deeper down, he loved his people! That is why despite his intentions, he couldn't hurt anyone of his empire! And just like Shiro, other humans also live illusions of emotions and purpose. That is the purpose of life! That is why the big bang mutated! The imperfectness and illusions of it is also within the purpose of life! That was the will of the big band and of life!

Kagra: Will... Such a primitive thing. It is because of will.. Because humans.. planets.. and all of life.. have this will... It is because of this cursed will that everything is so imperfect and tragic! Just like the thing you called "market" and "trade", one must lose something in order for another to gain. It is because of that there is war. Obviously will has plagued the universe since it began! It is because of how imperfect we are, things are so dreaded! I can't stand to watch the resulting destruction brought upon yourselves.. It is because things are so imperfect, they must be liberated! That is not the will of me, but the will of the very life you're defending right now. Life loses to benefit other life! So the universe has to be destroyed to make way for a better universe!

Menlo: Well.. If we're not perfect.. If one loses and another gains.. We don't need to be perfect. Actually, that is exactly what has made us fragile humans so strong. When at error, you try to solve the problems. When one else is in need, we help the other. That's what life is about. We feel sadness, anger, hate, and greed... But we also feel happiness, sympathy, love, and hope!
We aren't perfect because we are capable more than that. Life becomes stronger as their imperfectness grows!
As the last life in the universe.. A shard that broke off from the time element.. An imperfect creature.. I'm not upset, but proud I was of life! I live an illusion of free will and happiness, and I'm imperfect. That makes me grow, and become stronger than anything perfect out there! It is because we are imperfect there is a tomorrow! Even you, yourself, aren't perfect!

Kagra: You dare bare your fangs at god? I'm made up of the perfect atomic structure! Why is it you cannot comprehend such things like being perfect? I'm not just a creation of those you call "deities", but I existed since the start! I am the manifestation of the perfect structures in the big bang! I am the big bang! All those "deities" did is bring the pieces of my being together!! I am perfect and so can I do so to the rest of the universe! Do you understand now?

Menlo: No... Because.. You aren't what you describe yourself to be. I know Kagra exists somewhere deep down inside you! You might not be Kagra on the outside.. But on the inside, is the fragment of imperfection! The illusion that fragment has.. We love each other. And I have the illusion that she is there with me, right now. And with that illusion, with our combined power of imperfection.. The need to help each other.. And the illusion behind our motives.. Human emotions.. That illusion has the power to defeat a perfect being! I'm going to save "Kagra"! Even if you are the real Kagra! That illusion exists within you! You've trapped her!!

Kagra: Fuhuhuhu... How can that be though? Kagra is a single being. And that being is me! The one you know is an illusion playing tricks on your mind. You only have a few minutes left to live after I am done retrieving my power completely... How one like you could have somehow obtained my power is quite an amazement, I'll give you credit for coming that far.


Menlo: I didn't take it.. Kagra lent me the powers for a reason... Kagra is an individual being!!!! And you can't be the true Kagra, for you are not the one I loved... The real Kagra is fighting alongside me! She is fighting alongside me even now!! You aren't Kagra.. And you certainly aren't a compassionate guard or goddess either.. You are a monster who had been imprisoning Kagra! And that is why I will defeat you and set her free! I don't care if she was an illusion... I loved Kagra!!!!!!

Kagra: Hmph.. Then prove it to me. Can an illusion and a little boy defeat a perfect being? The manifestation it was meant to be? Defeat me, a perfect being, a god, with your imperfect power. Show me what you truly feel for the illusion of your emotions. Defeat me and not only will I restore your world, but I will give back Kagra. Show me the power.. Of humanity.. And..... Of Kagra!!!

I don't know if this is the right section since this is for a GS hack. But please don't trash this thread..  Move it to a proper forum if it's in the wrong place for some reason.