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Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 06, June, 2009, 11:53:00 PM
Definitely seeing what I can and can't do.  Newbie that I am, I'm still trying to accomplish a certain goal, make the game harder to a point.

With that convoluted entrance out of the way...

DL Here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BMQUVC02) (Version 0.7)


(File contains an IPS Patch for Golden Sun 2, NOT a ROM <_<)

Let me know how it is.  For now, it's only updated until right after the Chestbeaters and getting Cannon.


Edit:
Current Version: Version 1.0R
Download Version 1.0R Here! (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HURBJ2I0)


Edit:
Current Version: Version 1.3P
Download Version 1.3P Here! (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MOOLG4M7)


Edit:
Current Version: Version 1.52P
Download Version 1.52P Here! (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y95N36MX)

This post has been edited by thenightsshadow on Jul 12 2009, 12:51 AM
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Rolina on 07, June, 2009, 12:34:00 AM
TNS, I'm ashamed... you posted a rom.  Locked, link removed... Warning applied.

Er... my bad.  Jumped the gun a bit...

Okay, warning y'all now... He's pretty mean with those Ruffians.  Or he was in the version I played.

Also, he kinda 'fudged it' so that Felix and Sheba have unique classes.  Patch away and give it a shot.  
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 07, June, 2009, 12:59:00 AM
In my next update, I'm going to have it done until the King Scorpion, and there'll be some more fun stuff with Djinn (if you haven't noticed them already).

This post has been edited by thenightsshadow on Jun 8 2009, 07:46 PM
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Atrius on 07, June, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
>_< It's been too long since I've actually played the games, maybe I need to do that again.

Also I should have known the Enemy editor doesn't work on the original Golden Sun quite yet.  That's what living under a rock where people yell at you a lot does to you I guess.
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Atrius on 07, June, 2009, 01:07:00 PM
So.... It's for the original Golden Sun?  That's kinda something you need to mention when you post a patch, if you apply it to the wrong game, it doesn't work so well.
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 07, June, 2009, 01:44:00 PM
Good point.  Though I would have thought Chestbeaters and the Djinni Cannon would trigger GS2 thoughts.
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Zach on 07, June, 2009, 06:07:00 PM
After seeing this, it makes me wanna show my patch for that i've been doing (really re-doing since the crash) for some reason o_O
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 08, June, 2009, 08:30:00 PM
Since nobody's really commented, here's Version 1.0.

DL Here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7UCCLHTE) (Version 1.0)

This one goes up to and including the Aqua Hydra fight on the Ship.
Please send all feedback to this thread.

Edit:
For those of you who already started the game, I recommend you restart to get Piers' level to the right level.

He'll be 19 if you have the wrong version, and 16 if you have the right version.  And for those attempting a perfect game, Level 16 Piers has 16,909 Exp.

(If you want to beat the Aqua Hydra, you're better off going back and getting Mud.  Having 21 Djinni was optimal in me beating the Hydra.

If you want an even greater challenge, beat him at the same level I was with the same amount of summons used: 1 Summon (Nereid), and Level 20 across the board.)


Edit 2:
Some more points of note.  I have not worked on this yet so for now, changing classes isn't allowed.  When you're without Piers, have all the Mercury Djinn on Sheba/Felix or have Jenna put them on Standby.  Only their base classes are allowed.


Upcoming Updates: Gaia Rock, the Serpent, Poseidon, and obtaining Grind.  Finally, a buff to both Mad Plant and Djinni variants.


This post has been edited by thenightsshadow on Jun 19 2009, 02:04 PM
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Salanewt on 18, June, 2009, 08:36:00 AM
Good luck, thenightshadow. I am actually working on something similar to this, but I am mainly focusing on the bosses... Anyway, please tell me when you get to Moapa, and good luck once more.

Have a nice day.
:MercurySet:  
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 18, June, 2009, 01:40:00 PM
Well, due to my problem with Briggs, I had to start over again from scratch.

I'll be doing a bit of testing in the mean time to hopefully get everything back on track soon, and the next post SHOULD be up to Poseidon.

In the mean time, this is the password that will be inputted in the .sav that you'll get in the final copy.  Enjoy.

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Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 19, June, 2009, 02:51:00 PM
Testing Updates:

Sulhalla Gate
- Jenna obtained Level 5
- Lost to Ruffian, Ruffian 2, Ruffian 3

Gateway Cave
- Lost to Punch Ant

Idejima
- Gained Felix and Sheba

Kandorean Temple
- Defeated Mimic #1 [207 HP]
- Felix, Jenna obtained Level 6
- Sheba obtained Level 6
- Defeated Boss #1 (Chestbeaters) [308 HP each]
- Obtained Lash Pebble
- Defeated Mercury Djinni (Fog)

Shrine of the Sea God
- Defeated Jupiter Djinni (Breath), 1 retry

Dekhan Plateau
- Felix obtained Level 7
- Jenna obtained Level 7
- Sheba obtained Level 7
- Defeated Mars Djinni (Cannon)

Indra Cavern
- Obtained Summon: Zagan

South Indra - Overworld
- Defeated Venus Djinni (Iron)

Madra Catacombs
- Obtained Tremor Bit

Yampi Desert
- Felix obtained Level 8
- Jenna, Sheba obtained Level 8
- Defeated Jupiter Djinni (Blitz)
- Defeated Boss #2 (King Scorpion) [1718 HP]
- Obtained Scoop Gem
- Felix, Jenna, Sheba obtained Level 9

West Osenia - Overworld
- Felix obtained Level 10
- Jenna, Sheba obtained Level 10

Air's Rock - Exterior
- Defeated Mimic #2 [609 HP]
- Felix obtained Level 11
- Jenna, Sheba obtained Level 11

Air's Rock - Interior
- Felix obtained Level 12
- Jenna, Sheba obtained Level 12
- Felix obtained Level 13
- Jenna obtained Level 13
- Sheba obtained Level 13
- Obtained Summon: Flora

Osenia Cavern
- Obtained Summon: Megaera

West Osenia - Overworld
- Defeated Mercury Djinni (Sour)

Yampi Desert
- Felix obtained Level 14

Alhafra
- Jenna obtained Level 14
- Sheba obtained Level 14
- Defeated Boss #3 (Briggs) [1555 HP] [488 HP]

Gondowan Cliffs
- Felix obtained Level 15
- Defeated Mars Djinni (Kindle)
- Jenna obtained Level 15

Mid-Eastern Gondowan - Overworld
- Sheba obtained Level 15
- Defeated Mercury Djinni (Chill), 1 retry

Kibombo Mountains
- Felix obtained Level 16
- Jenna obtained Level 16

Kibombo
- Gained Piers

Gabombo Statue
- Defeated Mimic #3 [1172 HP]
- Sheba obtained Level 16
- Felix obtained Level 17
- Defeated Venus Djinni (Steel)

Kibombo Mountains
- Jenna obtained Level 17
- Defeated Jupiter Djinni (Waft)
- Piers obtained Level 17
- Sheba obtained Level 17

Madra Catacombs
- Obtained Summon: Moloch

Outside Madra
- Felix obtained Level 18
- Defeated Bandit and Thief x2 [1286 HP] [593 HP]

Mid-Eastern Gondowan - Overworld
- Jenna obtained Level 18

Gabomba Catacombs
- Defeated Venus Djinni (Mud)
- Sheba obtained Level 18
- Piers obtained Level 18
- Felix obtained Level 19
- Defeated Mad Plant #1 [1844 HP]
- Jenna obtained Level 19

Lemurian Ship (Note: In order to get the Aqua Jellies to make puddles, you must NOT let them summon an ally.)
- Sheba obtained Level 19
- Felix obtained Level 20, Piers obtained Level 19
- Jenna obtained Level 20
(What the...I ran into Conch Shell 1+2.  Has anyone ever faced them before on the ship?)
- Defeated Boss #4 (Aqua Hydra) [6024 HP]

= End of Testing Session #1 = [Download this Variant here! (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HURBJ2I0)]

This post will be continued after each update, as I progress further and further.
And so you know, everything is doable.  Each boss from now on will require its own strategy, because something you did for one boss will not work on the next.

This post has been edited by thenightsshadow on Jun 19 2009, 01:53 PM
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 29, June, 2009, 04:44:00 PM
HM Hack, Version 1.3P (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MOOLG4M7)

Alright, this version is updated as of Poseidon~

I found out a few facts while I was battling Poseidon:

- Poseidon has two movesets.  It switches from the first to the second the moment you destroy the barrier.

- All enemies determine their moves WHEN their moves come, not before.  In other words, the numbers are chosen, but the moves aren't.  This is why you can have Poseidon Counter-Rush before everyone else moves, and then use Watery Grave during his second move (after the Trident hits him), even if Counter-Rush is not in his second moveset.

- HP Regen and PP Regen stay constant.  If you switch from one moveset to the next, HP Regen and PP Regen associated with that moveset will carry over.


Some other points of note:

- During a fight on the sea, an enemy kept multiplying so much there were six of them.  When they all took their respective turns, the battlefield tilted in such a way that only a fraction of Sheba's hair was left on the screen.  Technical glitch, I'd say.

- The RNG Patch makes it literally impossible to manipulate forging, which is a definite plus.

- Items seem to have a % chance of breaking rather than a set amount of turns.
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Salanewt on 30, June, 2009, 11:08:00 AM
Hm... I will have to try this out. I think you are doing a good job though.

Have a nice day.
:MercurySet:  
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 08, July, 2009, 09:29:00 PM
HM Hack, Version 1.52P (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y95N36MX)

New version IS available~

This version is up to Agatio and Karst.  Oh, and don't even think you have a chance.
You don't.

This is a sample battle against them of my file.

[code]Felix, Level 33
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 04, September, 2009, 05:59:00 PM
It's been a while since I last posted, so let me bring you up to speed:

- Okay, so I found a way to separate Isaac and Felix in terms of classes, as well as Ivan and Sheba.  That's been taking up much of my time.  In fact, it's one of the biggest updates, as every character will have their own series of classes.

I wanted to know what your opinions are in regards to their base stats, though.

Isaac: (Squire) [Lord]
110% HP [+80%]
80% PP [+40%]
120% ATK [+40%]
100% DEF [+40%]
110% AGL [+40%]
100% LCK

Garet: (Guard) [Hero]
120% HP [+80%]
90% PP [+40%]
100% ATK [+40%]
130% DEF [+40%]
80% AGL [+40%]
100% LCK

Ivan: (Wind Seer) [Sorcerer]
80% HP [+60%]
130% PP [+50%]
80% ATK [+40%]
90% DEF [+40%]
130% AGL [+50%]
110% LCK

Mia: (Water Seer) [Angel]
90% HP [+50%]
130% PP [+70%]
90% ATK [+40%]
100% DEF [+40%]
80% AGL [+40%]
130% LCK

Felix: (Recruit) [Commander]
130% HP [+80%]
90% PP [+40%]
110% ATK [+40%]
110% DEF [+40%]
80% AGL [+40%]
100% LCK

Jenna: (Flame User) [Justice]
100% HP [+60%]
120% PP [+50%]
100% ATK [+40%]
100% DEF [+40%]
110% AGL [+50%]
90% LCK

Sheba: (Mystic) [Psychic]
80% HP [+50%]
140% PP [+70%]
80% ATK [+40%]
100% DEF [+40%]
110% AGL [+40%]
110% LCK

Piers: (Mariner) [Admiral]
110% HP [+80%]
100% PP [+40%]
100% ATK [+40%]
100% DEF [+40%]
90% AGL [+40%]
120% LCK

This post has been edited by thenightsshadow on Sep 4 2009, 04:59 PM
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Aile~♥ on 04, September, 2009, 07:08:00 PM
How? How did you do it? Personally, I have an idea:

Sheba = Wind Seer [Sorcerer]
Ivan = Thunder Mage [Thunder Wizard]

Ivan should have higher Attack and HP, and Sheba should have higher PP and Luck.
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: weckar on 04, September, 2009, 08:19:00 PM
The Balance with Felix/Isaac (my mind said Steven there) is good, though Ivan/Sheba... Sheba seems to overpower Ivan....
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Aile~♥ on 04, September, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too.

If I were to make a hack of Golden Sun TLA with balanced classes, all base classes [Squire, Flame User, Guard, etc.) would have a total stat modifier add-up of +20%.

e.g.

Thunder Mage (Ivan):
HP: +0%
PP: +10%
Attack: +30%
Defence: -20%
Agility: +20%
Luck: -20%

Guard:
HP: +30%
PP: -20%
Attack: +20%
Defence: +30%
Agility: -30%
Luck: -10%

Wind Seer:
HP: -10%
PP: +30%
Attack: -10%
Defence: -20%
Agility: +10%
Luck: +20%

Gaia Mage (Felix):
HP: +10%
PP: +20%
Attack: -10%
Defence: +20%
Agility: -10%
Luck: -10%

This post has been edited by JamietheFlameUser on Sep 6 2009, 01:38 PM
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Zach on 04, September, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
I wonder how you did it.....
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Aile~♥ on 06, September, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
So, did you post this one with nice new classes?
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 06, September, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
I'm not sure what you mean, but Garet's stats have been there since that post.

To show: (Parenthetical percentiles mean positive change from the previous Garet.)

Garet: (Guard)
120% HP (+10%)
90% PP (+10%)
100% ATK
130% DEF (+20%)
80% AGL (+10%)
100% LCK

Garet: (Soldier)
140% HP (+10%)
100% PP (+10%)
110% ATK
140% DEF (+20%)
90% AGL (+10%)
100% LCK

Garet: (Warrior)
160% HP (+10%)
110% PP (+10%)
120% ATK
150% DEF (+20%)
100% AGL (+10%)
100% LCK

Garet: (Champion)
180% HP (+10%)
120% PP (+10%)
130% ATK
160% DEF (+20%)
110% AGL (+10%)
100% LCK

Garet: (Hero)
200% HP (+10%)
130% PP (+10%)
140% ATK
170% DEF (+20%)
120% AGL (+10%)
100% LCK
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: Aile~♥ on 06, September, 2009, 11:06:00 PM
No, I meant posted the next update of the hack, with all of these nice classes.
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 07, September, 2009, 01:23:00 AM
Quote from: weckar on 04, September, 2009, 08:19:00 PMThe Balance with Felix/Isaac (my mind said Steven there) is good, though Ivan/Sheba... Sheba seems to overpower Ivan....
How so?  Everyone's 620%, and Ivan and Sheba's LCK are the same, so the important stats are still there.

Ivan (Sorcerer)
140% HP
180% PP
120% ATK
130% DEF
180% AGL
110% LCK

Sheba (Psychic)
130% HP
210% PP
120% ATK
140% DEF
150% AGL
110% LCK

Ivan has better AGL (30%) and HP (10%), while Sheba has better PP (30%) and DEF (10%).

Edit:
Oh yeah, how does Garet's buffed stats look?  Is he still useless, or not anymore?

This post has been edited by thenightsshadow on Sep 6 2009, 12:23 PM
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 07, September, 2009, 03:14:00 AM
Oh.  I posted earlier that because this is the next update, it's going to be a while.  To be honest, I don't think I can have it ready before October 1.  That's what I mean by difficult.
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: weckar on 07, September, 2009, 07:58:00 AM
while it's true that Sheba has lesser Agility than Ivan, her Agility still outranks most other things, so it doesn't matter much.
Title: Hm Hack
Post by: thenightsshadow on 07, September, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
I wouldn't be so sure of that.  Sheba was still slower than a couple enemy groups in the game, and when she WAS faster, she was the only one, making the enemy groups get their attacks in.

And that was when she had 180% AGL.