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Golden Sun Resources => The Classic GS Editor => Topic started by: MaxiPower on 11, October, 2008, 04:06:00 PM

Title: ? - Cookie
Post by: MaxiPower on 11, October, 2008, 04:06:00 PM
Quote-Atrius
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I have no idea, you get a cookie if you can tell me what it does if anything

concerning the ??? when editing a weapon I beleive that it is for items that are given to people during the game.. for example the laughing fungus or the dancing idol. i checked a few more items and they are have this box ticked whereas others don't

do i get a cookie
Title: ? - Cookie
Post by: Atrius on 11, October, 2008, 05:00:00 PM
Hmm... The Large Bread (Item 457) that you give to the hungry child doesn't have it checked, and the Signal Whistle (#450) which you technically can't get at all does though.  I suppose that's worth looking into though, I'll check it out.
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Post by: weckar on 20, October, 2008, 11:29:00 AM
You don't actually give away the Laughing fungus. I think there's more to it than that.
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Post by: Rolina on 27, October, 2008, 06:21:00 AM
...Hmm, can someone provide a list of them?  I know the elemental stars and mythril bags seem to share one of the ???s.

So then, for each of the ???s, we need a list of all the items that have them... A list for each of the three ??? options...  I'm sure we could figure SOMETHING out...
Title: ? - Cookie
Post by: MaxiPower on 27, October, 2008, 07:49:00 AM
Quote from: Role on 27, October, 2008, 06:21:00 AM...Hmm, can someone provide a list of them?  I know the elemental stars and mythril bags seem to share one of the ???s.

So then, for each of the ???s, we need a list of all the items that have them... A list for each of the three ??? options...  I'm sure we could figure SOMETHING out...
i,ll get on to that now

Edit: hmm i thought there would be more. i didnt come across any with the other ???

Question Mark 1

220 Venus Star
221 Mercury Star
222 Mythril Bag
223 Mythril Bag
224 Mythril Bag
245 Mythril Bag
246 Jupitar Star
247 Mars Star
448 Healing Fungus
449 Laughing Fungus
450 Signal Wistle
451 Dancing Idol
452 Pretty Stone
453 Red Cloth
454 Milk
455 Li'l turtle
Title: ? - Cookie
Post by: weckar on 27, October, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
those seem to be all items that can't be used nor equiped...
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Post by: Matrim on 27, October, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
Could they be the non droppable or quest items?
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Post by: Atrius on 27, October, 2008, 12:03:00 PM
The flag for those is "An Important Item" jdmj90.
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Post by: weckar on 27, October, 2008, 02:18:00 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm right now.

I do wonder why the mercury and venus stars even appear in this game?
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Post by: MaxiPower on 27, October, 2008, 04:02:00 PM
Quote from: weckar on 27, October, 2008, 02:18:00 PMI'm pretty sure I'm right now.

I do wonder why the mercury and venus stars even appear in this game?
perhaps they wanted them in there so someone could find it and you know... make some kickass games  
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Post by: Rolina on 27, October, 2008, 11:29:00 PM
They show up because they were in the first game.  All the stuff from the first game is still here in TLA.

The elemental stars can be equipped by Isaac and Felix.  They don't do anything though.  It'd make sense if they added Elemental Power and Resistance, but... they don't.

Perhaps they're Quest Items?
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Post by: Atrius on 27, October, 2008, 11:33:00 PM
I thought maybe it might be so the game knows to let you select the 'use' option on them when the time comes, but then Large Bread would have that flag checked too...
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Post by: weckar on 28, October, 2008, 02:20:00 AM
well, actually, none of the listed items ever get a use option. they are used or given without player selection.
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Post by: Rolina on 03, November, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
That may be it.  Items that are automatically removed at certain points.  Probably a comment flag for the developers, though, since the game would be coded to take out those specific items at those events.
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Post by: Atrius on 04, November, 2008, 10:02:00 AM
That's what I'm starting to think, Role.
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Post by: weckar on 04, November, 2008, 01:14:00 PM
can anyone confirm that those events remain the same without those flags?
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Post by: Menaus on 22, June, 2010, 03:41:25 AM
All of these items except 1 have to do with either the main quest or the trading sequence.
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Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 15, August, 2010, 08:49:06 PM
(http://i33.tinypic.com/23j3dya.png)

Well, I thought it was likely that it could be a flag to avoid using them somewhere (/losing them in an event where you won't be able to finish trading seqence/etc.)... I already checked trial roads though, but they only allow you to use weapons and stuff...

These are just "?" and "Items".

Also, rare items that are dropped appear in shop artifacts, and signal whistle is 0 coins... hmm...


Seeing that you can't technically get Signal Whistle makes me think about battles... hmm...








EDIT: These are items you cannot transfer with the Gold Password. (If you attempted to, they'd simply be removed.) Topic Closed!