Well, Atrius set this up about 2 weeks ago, and I've decided to make it public.
We may be moving in a little bit, depending on your opinion of the move. You see, the new GSHC, located here (http://goldensunhacking.omgforum.net/forum.htm), has a lot more features than the current forums, and is a lot easier to customize as well. Unfortunately, since we cannot transfer post count, we will be unable to keep your current ranks, and the current forums will be shut down and kept as an archive.
However, for those with over 250 posts here, I'll nominate you as veterans there, and the moderating team will remain. Also, for those who were members here, you will only need to reach a 250 post cap in order to reach veteran.
I'll keep the link up for a little bit so you can mess around with it and get used to the forums. Post your thoughts here, and whether or not you wouldn't mind the move.
Well, it seems nice, but there are a few reasons why it is not my favourite idea.
1: I would lose my post count.
2: Not everyone would move (chances are), so I would have to flip back and forth to see everything.
3: The interface of that website looks more confusing. However, I suppose the Invisionfree board would look similar if Javascript is used.
Have a nice day.
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I will definitely join this new one if the following people join as well:
charleysdrpepper,
JamietheFlameUser,
zach.
If one out of three of them do not join, then I will wait as well (or when these forums are closed).
Edit: Actually...
This post has been edited by Salanewt on Oct 1 2009, 08:41 PM
If we decided to move, these forums would set so they can only be viewed, and not posted on so things don't get confusing with 2 GSHCs.
I'm currently seeing if I can configure it in a way that's easy to use but not too different from what they have here. I enabled WYSIWYG, so you can edit your posts similar to a word document. Of course, if you want to fix your tags, you can change it back to the tagged format we use here.
The post count is a bit of a problem, however. I'll see if I can change your base post count to match that of here.
Although I'm not to fond of moving to a place that looks exactly the same (excluding the removal of the adds) I'm willing to move
Well, don't worry, I already joined the new location. WHen I typed my previous post, I did not read all of Charon's (I thought I did, but I did not).
Anyway, I would rather not move, but I will if I must. If you can implement our post counts, then that will change my opinion about moving almost entirely.
Have a nice day.
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You have an Agatio emoticon over there, yet none of the usable characters?
Quote from: Salanewt on 01, October, 2009, 10:13:00 PMWell, don't worry, I already joined the new location. WHen I typed my previous post, I did not read all of Charon's (I thought I did, but I did not).
Anyway, I would rather not move, but I will if I must. If you can implement our post counts, then that will change my opinion about moving almost entirely.
Have a nice day.
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You have an Agatio emoticon over there, yet none of the usable characters?
We're working on adding a lot of emoticons as well. We have a huge selection of regular emoticons for the time being.
There's a lot more things we can do with posting in general, like Flash, youtube and other things (we might disable flash for security reasons though). We are also going to try out things like Reputation, which is the little +/- thing on the right side of your post. Push the + to raise it for good posts, push the - to lower it for bad posts.
Very nice. However, what type of post would one classify as "bad"?
Have a nice day.
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Depends on who's reading it.
That is true. I suppose (if a post is good or bad) that it depends on the person rating it, and rarely on the post itself.
Have a nice day.
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Quote from: Charon on 01, October, 2009, 07:02:00 PMWell, Atrius set this up about 2 weeks ago, and I've decided to make it public.
We may be moving in a little bit, depending on your opinion of the move. You see, the new GSHC, located here (http://goldensunhacking.omgforum.net/forum.htm), has a lot more features than the current forums, and is a lot easier to customize as well. Unfortunately, since we cannot transfer post count, we will be unable to keep your current ranks, and the current forums will be shut down and kept as an archive.
However, for those with over 250 posts here, I'll nominate you as veterans there, and the moderating team will remain. Also, for those who were members here, you will only need to reach a 250 post cap in order to reach veteran.
I'll keep the link up for a little bit so you can mess around with it and get used to the forums. Post your thoughts here, and whether or not you wouldn't mind the move.
Umm... Charon? "Your link is broken!" (Lord of the Rings reference.) On top of that, would it be possible to transfer almost all of the topics? I don't want to lose some of the VERY useful topics we have here.
Hm... The link is not broken for me. Anyway, I can try giving you a different link to go there if you want.
Also, I forgot to mention in my first post, but one of my reasons for having minor doubts about the move is based on the question "can we move some of these topic?". If post count can be implemented at the new location, then I suppose that all we need to do is to copy and paste the more important topics there, but still.
Have a nice day.
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Oh yeah, I have a link to the new page here.
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Lighthouse_of_Y...hp?showtopic=33 (http://z3.invisionfree.com/Lighthouse_of_Yoshi/index.php?showtopic=33)
Classic is this website, 2 is the new one. If you are still having problems, then it might not be the link, but instead the compatability of the website with your computer.
It's not that it can't open the page, it simply cannot find the server. Which is odd, given that I can reach the omgforum.net's main page without difficulty. Would you please send me a link to a different omgforum.net forum to see if it happens with all of them?
I'm willing to move, but the sidebar really has to go. Or can I turn it off myself?
Ok, I've tried THREE different web browsers so far, and they all say that they cannot find the server, or that the server doesn't exist.
@weckar: Yes, I think the sidebar looked tacky where it is at right now, I would perfer it to be at the bottom of the screen, but I am not 100% familar with omgforums.
@JamietheFlameUser: If that is the case, maybe the browser is not the problem? But I am sorry that I do not know te answer to your problem.
No, my browser isn't the problem. It's the webpage that's the problem. The only browser I can manage to run it in is Internet Explorer. I'm not going to go out of my way to get the newest version of a web browser that I wouldn't use for anything else, and the version of IE that I have is version 5. My vote sits on a firm NO, unless you find somewhere that supports Macs. It's bad enough that I cannot use the editor. Then again, if I get a windows computer so I can use the editor, I'd be able to use the website too.
I bet its the fonky modules that the mac or the browser can't seem to swallow down... it can't be "just the site" if it works with other users...
Update your browser, and if that doesn't work... pitch the mac and get a linux we'll look into a way to make it easier for you to navigate... however, it seems like it's the mac itself (seeing that you've used several web browsers), but why it would be causing you issues like this is still a bit of a mystery...
Weckar - I experimented with the sidebar, and I'm not fond of it myself, so I pitched it.
I've tried 3 different browsers. The thing just doesn't seem to like Macs. It's strange, though: It didn't say anything normal, just that it cannot find the server. I'll go check my preferences. Does the page use Java by any chance? That shouldn't cause problems, but it just might, since I had Java turned off. Considering Firefox is a Linux program, I'm surprised that they didn't just adapt it slightly to be Mac-compatible. If they'd done that, then it probably would work with that site.
Edit: And I have the newest version of Safari that my (ancient (as in like 8 years old)) Mac can use.
This post has been edited by JamietheFlameUser on Oct 2 2009, 06:06 PM
It sounds like its your computer. If it can't handle the newer versions of Mac's internet browser, it might be time to get another computer. Either that, or do a lot of reconfiguring of your current compy... o.o
It doesn't work on my mom's compy either, and hers has the newest version of the Mac browser.
Mac incompatible website? That doesn't even make sense. "Cannot find server" is not an error you should get if your browser is incompatible with a website, which would be kinda ridiculous to begin with. It may be incompatible with some specific commands in the sites code, but the whole website?
It does use Java.
His computer's an old one and can't handle new browsers, apparently... if that's the case, just get a netbook or something o.O
Although I still fail to see how that would cause the whole site to not work... and how is it that you have an account there anyhow if it doesn't work? Is it the whole site or just certain pages?
I would think certain pages if he managed to register.
Have a nice day.
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Ah, well, good luck in the future being able to post. However, I think there is a program that lets you run things like Windows and stuff in a small window... What was that program again?
Have a nice day.
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I managed to register using Internet Explorer 5, which is the only version of IE that I have. However, IE will not post to the website.
This post has been edited by JamietheFlameUser on Oct 3 2009, 12:27 AM
The biggest reason as to why I'm against the move is that we'll lose EVERYTHING we've talked about and discussed.
EVERYTHING.
The second biggest reason? There's no reason to do it, period. This board works perfectly fine, after all. It just seems pointless.
we won't lose it, it will be archived.
Well, while both sites can serve the same purpose, the move does have its advantages and disadvantages.
Reason's for the move:
1. We can start off fresh with a new forum
2. We get a clean slate on Members and they have a choice whether to go register again or not (maybe they don't come back anymore?)
3. We getsome nice features like Reputation.
4. I suggested it once, as an example for ad-free forums. (And apparently, he went along with my example, although there may be other forums that also do not have ads.)
...and many more.
Reason's to not move:
1. We will miss invisionfree.
2. omgforums does not quite work as it should with macs? Doesn't work with Mac OS X, but does work with Mac OS 9.
If we would have lost everything, then I too would have been against this, but since it's saved as archive, I am not against this.
This post has been edited by charleysdrpepper on Oct 3 2009, 06:33 PM
My dad managed to get it to work. There's some problem with our router, but dad got it fixed.
Apparently, it works in Mac OS 9, but not in Mac OS X, and it wasn't Internet Explorer at all!
Anyway, it's fixed now.
Oh, that is good. Thanks for the valuable information I will update the list now.
Hm... Even if it is saved as an archive, some of the topics should be copied over, so they can be continued.
Have a nice day.
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We can't copy entire topics :p
True, but there is always the right mouse button, and copy+paste.
Have a nice day.
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Or you could just make a new topic and pu a link to the original topic, wih something like (continued) in the title, and go from there. (The easy way, I do in fact think people would rather read from the source anyway.)
That's actually a pretty good idea, although it might be best to implement it once we finally seal this place up as an archive.
Well, other than proving that PCs are VASTLY SUPERIOR to Macs, I don't see any other reason to move... I mean, it's not like the ads are all that bad, anyways...
I mean, as they say: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
This post has been edited by Role on Oct 4 2009, 04:30 AM
Unless it has something you like on it that this place doesn't have, I don't think I can change your mind.
You can't always live with the same things you've grown up with, you know.
I believe you're underestimating the customization level of the new forums. Here we only have access to stylesheet information to change the appearance of the forums, over there we have access to edit the HTML files of the forums. Among many other possibilities, there's potential there to create a GSHC website that's integrated seamlessly with the forums.
I seriously doubt that Jamie's problems are because of his operating system. I've heard that the forum's host has been undergoing maintenance recently, and the boards have been down for some people, but not others. It could also have something to do with DNS settings, he could try using Open DNS (http://www.opendns.com/), and seeing if that changes anything.
It was because of my operating system, and also because of my router, and because of the website itself. Mostly, just a bunch of problems with the website sending back more info then it should have.
Quote from: Role on 04, October, 2009, 05:29:00 AMWell, other than proving that PCs are VASTLY SUPERIOR to Macs, I don't see any other reason to move... I mean, it's not like the ads are all that bad, anyways...
LINARX IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THEIR MEANINGLESS WINDARZ COUNTARPARTS *throws penguins*
The fact that the operating system can't handle it still irks me a little. It just doesn't make any sense. If it were a really old computer, that would make a bit more sense due to very low RAM capacities... which would make it difficult to run newer programs, but STILL :P
Is the move really needed? haha im never gonna reach veteran at this stage.
I'm telling you that it has nothing to do with RAM! It was a combination of problems involving IP addresses, the website, my D-Link router which was being stupid, and the operating system not coping well with all those previous problems.
I just find the whole thing bizarre... it's not that I don't believe you, Jamie.
Mind if I note that I've never seen any ads here?
What did you do? Disable plug-ins?
Don't know, may be a region thing
You must use an Ad Blocker.
Yeah, I would like one of those... Oh well.
Anyway, a question about GSHC 2, is there an easy to use alternative to "My Assistant" of Invisionfree? I have been searching, but I have not had any luck.
Have a nice day.
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From the main categories view there are three links toward the top right:
"View posts since last visit
View your posts
View unanswered posts"
These are also accessible in topics from the "Actions !" link.
Or were you looking for something else?
Okay, thanks. That is exactly what I was searching for.
Now start working on my book...
Have a nice day.
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@ Charon: I'll see your penguins, and return to you prinnies! *Throws prinnies back at Charon*
Anywho, unless y'all can do something to wow me, then I really don't see a point. From what I've seen of it, it really doesn't seem all that much different than what we have now.
The biggest problem, though, is that we'd lose EVERYTHING that happened here. Unless someone can do something to archive it, then I'm gonna have to stand against it for the time being. Of course, if you can find a way to archive and transfer, then I really wouldn't mind. But it's the discussions that have happened and that NEED TO BE PRESERVED that I don't want to lose, not invisionfree. After all, many a good point has been made. I want to be able to look up and reference those points without having to jump between an active and dead site all the time...
...but... we won't lose them. They'll be kept as an archive, so people can check them if they want to.
But WHERE? On the new site? Or will we have to jump back to the old site?
I think think they are going to be kept here, which is kind of unfortunate (but better than having them deleted on us, right?).
Have a nice day.
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If it's going to be kept here, then I'm against it. Having a dead forum acting as an archive, as I said, is NOT something I want.
Makes sense.
Oh yeah, I am having some minor problems with the new forum. After about 20 or 30 minutes of being on, it cuts the connection on me, yet none of the other websites have a lost connection.
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We won't be able to transfer it directly, but we can have a link leading to this place as a separate "forum".
The reason why you may be disconnecting could be the fact that you are being logged out after time. Dunno for certain however...
Okay, thanks for telling me. However, it is strange, considering I am not doing anything that is member's only when the connection gets cut. In fact, it only seems to happen when I try to view a different page of a topic (only sometimes).
Have a nice day.
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The host has been doing maintenance on their servers again today, it could be related to that.
I doubt it, since I think this was also happening to me once or twice last week (unless that is when you started working more on it).
Have a nice day.
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Oh well, it isn't a major problem, since it only happens once in a while.
Erm, Also, the idea about linking back to the old forums, well, I'd also recommend putting quotes to show the most important info (summary) to keep everyone from having to go to a dead forum unless everone is looking for specific information.
This idea, is going to have me making some topics at the NEW GSHC.
Not to mention, the summary thing is a nice organizing method.
This post has been edited by charleysdrpepper on Oct 12 2009, 02:27 PM
I feel I must mention... At times, I've been having a hard time posting or even LOADING the new forum. I've tried three browsers so far - Firefox, Google Chrome, and even that piece of junk, IE. Yet, all three are having the same issues. It REALLY pissed me off when I was doing the first of the GSDG topics I was porting over, because of how much I had worked on, only to have it screw up on me, forcing me to start over (something that I've NEVER had an issue with while using Google Chrome, as it saves the forms I fill out in case problems happen when you try to post. However, when I clicked back, it seems that the OMGForums did not like just going back to the previous page in un-altered format, and made me start over...). Needless to say, I've had to Copy my whole posts just in case, but only with that forum...
Interesting. Sure it's... not your operating system?... heheeheheh, just kidding.
I've been able to get to the site fine every time I tried going there. I'm using Firefox 3 in Ubuntu 9.04, so maybe it's your settings... I don't know why you'd have trouble loading the pages...
The site is, however, exceptionally annoying with it's "press enter and go to the main page" habit with quick reply, but it's not that big of a deal... OMGForums refreshes everything as the page loads, it seems. Dunno if that can be fixed or not.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I have been having some problems with the new forums as well. They are not much, but there has been at least two or three times that my entore post was deleted because I "logged out".
Have a nice day.
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