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Another debate for the Mario Hack!  What characters to use, and how many.

My idea?  New Super Mario Bros Wii's characters:  Mario, Luigi, Blue Toad, Yellow Toad.
Then Sala suggested we change that, since everyone hates having two toads.  So I changed it to include two well known characters from the original mario RPG:

Mario, Luigi, Mallow, Geno

Then people said:  What about the other team?
I was all:  We don't need another team.

Suggestions have been: Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, Toad, Daisy, etc..., clearly ignoring what I said about the characters thing.  Oh well.

Anywho, here, we need to decide BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE:  4 or 8?  I made a poll, USE IT.  Don't suggest characters yet, not until we come up with the PC amount.

I would have voted for four characters, but I decided that having 8 characters would allow the plot to be mixed sometimes, as well as show that the characters have more of a personality than is normally portrayed in one RPG. It would be even better if we could alter the script, so when we get a fifth party member, we have two teams, and a new part member is added to the team with fewer members (but can still be mixed around). This way, none of them have to join in pairs or groups.

Have a nice day.

The reason leaf said not to use Geno and Mallow is because leaf didn't want to use "one-off characters". Which is why I suggest we make our own "one-off" characters, specifically for this hack.

Quote from: JamietheFlameUser on 23, February, 2010, 03:11:32 PM
The reason leaf said not to use Geno and Mallow is because leaf didn't want to use "one-off characters". Which is why I suggest we make our own "one-off" characters, specifically for this hack.

And this is something I can completely agree with. Mario RPGs have a tradition of mixing old with new, but they rarely bring back characters that haven't been established as recurring in the main series. M&L bringing back fawful for bowser's inside story is actually the first time a mario RPG has ever brought back a character that was introduced for one specific story.

I'm not voting yet. I'd rather we try to come up with the most compelling teams possible for either scenario, and then vote between them.

Don't know for most of the party, but here's a few ideas:

Mario: Fire, Luigi: Jump, Donkey Kong: Fire (now we have both our Fire type characters)

Remaining types necessary are: 1 Jump, 2 Shock, 2 Ice.

You don't need to fill all 8 slots either, the game allows 5, 6, or 7 just fine as well.

Yeah... I was thinking about that, actually. What if we went over 4 characters, but not all the way up to 8? It'd just be like SMRPG where you have to cut out a couple characters from your main party after a certain point, without actually having multiple parties.

That is true. Battle-wise though, it might seem odd or a bit unfair of both parts of the team can not have the same amount of members in each, unless... New idea:

I shall post it in the topic.

Have a nice day.

Oh, Leaf? I just had a similar idea, which I will post in that hack topic.

Hey, I wanted Blue Toad and Yellow Toad, not Geno and Mallow.  I just brought them up because the idea got shot down.

The big problem is:  It's hard as heck to come up with a Mario team.  I don't want to be restricted to just the Mario RPGs, either.  I personally find 4 as the best number, since it makes it easier to work with... but so far it's going for 8...

Quote from: Role on 24, February, 2010, 12:48:50 AM
I personally find 4 as the best number, since it makes it easier to work with... but so far it's going for 8...

This. A story with a maxed-out poarty of 8 would be overly complicated, and I can't see most of those characters getting enough... I forget the word...

Whatever, just look at Mia or Piers, very shallow characters, and look at Ivan- very serendipitous meeting..

And having an amount between 4 and 8 would just look ugly >_>

EDIT: Backstory.

Oh, Role? Did you read one of my posts in the Mario Sun topic of yours (you too Insularity)? I came up with an idea for how we could have less than 8 party members, yet it would be possible to have more than four (in fact, with this idea, it would be better to have more than four for this).

http://forum.goldensunhacking.net/index.php?topic=522.msg10880#msg10880

I modified my idea for the experience rewards, so you might want to take a look at the reply after Leafgreen's reply.

Oh, and I also thought of something else... Characters should not solely be one element, but instead mixed.

Have a nice day.

Well, we have backstory for DK easily enough. Bowser's minions stole a massive cartful of bananas, and now DK wants them back!

However, I think 8 party members may be a bit much, 6 or 7 would be easier to handle.

Quote from: JamietheFlameUser on 24, February, 2010, 12:15:16 PM
Well, we have backstory for DK easily enough. Bowser's minions stole a massive cartful of bananas, and now DK wants them back!

However, I think 8 party members may be a bit much, 6 or 7 would be easier to handle.

Seems good, but this topic is more or less deciding how many characters there should be, and why.

Have a nice day.

I'd be inclined to suggest a British Bob-omb, but we've already got one of those (In Paper Mario 2). Bob-ombs are just so awesome when they're British, though.

"Jolly good show, eh!"

"Let's get h'out h'of 'ere posthaste!" /lol British

A general rule for the stereotype British accent: If a word starts with a vowel, add an H. If a word starts with an H that has a vowel after it, remove the H, and replace with an apostrophe. Also, add either eh or Wot Wot to the end of almost every sentence.

I've added a third option.  Please redo your votes.