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I am not sure about his gender.

Thats a rather bold statement, looks mean nothing and no voice means no way of knowing cant be judged that way also (not saying they are connected but you know you :).

Um... He has been mentioned as a boy several times throughout the games (one which is easy to remember is in Contigo, when someone mentioned that "he has a sister").

As for his... Orientation. I am pretty sure that (despite all of these "shipping" types coming out) he is straight.

Have a nice day.

oh lol male or female, 100% Boy

Lol. Good question. I think he's straight, but it's fun to pretend he's gay so I can make fun of him, I guess.

Anyone else notice that Sheba looks more manly than he does? Just a bit? XD

I thought there would of been a connectio between the two, like bro and sis, it would of been intresting if it gave the roots of Ivans people also...

my god im so psyced for GS3, the endless possiblitys of spilling the beans on stuff we have been wondering for years

Well, I guess in the way the rules of plot and games go, everything has to be connected, so I can see where you would think that. I would rather have it so that there was no real connection, because people can overdue it.

I can't wait for GS3 either! I'm so effing pumped for it! Somehow, my friends dont know about GS, so they think I'n insane, because it's all I talk about.

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:Ivan:

Ah, I don't think so...


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Karis is Ivan's daughter.

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^ End of discussion.

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He's male, but since it's confirmed that he was the father of Karis, he's not gay, just as Role pointed out. That still leaves him being open him up to being bisexual however.

Quote from: Charon the Ferryman on 30, October, 2010, 08:21:15 PM
He's male, but since it's confirmed that he was the father of Karis, he's not gay, just as Role pointed out. That still leaves him being open him up to being bisexual however.

There are gays that are in denial and marry women and have children with them.

... like republicans.

Something tells me that Ivan would be a bit more liberal than those people though, and probably more humanitarian.

So I vote for either straight, or in denial.

Have a nice day.

Edit: Then again, one does not have to marry to have kids. Bachelor parents anyone?

Is Mia the mother of Karis?

Maybe, but they only ever say that she is the mother of Rief and Norne(?), Ivan is Karis' father.

Nowell, not Norne.

That'd sure make Mia a busy gal. Maybe she got a divorce?

Aye, and then Ivan had an affair with Jenna and BAM, Karis....

It would make sense, since Jenna and Ivan are supposedly living in Kalay with the other Vale survivors. However, that would make Matthew and Karis siblings.

Yes, it'd make them half-brother and half-sister.  But they don't know it, since Jenna was the 'secret lovechild'.  Since Isaac is away for what seems like years at a time...

Did I detect vague hints that Karis is the result of a threesome between Ivan, Jenna, and Mia?

ITT:  The girls of golden sun take out their... 'frustrations' on little Ivan.  He winds up being the father of half the cast, and is henceforth to be known as "The Unwilling Stud of Weyard".

Perfect candidate for such a title too. We still have to find out if Felix or Sheba have kids though. Of course, if Ivan has psychoactive powers like Mind Read, one could turn around and say that he accidentally used them on everyone. Of course, there is no evidence that any of them have actually married each other (only a relationship between Isaac and Jenna, but marriage does not seem to be involved if they live apart so often). Perhaps... no, I doubt they participated in too many group activities after defeating Doom Dragon.

Ivan&Mia would make mutch sense, since Ivan has a mother (sister) complex and Mia has a affectation for all kind of helpless men (Garret). Someday, these combination turned to a unforgettable onenight stand with lots of great moments^^ That would explain, why Karis has green hair, can use Jupiter psynergy based healing tecniques and her overall cuteness :heart:  :Ivan:& :Mia: for win!

yes

... this all brings me back to one of my first posts...

I was trying to explain how Karis looks like a clone of Jenna...

Mainly the hair, cape, staff, clothing colors, and skirt is a clone of Jenna's.
Then add in personailty and likes the main character...
CLONE CLONE!

Of corse this was before I knew who the parrents were said to be.
so my best guess is....

:Ivan: and  :Sheba:

is that a shock?

Some people think that :Ivan: and :Sheba: are from two different clans and possibly enemys.
They may have the same powers but I beleve that  :Ivan: + :Sheba: = green haired Jenna like Jupiter Adapt


But of corse if you want the real answer you just have to wait until GS 4.

I've heard about GS 4. Will it be really out? Tell me more :happy:

There hasn't been any official word on it yet.

Quite frankly, the only reason I can think of that they wouldn't release Golden Sun would be if their entire studio went bust/was shut down.
They left so many questions unanswered and even had the nerve to end it on a cliffhanger. Refusing us another game to explain all of that just wouldn't make sense.


Anyway;
I never got the feeling Ivan was gay. The way he acted just reinforced the fact that he was younger than the others.

And somehow I doubt that Karis is the daughter of Sheba. If that was true, why wouldn't they have mentioned Sheba like they mentioned Jenna?
I think that Ivan (and the others) just married random people, maybe not even adepts.

IMHO Straight until there's remote suggestion otherwise. He's just somewhat androgynous, like every other wind adept up until Dark Dawn.

I-- :Sweat: ...oh god shipping debates! *Flees*

Why does this keep getting revived?  Also, Marin, your avi is of KARIS.  His daughter.  Gay people don't make babies that way.  As I pointed out on the first page, it's already canon that he's straight.  Do we really need to drag this on?