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Title: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 02, August, 2010, 11:59:43 AM
I need four new elemental Djinn of the elements (fire, water, wind, and earth) But i need them to look different than the original lot...
I will eventually need them in sprite form but a simple design would be great to go on first
If anyones decent at sketching / has a scanner and are genuinely interested could you please help me out.

If someone could try an Earth djinn to start that would be great.

Im thinking some sort of brownish/green

GAH...!!! truly I have no idea
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Salanewt on 02, August, 2010, 01:33:25 PM
I suppose I can try making one tomorrow, as well as to finish those other sprites. Could you please remind me which planet corresponds to each element (since I have a feeling that you are not using Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter for these)?

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 02, August, 2010, 04:56:29 PM
Oh cool that would be great dude

Venus > Uranus
Mercury > Neptune
Mars > Saturn
Jupiter > Pluto


Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Salanewt on 03, August, 2010, 01:19:09 PM
Okay, I have two side sprites of your Uranus djinni ready, and both are different versions. One is kind of shaped like a crescent, the other has a few leaves on its back (and both are about the same height as the Jupiter djinni). I have a few more changes that I want to do to the one with leaves, but could you please explain how you might want it to look? They both currently have a sluggish look to them, lacking legs.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 03, August, 2010, 02:36:23 PM
Its hard to say to be honest like the four current djinn arnt based on a animals (and ive never tried to figure out what they are) so ive been looking at monster sprites online to try and get some ideas

post what ya got so far could ya dude...

I had the idea of just doing a pallet swap of the original four, but id rather have something original

:) im useless
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Salanewt on 03, August, 2010, 02:57:19 PM
I wouldn't say so, just look at your series! Anyway, I suppose I can upload the sprite that I have so far.

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab125/Salanewt/Uranusdjinnibeta1.gif)

I think it should be larger, but I would like your input first. I am also working on a portrait based on this, but it is coming along quite slowly.

As for what the djinn look like, my best guess is tha you are supposed to interpret them in your own way (for example, I see a toad+Pikachu, mutated dog+scorpion, squirrel, and a fish).

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 03, August, 2010, 03:29:41 PM
Quote from: Salanewt on 03, August, 2010, 02:57:19 PM
I wouldn't say so, just look at your series! Anyway, I suppose I can upload the sprite that I have so far.

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab125/Salanewt/Uranusdjinnibeta1.gif)

I think it should be larger, but I would like your input first. I am also working on a portrait based on this, but it is coming along quite slowly.

As for what the djinn look like, my best guess is tha you are supposed to interpret them in your own way (for example, I see a toad+Pikachu, mutated dog+scorpion, squirrel, and a fish).

Have a nice day.

your sprite defo has the perfect colours.. 100% Its a tad small like you say but its coming along nicely
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Salanewt on 03, August, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
You like it? Thanks! Also, I have a new version that I think you might like a bit more, and it is also larger now (large enough to fit in a pair of legs, so here it is).

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab125/Salanewt/Uranusdjinnibeta1-1.gif)

Some changes: More green (slightly), larger body, large leaf on tail, and I managed to fit in a leg. I decided to keep the old eyes though. While I am making this post, I might as well ask a few questions. How does this look? Any room for improvement?

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 03, August, 2010, 07:20:43 PM
looks great man would love to see it from the front,

btw I know I said colours were perfect, but could you make the green a bit darker like a moss colour
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Mastermind on 04, August, 2010, 12:07:58 PM
Why different djinn for the same elements?
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 04, August, 2010, 04:49:31 PM
Quote from: Mastermind on 04, August, 2010, 12:07:58 PM
Why different djinn for the same elements?

Same elements but different... in a sense...

The way i see it is the same basic elements IE ( Fire, Water, Wind, Earth but on the Golden Sun (Weyard) and The Silver Moon which I dubbed Lucere the source of power comes from different magnitudes of power.. IE

GS = Venus / Mars / Jupiter / Mercury
SM = Uranus / Saturn / Pluto / Neptune

GS = Gaia / Magma / Airs / Aqua Rock
SM = Terra / Flares / Tempest / Hydra Rock

Power is coming in different forms thus I dont want the same Djinn, thats just being lazy, okay like I said before I could do a pallete swap, but I wanna see what I can get first

How this effects the adepts is that:
both have same basic psyngery while others  more unique to them. the gs crowd will gain more new found moves cause of there new strength after the release of alchemy.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 05, August, 2010, 04:36:45 AM
Ah, but Maxi, aren't you aware?

Eris scared Pluto so bad it's no longer a planet.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/acidadept/eris.jpg)

She may not seem like much, but trust me - she's one scary little witch.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 05, August, 2010, 10:07:18 AM
Quote from: Role on 05, August, 2010, 04:36:45 AM
Ah, but Maxi, aren't you aware?

Eris scared Pluto so bad it's no longer a planet.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/acidadept/eris.jpg)

She may not seem like much, but trust me - she's one scary little witch.

i heard, but all that leaves is Earth in the planets which would be ground meaning that uranus would be... wind

wait a sec passing gases from dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

Nah Pluto sounds cool and always will have a planet spot in my heart (lol we had a board game years ago revolving planets (oldschool planets ftw
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 05, August, 2010, 10:18:45 AM
Don't forget the power of the moon!  It will punish you! *is shot*
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 05, August, 2010, 10:28:19 AM
Quote from: Role on 05, August, 2010, 10:18:45 AM
Don't forget the power of the moon!  It will punish you! *is shot*

I haven't actually forgotten :)

Earth symbolizes Weyard
Moon  Symbolizes Lucere
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 06, August, 2010, 10:25:32 AM
...I guess you didn't get the reference?
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 06, August, 2010, 02:56:23 PM
Quote from: Role on 06, August, 2010, 10:25:32 AM
...I guess you didn't get the reference?

afraid not
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 07, August, 2010, 08:27:25 AM
REALLY?  Are you SERIOUS?  You're making me save and upload a pic of the heroine of one of the most corny shows EVER?


In the name of the moon...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/acidadept/ad80243c408fc04360fd8d5204229c70.jpg)
She will punish you!
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 07, August, 2010, 09:36:57 AM
I dont watch anime, :L :sad:

Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Tetsuya the Azure Blade on 07, August, 2010, 09:44:46 AM
Ugh Sailor Moon, that show is LAME.

Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 07, August, 2010, 11:16:56 AM
Quote from: MegaDarkNero on 07, August, 2010, 09:44:46 AM
Ugh Sailor Moon, that show is LAME.


Tell me about it.

Also:  Maxi - you did NOT just say you didn't know who Sailor Moon is.  I mean... come on... there's no voice more grating on the nerves than hers!  That show was so freaking corny it burns itself into your retinas, forever making you wish you'd never seen it!  You HAVE to have at least HEARD about it at some point in your life...
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Hoopa on 07, August, 2010, 11:31:50 AM
People, you're getting off topic here. This topic is meant for Djinni design requests.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 07, August, 2010, 11:40:32 AM
I'm on topic.  This is tangentially related.

You mentioned Pluto as being one of your 'elements'.

Pluto was ousted from planethood by the discovery of Eris (named after the Goddess of Discord, given the debate its discovery sparked)

Eris is the ubermage from Glory of Heracles

The moon is also an important element in the greek mythos that GS takes a lot from.

You didn't get the reference, so I spelled it out.

You still didn't understand, so I stood there in disbelief.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Salanewt on 07, August, 2010, 12:33:39 PM
Good news, I will be able to finish and upload the rest of the Uranus djinni sprites on either Tuesday or Wednesday, but I am back at the trailer without my supplies (not to mention that my friend is with me, so I have to spend my spriting time visiting).

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 07, August, 2010, 01:53:24 PM
Great Sala, cant wait for em,

>_> enjoy your time with your friend... Do I sense a female companion?

@Role, Normal Ariel and digital TV here doesn't ever show anime on TV.(would need a Sky dish for that) So i would have to seek it out on DVD / Internet to know what it is. I may have heard the name whilst browsing the internet like as its familiar
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 07, August, 2010, 10:19:05 PM
What is it with you yungin's?

Anywho, what kind of theme are you going for with the djinni?

Venus was stone
Mars was flame
Jupiter was wind
Mercury was aquatic

Perhaps something like...

Saturn is Plants
Uranus is Explosive energy
Neptune is Ice
Pluto is Lightning

Or something to that regard?  It'd help make the redesigns a lot easier to do.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 07, August, 2010, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: Role on 07, August, 2010, 10:19:05 PM
What is it with you yungin's?

Anywho, what kind of theme are you going for with the djinni?

Venus was stone
Mars was flame
Jupiter was wind
Mercury was aquatic

Perhaps something like...

Saturn is Plants
Uranus is Explosive energy
Neptune is Ice
Pluto is Lightning

Or something to that regard?  It'd help make the redesigns a lot easier to do.

im 19, 20 in 2 months, not exactly young lol.

erm

if you just switch around Uranus and Saturn, that pretty much spot on, (Saturn = the Fire)

I made the next chapter with Sala's Djinn (okay i made the grass a tad darker) but it worked a charm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBCgR38a6Ng (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBCgR38a6Ng)

awaiting word back from Meg about character art, its been like a month without any news soooo gahhh. and messaged a friend of mine to get some more avaters on the go..

2 Characters, (Neptune Warrior > Koris and Mage > Artem.. also taking suggestions for naming a female mage wind adept (must comply with less or equal than 5 letter rule tho.. (im just that oldschool :)
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 07, August, 2010, 10:37:19 PM
No offense, but it looks like a retarded snake...  Me thinks that Sala may not have quite been done with it yet.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 07, August, 2010, 10:49:55 PM
Quote from: Role on 07, August, 2010, 10:37:19 PM
No offense, but it looks like a retarded snake...  Me thinks that Sala may not have quite been done with it yet.

lol What type of obese snake you referring to? Nah i understand that he is may make slight changes but i got the impression that he was just working on the other directions.. But still the way my videos are is that something that may have taken many many hours to make sometimes get like 20 secs screen time and bam moving on (like that world map) GAHHHH Hours pored into that and its nowhere near done. That sprite has left the impression that there are new djinn and thats the important part.

all in all its planning for my delicious rom hack to come mohahahaha, the show must go on. I,ll take the sprites Sala makes and store them in my collection.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Rolina on 07, August, 2010, 10:52:16 PM
By the way, your face portraits are... a wee bit high on the resolution and kinda stand out compared to everything else.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 07, August, 2010, 11:02:38 PM
Quote from: Role on 07, August, 2010, 10:52:16 PM
By the way, your face portraits are... a wee bit high on the resolution and kinda stand out compared to everything else.

I noticed that... nothing I can do really about that, the text is taking directly from the game (IE) emulator and Rom with a text editor and saldy must lose quality

maybe if the portraits were made smaller, i dunno..
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: Salanewt on 07, August, 2010, 11:50:03 PM
QuoteMe thinks that Sala may not have quite been done with it yet.

Lol, somewhat. However, I like how Maxi darkened it slightly.

Quoteretarded snake

I thought so too, so I tried adding legs (which almost remind me of tiny tree stumps). At one point, I was going for a frog-like look with plant parts. Before that was practically a crescent moon with a belly, but I decided to change it (however, as Pluto is basically lightning, this crescent shape might be useful).

Also, nice video Maxi! I will try to make some more sprites as well, including portraits.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Djinn design Request
Post by: MaxiPower on 08, August, 2010, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: Salanewt on 07, August, 2010, 11:50:03 PM
QuoteMe thinks that Sala may not have quite been done with it yet.

Lol, somewhat. However, I like how Maxi darkened it slightly.

Quoteretarded snake

I thought so too, so I tried adding legs (which almost remind me of tiny tree stumps). At one point, I was going for a frog-like look with plant parts. Before that was practically a crescent moon with a belly, but I decided to change it (however, as Pluto is basically lightning, this crescent shape might be useful).

Also, nice video Maxi! I will try to make some more sprites as well, including portraits.

Have a nice day.

Wow thanks Sala... >_> you thee man :)

them other Djinn and the Marcello arnt needed for a few chapters which could be like a month or 2 knowing my speed down the line so no rush on em..

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Any chance on another PC sprite tho lol :) Next episode follows Enya and Artem (The hired Adepts) as they are looking for the bandits, + a mix up which ends with a confused battle with Oscar and Sakum.

I have a NPC sprite of Enya which will do but Artem is in a dire need of a spritesheet. >_> any chance or am i pushing my luck lulz

personality wise, Enya (Earth Warrior) is stubborn and tomboyish and kinda has Artem (Water Mage) on a lease.