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Golden Sun Games => Golden Sun: Dark Dawn => Topic started by: Mars on 26, November, 2011, 09:20:14 AM

Title: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Mars on 26, November, 2011, 09:20:14 AM
I see this from a poster,I found it via Google.This is a poster of Europe's Golden Sun DD.

(http://i.6.cn/cvbnm/82/4e/88/9e7a24b8d70d51847da25b91c1b76c43.png)

I have two questions here.

(http://i.6.cn/cvbnm/c8/93/13/d67a789b79a722755e861e94a410f92d.png)
Do we have a Patcher's Place like that?

(http://i.6.cn/cvbnm/ea/f7/9e/b7736f0da18587d3ca4095ae86dcfd3c.png)
Um,my NDSi doesn't display like that......I had the djinns on my NDSi's top screen......not the bottom......
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Rolina on 26, November, 2011, 12:03:16 PM
Not sure if that's real, but if it is... Why did they change it?
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Tetsuya the Azure Blade on 26, November, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
Quote from: Role on 26, November, 2011, 12:03:16 PM
Not sure if that's real, but if it is... Why did they change it?
Because they wanted to. Duh.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Misery on 26, November, 2011, 12:53:57 PM
Player's screen on the bottom is clearly superior, so I'm glad they changed that.
As for Patcher's Place, there's probably some design related reason.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Tan on 26, November, 2011, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: Role on 26, November, 2011, 12:03:16 PM
Not sure if that's real, but if it is... Why did they change it?
The Patcher's part was probably due to the way it was designed in general. It looks off kilter due to the area on the overworld being larger than the platform the area's on.

As for the screens part, that was probably for touchscreen-related reasons.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Rolina on 26, November, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
Quote from: Misery on 26, November, 2011, 12:53:57 PM
Player's screen on the bottom is clearly superior, so I'm glad they changed that.
As for Patcher's Place, there's probably some design related reason.
I don't know, I'd prefer to have it on top, and to have good looking, grid-style menus on the bottom.  That whole "all selections in one line" thing?  Uggh...

Plus, it'd have been nice to be able to draw on the map, like in the DS zelda games.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Mars on 27, November, 2011, 12:36:10 AM
I have upload the original poster to deviantART,but CAUTION:EXTRAORDINARY HUGE

10.48MB,the size is 4209×5960.

[spoiler](http://www.deviantart.com/download/271129136/golden_sun_dd_europe_poster_huge_by_mars1992-d4hf8kw.jpg)[/spoiler]

You can download it here:http://www.deviantart.com/download/271129136/golden_sun_dd_europe_poster_huge_by_mars1992-d4hf8kw.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/download/271129136/golden_sun_dd_europe_poster_huge_by_mars1992-d4hf8kw.jpg)
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Salanewt on 27, November, 2011, 10:54:27 AM
QuoteI don't know, I'd prefer to have it on top, and to have good looking, grid-style menus on the bottom.  That whole "all selections in one line" thing?  Uggh...

Personally, I wouldn't have minded both. Have movement on the bottom screen, and then push the normal view onto the top screen and open up better menus when the button is pressed.

Actually though, would one consider demo video stuff to be beta, or is that something else? If anything, is there any beta or alpha stuff in there?
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Ninja Steve on 27, November, 2011, 10:56:01 AM
>sees mention of Patcher's Place
>reminded of incident at Temple where someone got butthurt over the fact that existence of said Place was a spoiler

anyway yeah gotta say I like it better with the player's stuff on the bottom screen
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Durza on 29, November, 2011, 09:50:29 AM
The European version has the player on the bottom screen unless I somehow got the American. It looks about right, but I don't have it in front of me, so I can't say for sure.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Mars on 29, November, 2011, 10:39:52 PM
Quote from: Durza on 29, November, 2011, 09:50:29 AM
The European version has the player on the bottom screen unless I somehow got the American. It looks about right, but I don't have it in front of me, so I can't say for sure.
I have the European version,it appears just like the American version on my NDSi,status on the top screen when the world and Matthew on the bottom screen.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Rolina on 01, December, 2011, 02:20:45 AM
My problem with both on the bottom screen sala is that it defeats the whole point of having it on the DS.  You might as well use the GBA or PSP for that.  Right now, the top screen hardly does anything at all, in fact if it wasn't there the game wouldn't be any different than it is.  If you have two screens, you might as well use them properly, you know?

I guess a good mid-point would be to shift the bottom screen to the top screen when accessing the menu, then back down when you resume play or something, but even then, I feel like the top screen is being wasted.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Salanewt on 01, December, 2011, 10:28:13 AM
I guess a good mid-point would be to shift the bottom screen to the top screen when accessing the menu

This is what I said? Either way, something tells me that they did it this way simply because they felt obligated to make players use the touch screens more often.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Aile~♥ on 01, December, 2011, 10:47:41 AM
Or they could have used a button, like Start or Select, to switch the two screens at will, and put the menu on the top screen. Or allow control of the top screen with +pad and buttons while the bottom screen is controlled by touch.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Rolina on 01, December, 2011, 04:35:22 PM
I still think that a touch screen menu would be better than touch screen controls... Am I the only one who prefers the old fashioned button commands?  I mean, I never used the stylus in Dark Dawn...
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Aile~♥ on 01, December, 2011, 06:43:17 PM
I LOVED the stylus! It let me move in more than 8 directions! Also because it's annoying how your character automatically starts running after a second.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Mars on 01, December, 2011, 09:20:33 PM
If we can switch the bottom screen and the top screen,that would be perfect.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Kide on 01, December, 2011, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: Role on 01, December, 2011, 04:35:22 PM
Am I the only one who prefers the old fashioned button commands?  I mean, I never used the stylus in Dark Dawn...

No, you are not. It was the same to me as well. I mean, gaming is mashing buttons for me. That's why I didn't enjoy the DS Zelda games much, for instance.
Title: Re: Golden Sun DD……Beta?
Post by: Rolina on 02, December, 2011, 12:56:15 AM
Some games are designed well for stylus controls, such as WEWY.  Most games I've played, however, aren't.  I'm with you on the Zelda games - I didn't think stylus only worked there.  I wish they had the option for button controls.