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Title: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Atrius on 01, April, 2013, 09:33:38 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/101KZ915_FD001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/101KZ915_FD002.jpg)

That is all.
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 01, April, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
QuoteThat is all.
Ah. Due to the lack of a real introduction, I'll just assume this is an Aprils Joke based on randomness. The Random Screens do, however, give an idea on what your next editor could look like in one way, I suppose.

P.S. I wonder what FD means? (FD001.jpg, FD002.jpg ; Probably short for Fools Day.
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Crystal Sonata on 01, April, 2013, 01:13:21 PM
This actually sorta reminds me of Game Maker. Google it, it's made by Enterbrain.
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: MaxiPower on 01, April, 2013, 03:44:28 PM
I don't know whether to shed a tear of joy.... or "looks at date" a tear of pain and suffering...
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Atrius on 01, April, 2013, 10:19:40 PM
Quote from: Teawater on 01, April, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
P.S. I wonder what FD means? (FD001.jpg, FD002.jpg ; Probably short for Fools Day.

Close.  "Forgotten Dreams"
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 01, April, 2013, 10:38:48 PM
Oh, okay then. Somehow, that seems strangely convenient. Imagine: Atrius's Forgotten Dreams! / April Fools Day!

Just to make sure, but will this also work on a PC using a Windows operating system?
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Kioll on 02, April, 2013, 12:23:19 AM
Strangely convenient?  Not really.  He's mentioned "Forgotten Dreams" before when he said he wanted to make his own game.  As for the comment about it looking strangely like Game Maker, that's probably because it is.  If memory serves, the Editor is made in Game Maker.  The art's neat.  Looks a bit GS-styled, but it's neat.  I certainly hope this game hits other operating systems than Android.
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Aile~♥ on 02, April, 2013, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: Takumi on 01, April, 2013, 01:13:21 PM
This actually sorta reminds me of Game Maker. Google it, it's made by Enterbrain.

LOL no, it's not. Enterbrain makes the RPG Maker series. Game Maker is by YoYo Games. And Atrius would know because he already used it for development of the Editor.


Though Atrius, if this isn't an April Fool's Day joke, you should be more careful with your timing in the future.
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 02, April, 2013, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: Kioll on 02, April, 2013, 12:23:19 AM
Strangely convenient?  Not really.  He's mentioned "Forgotten Dreams" before when he said he wanted to make his own game.  As for the comment about it looking strangely like Game Maker, that's probably because it is.  If memory serves, the Editor is made in Game Maker.  The art's neat.  Looks a bit GS-styled, but it's neat.  I certainly hope this game hits other operating systems than Android.
I know he mentioned it, but I was referring to the acronym being "strangely convenient.", since I didn't notice it before. (So now I have another reason to like the title: "Forgotten Dreams")
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Atrius on 03, April, 2013, 12:22:12 AM
April Fools!

They're real!


Wait, am I doing it wrong? ...  Anyway, before saying anything I would like to remind you the project is still VERY early in development so everything is subject to change.  "Forgotten Dreams" is being programmed in Java, and is designed to be fairly portable.  I am looking into releasing on Android and PC eventually.

Those are the first screenshots of the editor, the map displayed was created entirely using it on the phone.  The editor is integrated into the game's engine, going from editing a map to playing it is pretty much like closing a menu.

The art style is still somewhat WIP, I have yet to come up with any sprites I'm happy with.  Yes it will be GS inspired, but I don't want it to look exactly the same.  One of my main concerns is making the tilesets easy for users to create their own maps, and have them look good.  I hate the "grid" effect that it seems impossible to avoid with most RPG making programs, and the tilesets they come with.

Tune in next April Fools when I announce the game isn't going to use text boxes for speech!
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 03, April, 2013, 01:09:56 AM
Oh good. PC!  Thanks for the details.  And Java means Mac users should have no problem using it.

As for the grid effect, that seems understandable, I imagine one could have a border around the corners of the tile being selected for editing... (Even if the border doesn't totally surround the edges.) Or just simply highlight the entire tile.

And for the art style... hmm... Not sure what to say, unless you wanted to look at the rest of the games Camelot made. (Or even better, google the person who made the sprites if they are shown in the credits... as you never know who might work at multiple companies (But not necessarily both companies at the same time.))
Title: Re: Attention
Post by: Misery on 03, April, 2013, 11:55:18 AM
So I guess the April Fools was that it wasn't an April Fools?

You can give users options (in the tilesets) to avoid blocky maps, but that's really all you can do. I think Golden Sun averts the grid feeling pretty nicely just by having unrestricted 8-directional movement. Different elevation levels and the maps being overall well designed plays a big part too, of course.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Atrius on 11, April, 2013, 03:39:59 AM
*moves & renames topic*

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/images.jpeg)

Teawater, this is what I mean by "the grid" the transitions from grass to sand and sand to water are so blocky the tiles are obvious.  I'm trying to design my tilesets in a way that the tiles aren't as obvious in game.  If you look at the dirt areas in my images they appear more natural, and it's hard to break it apart into individual tiles.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 11, April, 2013, 03:58:07 AM
Yeah, I realized I misread after reading Misery's post around the time he posted (And I guess I never did correct myself, oh well.), but thanks for that little tidbit.

Anyway, let me guess? You are using two layers to perform the overlapping trick? The second image doesn't seem to show the dirt paths tileset, so...
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Misery on 11, April, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
I think it's more likely he's simply making transition tiles, using two layers just for the ground seems like a bit of a waste.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 11, April, 2013, 09:26:01 PM
Yes, that is probably the most likely bet. However having two layers could allow one to have the same dirt path on different ground types. (And the tiles that are 100% dirt could still go on the same layer as the rest of the ground.) Since he seems to only be using one type of grass tile, I suppose it wouldn't really be necessary.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Atrius on 12, April, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
There are 3 layers, but only one is grass/dirt.  I still haven't finished any tilesets either.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: mecurylighthouse on 13, April, 2013, 03:17:57 PM
If I may weigh in... the grass looks a little plain you should include alternate grass  (and maybe rocky and sand)tiles of the same style to avoid a too uniform tileset.  that was one of the reasons I loved golden suns graphics I see you've tried with the thicker patches but that  is just my opinion
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Atrius on 14, April, 2013, 01:18:57 AM
*Facepalm*

Serves me right for posting anything before finishing it.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Misery on 14, April, 2013, 03:43:21 AM
Well...

Quote from: Atrius on 12, April, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
I still haven't finished any tilesets either.

I would guess Atrius is going to work a bit more on the tilesets.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Aile~♥ on 14, April, 2013, 09:57:54 AM
Even so, you can't expect not to get constructive criticism even on something that's not finished. I know what that's like, and it gets kind of irritating at times, but that's life. If you're lucky, they may point out something actually useful!
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: ElectricArcher on 15, April, 2013, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: Atrius on 14, April, 2013, 01:18:57 AM
*Facepalm*

Serves me right for posting anything before finishing it.

Hah, indeed. I've noticed this myself - you can't submit a WIP without getting all kinds of feedback about what's wrong with it, even though you've already stated it's unfinished. It always seems a bit ridiculous to the poster, but it sort of makes sense - after all, the readers typically don't know which parts you simply haven't gotten to yet and which parts are actually buggy. But, as Jamie so nicely put it:

Quote from: JamietheFlameUser
If you're lucky, they may point out something actually useful!
It's rare, but it can happen. :)
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: KyleRunner on 19, June, 2013, 02:15:12 PM
Man... these pictures are wonderful!

I hope we can get some news soon (not asking, just hoping)....
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 19, June, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
Yeah, I'm sure most of us hope...

And I could ask a whole bunch of questions about it, but figured it would be a waste of time. (Assuming the questions don't have answers yet.)

-What will the music sound like?
-Will there be any mini-games? (Like throwing coins in the fountain at Tolbi, or the betting games you may find in Contigo.)
-How about games like Trial Roads or whatever contest Isaac played in while in Tolbi?
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Atrius on 21, June, 2013, 04:21:16 PM
Those are questions I'm still working on myself...
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: KyleRunner on 15, July, 2013, 06:08:19 PM
Atrius, does you project have a dedicated site? I want to know more about it.
Just asking...
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 15, July, 2013, 06:38:29 PM
Not yet, as far as I know, but from what I last remember, I believe he said that it would.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 01, April, 2015, 12:35:37 AM
QuoteTune in next April Fools when I announce the game isn't going to use text boxes for speech!
I just realized you never did make that announcement. Anyway, since it's April Fools, I guess it would be the perfect time to ask? - Have you made any progress worth mentioning? - Ex: How is the speech looking?
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: KyleRunner on 10, June, 2015, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: Fox on 01, April, 2015, 12:35:37 AM
QuoteTune in next April Fools when I announce the game isn't going to use text boxes for speech!
I just realized you never did make that announcement. Anyway, since it's April Fools, I guess it would be the perfect time to ask? - Have you made any progress worth mentioning? - Ex: How is the speech looking?

Are the dreams forgotten?
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 10, June, 2015, 04:26:55 PM
Absolutely! They're dreams... that go forgotten... then remembered... oh wait, still forgotten... Oh the irony... This project could only exist if the dreams were remembered... so I opt-in to rename this Remembering Dreams. :P (Actually, doesn't matter.)
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: charon the ferryman on 12, June, 2015, 09:15:20 AM
Oh the irony. I wonder how Atrius has been lately anyways, haven't seen him in ages.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Salanewt on 12, June, 2015, 12:40:05 PM
Maybe that's a part of the game. He doesn't update at all so we forget about his dream, and then BAM: release.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Atrius on 13, June, 2015, 07:26:56 AM
Perhaps.  Problem is it's an ambitious project I'm trying to make as a hobby alone while working a rather demanding full time (Sometimes more than) job.

@Seto, stressed out, and depressed.  Oh, and after that started I found out I might have a life threatening illness, or maybe nothing, I dunno.  None of the doctors I've seen so far could say what's wrong me.


I don't know why this image never made it into this topic, it's the only other one I've released so far.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/20140325_211724.jpg)
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: charon the ferryman on 13, June, 2015, 08:39:23 AM
Quote from: Atrius on 13, June, 2015, 07:26:56 AM
@Seto, stressed out, and depressed.  Oh, and after that started I found out I might have a life threatening illness, or maybe nothing, I dunno.  None of the doctors I've seen so far could say what's wrong me.
That's terrible, Atrius. If you need any support I'm pretty sure us GSHC longtimers will be there with you every step of the way. We're with you, Atrius.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: KyleRunner on 13, June, 2015, 09:59:16 AM
Quote from: Seto Kaiba on 13, June, 2015, 08:39:23 AM
Quote from: Atrius on 13, June, 2015, 07:26:56 AM
@Seto, stressed out, and depressed.  Oh, and after that started I found out I might have a life threatening illness, or maybe nothing, I dunno.  None of the doctors I've seen so far could say what's wrong me.
That's terrible, Atrius. If you need any support I'm pretty sure us GSHC longtimers will be there with you every step of the way. We're with you, Atrius.

+1
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 13, June, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
@Life Threatening: Would this be anything like seizures or stroke, or would it be better/worse?
(For those who don't know. stroke includes slurred speech, half your body numb, perhaps the worst head-ache you've ever had(?), etc. --- It may include being an on and off thing, I think?) (And yes, those are possible at a young age.) (Also, the earlier the diagnosis, the better your chances. Even with cancers/tumors, since they can spread, I think.)
(And I also know that lack of sleep can increase the risks of these types of things.)

Anyway, I hope the best for you... and everything that Seto said, have a nice day!


Quotedon't know why this image never made it into this topic, it's the only other one I've released so far.
Maybe it was posted in the cbox a long time ago?
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Atrius on 28, June, 2015, 07:48:01 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to worry everyone over my potential illness, I was having a bad day.  Nothing serious has happened yet, it's only worrying symptoms so far.  I don't want to go into details, but there's really only about a 5% chance there's something seriously wrong with me.  I'm just frustrated because they won't be able to do the tests to find out for sure until the end of July.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Knight of Purgatory on 29, June, 2015, 12:08:14 PM
Oh darn, that's pretty far away. Hope its nothing too serious
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 29, June, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
Well, even if it turns out the 5% chance does happen... Live strong..... Nothing will happen unless it is meant to happen. (Or something like that.) - (And if it helps any, we're all likely destined to die some day. - Depending on whether there are new breakthroughs in science... er... nevermind.)

QuoteOh darn, that's pretty far away.
It only seems far away.... but it'll be here in no time at all! (I think.) Just in ONE month...
...and I'll be looking at what's going on with Windows 10...
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Atrius on 29, June, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: Fox on 29, June, 2015, 12:18:58 PM... (And if it helps any, we're all likely destined to die some day. - Depending on whether there are new breakthroughs in science... er... nevermind.) ...

You stop that train of thought right now.  You're talking 1.5% chance scenario for an average 50 year old there.  I'm a 27 year old physically fit member of the military whose immune system has international experience.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Knight of Purgatory on 29, June, 2015, 11:45:46 PM
Quote from: Atrius on 29, June, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
You stop that train of thought right now.

*Tries to stop train, gets crushed by it.* IS THIS WHAT IRONY MEANS? AGHGHHGHHG OHTHEPAINMAKEITSTOP

But seriously,stay safe, and dont get hit by trains.
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 30, June, 2015, 01:56:18 PM
The point was to turn the 5% chance into something practically meaningless (In a positive way)... (As in, not needing to feel the "can't wait to find out" frustration pressure...)
QuoteI'm a 27 year old physically fit member of the military whose immune system has international experience.
... and then you never said what this 5% chance is of....? "Life-threatening"... and details about being stressed out/depressed is all I know.

But um... Okay.. I guess I'll stop now. :p (And we are going a bit off-topic, aren't we?)
Title: Re: "Forgotten Dreams" first images
Post by: Knight of Purgatory on 02, July, 2015, 11:53:19 PM
Yeah, the thread is getting "derailed"