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Title: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 07, February, 2014, 04:37:51 PM
What do we intake that aren't considered plants nor animal/bugs?

I can only think of two at the moment?

Water
Salt

Cheese/milk, eggs... may come from an animal, so not sure if I should count those.
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Thunder-squall on 07, February, 2014, 11:18:57 PM
Bugs.  Ideas.  Boogers.
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 08, February, 2014, 12:56:03 AM
Actually, bugs don't count. (Did you see where I said "nor animal/bugs?"?)

@Ideas / Boogers: I was actually looking for things normal ordinary people would eat or drink.

I know one! How about human flesh? But again, what normal ordinary person would eat that?
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Wolf on 08, February, 2014, 04:19:00 AM
Fungus, cells (egg yolk), oxygen, sun rays, rocks (sea or ocean salt), protein, wax (beeswax)...
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Knight of Purgatory on 08, February, 2014, 04:21:44 AM
I looked at wolf's post first and I got confused for a while cuz it was random looking
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 08, February, 2014, 10:54:50 AM
QuoteFungus, cells (egg yolk), oxygen, sun rays, rocks (sea or ocean salt), protein, wax (beeswax)...
Dunno?; okay; Yes, but looking for food/drinks...; no; Big Yes; maybe; maybe...

@Fungus: In what way are ordinary people known to eat these?

@Sun rays aren't food nor drink. (I know intake was probably the wrong word... but I thought it was shorter than saying 'eat or drink'

Huh... You're saying "wax" reminds me of honey.

How do bees make honey? (I think it's something to do with pollen...)
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Knight of Purgatory on 08, February, 2014, 11:06:54 AM
Honey? If I recall correctly, it is made from nectar. The nectar is gotten when bees are off pollinating flowers
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 08, February, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
Oh yeah, that sounds right. (Bees go to get nectar, but unintentionally pollinate flowers. (If I remember correctly.)
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Misery on 08, February, 2014, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: Teawater on 08, February, 2014, 10:54:50 AM@Fungus: In what way are ordinary people known to eat these?
Mushrooms are commonly used on pizza in food, geez Teawater :P
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 08, February, 2014, 03:04:52 PM
In that case, I consider it plant-like! (But yes, it is not a plant... so...)

(Not sure why I was thinking of some sort of algae or something... irrelevant, I guess.)
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Wolf on 10, February, 2014, 02:08:04 AM
Truffles are another type of well known, edible fungus.

I forgot to say beeswax is used to make honeycombs which can be eaten.  They taste great with honey.
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Knight of Purgatory on 10, February, 2014, 07:30:37 AM
Quote from: Teawater on 08, February, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
Oh yeah, that sounds right. (Bees go to get nectar, but unintentionally pollinate flowers. (If I remember correctly.)

Something like that. But some pollen also enters the honey
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Thunder-squall on 10, February, 2014, 08:58:51 AM
I wonder what TeaWater's going to do with this accumulated information...
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 10, February, 2014, 11:56:21 AM
Nothing. ;) Except maybe come up with some theories as to why we eat the non-animal/non-plant foods? I don't know. (And why some plants can be poisonous? Etc.) ; Most of this is more or less discussion. - To go a bit further, how did people come to eat the stuff they eat? Ex: Are there any animals that eat salt directly? (Besides it just being in water.)
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Thunder-squall on 10, February, 2014, 08:34:48 PM
Something that people eat --it's not food-- that's salty. Hmm...

Yes, lurkers, I know *exactly* where your mind went.

But aside from that, there are tonnes of multivitamin products that are, well, minerals.
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 10, February, 2014, 10:51:59 PM
Yeah, the history of the more obscured side of our diets...
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Misery on 11, February, 2014, 08:40:38 AM
Quote from: Thunder-squall on 10, February, 2014, 08:34:48 PM
Something that people eat --it's not food-- that's salty. Hmm...

Yes, lurkers, I know *exactly* where your mind went.
Not until now, it didn't...

Quote from: Teawater on 10, February, 2014, 11:56:21 AM
Nothing. ;) Except maybe come up with some theories as to why we eat the non-animal/non-plant foods? I don't know. (And why some plants can be poisonous? Etc.)
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 11, February, 2014, 01:42:16 PM
Thanks: All plants are poisonous.

How about animals? Could they all be poisonous too?

Is there anything that all creatures can eat or drink?

Does water harm any living being at all? (As long as it is clean, and not taken in excess.)
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Thunder-squall on 11, February, 2014, 05:55:32 PM
After we're done, I think we'll have great motivation for a super villain.
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 11, February, 2014, 09:07:01 PM
Super villian... Maybe he'll be your counterpart.
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Thunder-squall on 11, February, 2014, 11:55:13 PM
Quote from: Teawater on 11, February, 2014, 01:42:16 PM
Thanks: All plants are poisonous.

How about animals? Could they all be poisonous too?

It may have sounded random, but ^ this was what my previous post referred to.  It seemed we were trying to come up with reasons that *everything* on earth was poisonous.  And if we did--if we explained why everything on earth was poisonous--that'd then be good motivation for some super villain to destroy the earth.

Quote from: Teawater on 11, February, 2014, 01:42:16 PM

Is there anything that all creatures can eat or drink?


Anything that's not a neuro toxin, right?

Quote from: Teawater on 11, February, 2014, 01:42:16 PM

Does water harm any living being at all? (As long as it is clean, and not taken in excess.)


The Wicked Witch of the West.
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 11, February, 2014, 11:58:59 PM
QuoteThe Wicked Witch of the West.
Not some fantasy show called the Wizard of Oz... I meant in real life. If all living things need water to survive, then well, are there any exceptions?
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Thunder-squall on 12, February, 2014, 12:03:56 AM
Do insects "drink" water?
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 12, February, 2014, 02:14:05 AM
Yes. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_insects_drink_water?#slide=1

If everyone needs water, then everyone has to take laxatives for life! (Although, I thought I recalled reading about some bugs not needing a lot of water long ago... I think it might have been the spider, but some other bugs could count as well.)
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Wolf on 12, February, 2014, 03:41:30 AM
Quote from: Thunder-squall on 12, February, 2014, 12:03:56 AM
Do insects "drink" water?

I've seen wasps in my backyard drinking water from puddles and eating Thimble Cactus.
Title: Re: Saltwater
Post by: Misery on 12, February, 2014, 09:51:26 AM
The video wasn't meant as much as a statement as food for thought/relevant to discussion. The things he say make sense to me though, and I think it gives some insight in the nature of "poisonous" things.

As for water harming living beings, I recently learned that 100% pure h2o can be harmful (though probably not enough to be lethal, but I wouldn't know). I don't claim to fully understand the details, but it seems to me like without any traces of other substances, this water will try to form a bond with everything around it, giving it a "draining" effect. However, reaching this level of purity is supposedly pretty hard to do even artificially, and is mainly used for cleaning electronics in factories. So this doesn't necessarily apply to anything.