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Title: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 25, March, 2014, 12:29:47 PM
So I have restarted and am looking for people to help me make structures in minecraft.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 25, March, 2014, 01:01:52 PM
-Unfortunately, I have maybe a tiny bit of experience with Java.  (Mostly what I was doing in my newest editor/viewer months back.)
-I have once played a pirated version of MineCraft (Probably for less than a day? Can't remember.), but I decided not to beat it, and  I never hacked/modded it, either. From what I can tell, it is a good sandbox program, though.
-I have a desire on keeping an eye on this Mod, but don't quite have a high-enough desire to work with it, yet.

-Art: I might not be the person for this. However, I do know a little bit about music, and have even learned to play many songs on the piano. (Not to mention, I did experiment with making a few short tunes of my own in the past.) I doubt this would be of any use for sounds in the MineCraft Mod, though.
-That sounds like something everyone can do!

-Psynergy: If you do Scoop, are you planning on being able to obtain a random item from the ground at random times?  (Like how it is in the GBA games, anyway... atleast for TLA, anyhow.)
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 25, March, 2014, 02:31:18 PM
Note: I am going to edit the OP to put focus on the thinking part. While I do need art, sound, and maybe some coding. What is most pertinent right now is your brains :P

But really, I need people to help me brainstorm for this mod. (And to get news out to other Golden Sun sites)
On the topic of brainstorming,

@Teawater:
-Unfortunately... : meh :P
-I have once... : so you understand what MC is :)
-I have a... : That's fine!
-Art... : meh :P

-Psynergy:... : (see the space here ^ :P ) This is the sort of useful discussion I need to get my brain moving. Anyway, I probably will NOT add Scoop to GS MineCraft. Too much digging in the game for it to make sense ^.^;
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 25, March, 2014, 04:12:27 PM
Well, Scoop maybe could make minor sense if you could find creative ways to use it? Examples include possible cave-ins (If I remember, the Scorpion boss in one of the Deserts.), or water coming out of the ground like that one time in GS2...  But it might not be necessary for the Mod.

Lift could lift a block onto another block.
Parch could evaporate water. (Which I believe also melts ice pillars? But I can't remember.)
Pound could pound pillars down so you can open up new paths.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 25, March, 2014, 05:04:33 PM
Wow, you just solved one of my problems!

(I forgot Parch nixed Ice Pillars!)

Parch is now set to Required!
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 25, March, 2014, 06:46:31 PM
*Tests in-game to double check.*

Well, it gets rid of the puddle... but no luck with it when it's a pillar... Hm..

I thought there was a way to melt ice pillars, but oh well... maybe it wasn't a psynergy, though.



I do have a question, though... Couldn't you set some tile scripts to auto melt ice pillars when you walk on them? (For example, the area where you first enter the room.) I wouldn't know since I haven't modded MineCraft, like I said.


By the way, this topic would fit best in Creative Works. (Or, General Golden Sun.) Since this topic has little to do about hacking...
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 25, March, 2014, 07:30:47 PM
The pillars you see in the video ARE 'scripted' to melt after ~30 seconds [It just caused a TON of lag], I have since then nixed that functionality.


Also, who says I have to do this mod EXACTLY like Golden Sun? Current plans for Parch are to change Frost Pillars into Frost Puddles :)

updated OP.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 26, March, 2014, 04:58:58 PM
Okay, first of all I have played minecraft, but I stopped after like version 1.3 and started playing around version 1.2 beta. I didn't really like were it was going, and the new features and functions didn't encourage me to play any longer.

BUT, I really like what you're doing here Eli.  :happy:
My brother would like to help with testing (and I could perhaps help testing too) if that's possible.

I also got some ideas for the mod:
That's all I could come up for now. I hope it helps.

Oh and if you want, I can make some textures and things, if you tell me what you need. Do note that I take a LONG time to make those things sometimes.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 26, March, 2014, 05:50:54 PM
About the testing: read the bottom of this post.

(Eventually. Not a priority now, also, weapons are not going to be as big of a deal.)

(Easy to do. A very good chance I will do something like this.)

(I do not see this happening in the original sense. Perhaps something similar will arise......)

(Going to happen. Not a Priority now)

(Going to happen. Not a Priority now)

(I'm still working on this one....)


Testing: You might (or might not) know Robert Joe. I am pretty sure he is a member here. Anyway, he happens to have a router that can be port forwarded (I do not :( ) and I am working with him this mod.

Anyway, I am hoping to have this Saturday be a testing day. sometime between 2pm-10pm [CST]

(note: In order to test this you will need a legit copy of MineCraft :/)
[this mod is for the most recent forge]
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 29, March, 2014, 01:46:58 AM
Oh, Robert Joe. I guess I saw him here http://forum.goldensunhacking.net/index.php?topic=2286.0

I got a legit Minecraft account, donĀ“t worry.
In which version of Mincraft runs the version and what is the IP of the server?
And were can I download the mod itself. A google search yielded no results for me.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 29, March, 2014, 12:52:36 PM
Deleted this post
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 29, March, 2014, 02:08:10 PM
Updated the mod link!!! (now its on page 2 :P)
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 29, March, 2014, 02:56:03 PM
Okay Eli thank you.

If the server is aired I will very probably be there to test.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 29, March, 2014, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: Luna_blade on 29, March, 2014, 02:56:03 PM
Okay Eli thank you.

If the server is aired I will very probably be there to test.

Okay, well currently RJ and I are on Teamspeak (http://www.teamspeak.com/)
Teamspeak Server Address: 108.174.62.146:9992 (no Password)
Robert Joe and I are in the channel named Public under No Guts No Galaxy.


Robert Joe made a Teamspeak Server!!!!

Teamspeak Server Address: 108.88.84.136 (no password)



He is setting up the server right now.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 29, March, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
What do I have to do?
I can't connect to the IP you gave me, and I don't have teamspeak.
At least I got the mod working properly!
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 29, March, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
The address I gave you is for teamspeak :P

Robert Joe is having issues with his server. I'm doing a bug fix to try to help.

edit: if you join teamspeak, which I recommend, join this address, (RJ can't connect to his own server -_-; [I can though])
:108.174.62.146:9992
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 29, March, 2014, 04:53:07 PM
Note I had to update the mod, here is the new link: Link (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17356122/aurumsolus-1.7.2-Prelude.Prolog.PageThree.jar)

Robert Joe is *still* having some server issues. Sorry. (for some reason the server started Vanilla [I really need to figure out a different solution for this])
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 29, March, 2014, 05:33:46 PM
Server Address!!!
108.88.84.136:27787
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 29, March, 2014, 06:42:27 PM
here you go, the crash report as i stated it can be the mod or my shitty PC
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 29, March, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
It indeed was a bug with my code :D (the bug had to do with an even that called when you fell a large enough distance to hurt yourself)

(I have removed that code because I do not want that code :) )
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 31, March, 2014, 02:31:48 AM
The link to the mod file has been removed.

(I will add another link next weekend (though I plan on leaving it up if I get enough added this week))

Next testing day will be next Saturday (April 5th) from 2:00pm to 6:00pm [CST].
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Majora on 31, March, 2014, 06:43:02 PM
Looks pretty sweet, I'll play Minecraft from time to time, very relaxing game.
Have you considered adding Djinn
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Thunder-squall on 31, March, 2014, 06:48:35 PM
What would djinn do?  I'm not a minecraft player, so I don't know, but can people currently take goats out of their inventory and just plop them down?  Because ideally djinn would be NPCs which you could add to your inventory, talk with, and also equip.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Majora on 31, March, 2014, 09:01:09 PM
EDIT: Only just now read that you are indeed already thinking of Djinn, very good. Glad you're developing it for 1.7.2 as well, personally think that should be the go-to version for developers.

Yeah, they have lots of crazy mods for that game. There's one that adds hundreds of Pokemon in the game, all with custom models that conform to the game's general look.  Accurately replicates the classic battle and capture system, leveling and evolution, shiny capture rates, looks like it's pretty in-depth.

All sorts of NPC mods. Have one on a server myself and a few friends use. Check out the ridiculous aliens:
http://imgur.com/cPF21E6,Udv8pHT,1RDh7Dt,C5INLFU,SQEzCR1,o9MENKJ,Xq3V7kl,6q0FuWZ,3chy4QX,fVk24x8,Ppb6DvN,sE8tdjJ,2P8xdzM,CAFQWlJ,R1ybGgP,fZbBmV5,AwWG1YQ,iWLwuqv,HaaEftg,v23FgDW,4rWkNFl,byypJXM#7 (http://imgur.com/cPF21E6,Udv8pHT,1RDh7Dt,C5INLFU,SQEzCR1,o9MENKJ,Xq3V7kl,6q0FuWZ,3chy4QX,fVk24x8,Ppb6DvN,sE8tdjJ,2P8xdzM,CAFQWlJ,R1ybGgP,fZbBmV5,AwWG1YQ,iWLwuqv,HaaEftg,v23FgDW,4rWkNFl,byypJXM#7)

Can imagine Djinn would be a pretty cool addition.  
Could have Venus Djinn automatically ripen nearby crops and produce 'Ivy' items the player can plant at the foot of unclimbable cliffs, on which the Psynergy move "Growth" could be used to create a climbable rope system.  I think an existing mod named "Ropes++" has a similar feature going, could take a look at how it handles rope items, could be as simple as replacing its textures.

Mercury Djinn could freeze water blocks directly underneath them within a small radius, creating traversable platforms of ice for the player to walk upon. Could give them the ability to summon rain in the manner of the 'toggle downfall' command (could set it so torches are somehow temporarily put out during rainfall).

Mars Djinn could spew fire and create TNT-like explosions, and Jupiter Djinn could summon small 'Gusts' that dispel allotments of placable ivy that could be used to block and conceal things like doors and cave entrances.

Could implement a summoning system where you're able to summon the battle summons like Judgment and all that when you have the specified number of Djinn in your survival inventory.  All sorts of cool possibilities
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 04, April, 2014, 01:42:04 AM
I'm unable to help you test Saturday, but my brother may be of assistance.
He will post here under my name.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 04, April, 2014, 04:35:45 PM
due to taking way to long to figure this out (see video for more info) I am not doing testing this weekend.
However, I am happy to say that Move Psynergy is in the game now :D

Move Psynergy 99% (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNcZoe_y-UU&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 05, April, 2014, 01:43:09 AM
Okay understood.
BTW, that move psyenergy looks great!
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 10, April, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
I will be doing testing this Saturday (next week is pre-alpha week, meaning I will probably be pushing a new version out every day (might be a bit wonky on Tues. and Thurs. but otherwise should be cool))
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 12, April, 2014, 01:12:12 PM
Just use the standard Minecraft launcher and set it to 1.7.2 (and run it once)

Correct Minecraft Forge: Forge 1.7.2-1024 (http://adf.ly/673885/http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.7.2-10.12.0.1024/forge-1.7.2-10.12.0.1024-installer.jar)
(note: this is a .jar file,  ^^^^^^^^^^^,  if you are on windows and don't know/can't get the .jar to run: use this (http://adf.ly/673885/http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.7.2-10.12.0.1024/forge-1.7.2-10.12.0.1024-installer-win.exe))

After you have installed Forge, run Minecraft once (with your forge profile) and then go to the mods folder inside your .Minecraft folder.
(if you are on Windows, go to your search bar and type "%appdata% (ignore quotation marks))

Mod (page 5) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17356122/aurumsolus-1.7.2-Prequel.Prologue.PageFive.jar)

Teamspeak server address: 108.88.84.136

Minecraft Server address: 108.88.84.136:27787
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 12, April, 2014, 03:12:19 PM
Note: My server guy has placed a whole bunch of random crap around the world near spawn. sorry about that (you want to go to the sandstone building)
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 12, April, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
Could you please start an entire, new, fresh map? all the animals and other stuff are killing my PC
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 12, April, 2014, 04:14:23 PM
I am sorry to say but it appears that i cannot longer test, probably because of something that was added to the game (hint: minecraft realms options) as last time i tested i had no framerate problem and now gettin 1 fps is rare.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 12, April, 2014, 10:35:46 PM
can you play SSP?
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 13, April, 2014, 04:17:07 AM
no, there i also get about 0-1 FPS and that makes minecraft unplayable. I have also tried to optimize my FPS but it doesnt help at all, Jeb's new engine makes minecraft run 20 times slower.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 13, April, 2014, 03:18:19 PM
are you playing in Minecraft 1.7.2?
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Majora on 14, April, 2014, 08:58:47 AM
Had a problem a lot like that in 1.7.2 with a Miscellaneous Items mod, made the FPS drop to zero and consumed an endlessly increasing amount of memory to the point where the computer would have to be restarted in order to regain functionality.
Would happen whenever the world loaded up a chunk that contained a placed item from the mod. Would only ever have about a minute of usable gameplay before the computer would begin to seize up. Believe it had something to do with the mod's use of 3D models, was able to fix the problem by disallowing the use of 3D models in its configuration file.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 14, April, 2014, 10:26:15 AM
no, it is also happening in vanilla minecraft regardless of settings.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Majora on 15, April, 2014, 12:22:24 PM
Ah, could be a few things, might be conflicting with any other mods you're running, if any. It could also have affected one or several files vanilla runs in some way.

Try loading up a different world and see if the problem persists.
If it does, run the Golden Sun mod on its own without any other mods, see if that fixes the problem.
If that doesn't work, select a different version of Forge or whatever mod handler you're running on the Edit Profile page when you start up Minecraft, see if that improves performance at all.

If it's still buggy after all that, I'd move all your mods to a temporary folder for safe-keeping, reinstall Minecraft, then load up vanilla and see if the problem is still going. It most likely won't. Can then add mods back to your mod folder one by one to see which one is causing the issue.

I'd suggest adding the Golden Sun mod first and adding the other mods one by one after it, since it's still in development, and you clearly weren't having the problem before when running your other mods, if there are any others. Could just be an easily-fixed mid-development kink with the mod.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 23, April, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
just a heads up. My life has recently gotten quite complicated, and thus I have taken on another job. I am sorry to say, but the project is going to have to go on hold for a while. sorry guys :/
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Thunder-squall on 24, April, 2014, 12:32:20 AM
good luck.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Luna_blade on 24, April, 2014, 12:50:47 AM
@Eli Dacreach
I was starting to think that you moved the whole thing to reddit already..
And it's al right. I wasn't really able to play the mod at the moment.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 06, December, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
I finally have some free time on my hands again (maybe I should say consistent free time). So I am going to start modding.... again.

(Though this time I am staying away from Reddit until I have a more complete product *shivers*.
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: Dullahan1116 on 04, January, 2015, 02:17:11 AM
So I have made some good progress, and I am looking for people to help design and create dungeons( Shrines, Caves, Temples, Rocks, Lighthouses, Sanctumss, etc.)

Edit: in Minecraft (I am using MCEdit schematics, so I will be making new blocks, but we will design them in vanilla blocks)
Title: Re: Golden Sun Minecraft (its happening!) [but I need help]
Post by: MattCustovGaming on 26, April, 2015, 08:27:54 PM
Quote from: Fox on 25, March, 2014, 06:46:31 PM
I thought there was a way to melt ice pillars, but oh well... maybe it wasn't a psynergy, though.
Sorry for the obvious necropost, but I remember in GS1 there was that time in Bilibin cave where you move the torch to the ice pillar and it melts. Maybe Blaze does the same? (It's been so long since I've tested it. I've forgotten)