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The Community => Open Discussion => Topic started by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 23, October, 2009, 08:48:00 PM

Poll
Question: A possibilty in relocating forums soon? What do you think about Simple Machines?
Option 1: I like it, please, let us move there. votes: 0
Option 2: I like it, but please lets wait a while before moving again. votes: 0
Option 3: I like it, because it is open source. votes: 0
Option 4: No thanks, I'm tired of moving. votes: 1
Option 5: No thanks omgforum is better. votes: 0
Option 6: No thanks, I simply do not want to go there. votes: 0
Option 7: Nuetral Vote, I do not have an opinion. votes: 2
Option 8: Other- please post. votes: 0
Title: SMF
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 23, October, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
Tell me what you think about this open-source Forum.

Here, you can get your own host as long as it follows the requirements. Simple Machineshas two rules,

They are:

1. No modifying the copyright.

2. No redistributing without written premission.

Other than that, the rules that you will have to worry about are with the host and the Admin (Atrius ofcourse)


...

Usually it is best listingPros and Cons before making a final decision.

Pros:
-Open-source
-Free
-You can edit Post Count.
-You canaautomatically install third-part mods.
- Etcetera.

Cons:
- We will miss omgforum (ofcourse not really, we haven't been here long enough.)
-Atrius will have to go and take a while on setting it up.
- Charon might have to go and add a thousand smileys again.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Charon on 23, October, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
NO

I AM NOT ADDING THE SMILIES AGAIN

NO NO NO NO NO

D:<

Actually, we just moved, I'm not too fond of moving AGAIN. Although SMF is very reliable and is probably the best of the three we have...
Title: Smileys
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 23, October, 2009, 08:54:00 PM
Well, you do not have to add them all at one time.

You can do the 10 most wanted per day, or something.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Charon on 23, October, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
I guess we could try it. But I really don't agree because we just moved ._.

Another Archive, I guess XP
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 23, October, 2009, 10:13:00 PM
Ah!, okay.Well we can decide the new forums next year (if there is going to be one, but it is y'alls choice.), when it reaches the anniversary once AGAIN, and therefore that information for new features will be moved to the new forums that day.. and... well you get the idea...


EDIT: And if he does decide to do it one day, he has all this time to make it as perfect as it can be and surprise us all. (Aw, how nice!)
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Sajin on 24, October, 2009, 04:03:00 AM
I don't understand why people don't like omgforums. We just moved, now there's already "move again" thoughts? I think it's a waste of time (well, for Atrius and Charon at least). I think we should just remain here.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Atrius on 24, October, 2009, 09:33:00 AM
What if I were somehow able to copy all of the posts from the old forums onto the new ones?  Would that change anyone's minds?
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Charon on 24, October, 2009, 09:52:00 AM
Maybe... we have only been here for about 20 so days so it shouldn't be too hard.

Should I make another theme or should I just keep the mars one? I was thinking about doing Mercury... :3

Blue's a nice colour on the eyes, and the Mercury set/standby icons are easier to differentiate.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 24, October, 2009, 10:20:00 AM
Okay, with that, when you put a poll up for Which theme is best, I wonder if no one will vote Mars. I will probably vote Jupiter and Salanewt will probably vote Mercury.


And about the idea of grouping all theseposts, I like that. But also, I was trying to see if I would be able to upload smileys at Simple Machines... But it doesn't appear like it, or atleast, I do not know how. But creating the function would be possible too, I think?
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Charon on 24, October, 2009, 10:44:00 AM
Actually...

Wait, doesn't SMF have multiple theme support?
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 24, October, 2009, 10:53:00 AM
It sounds like it... But I will have to see if I can make any custom ones....


PROFILE -> MODIFY PROFILE -> LOOK AND LAYOUT

The first one is:

Current Theme.

I see 4 avialable themes.

Forum or Board Default (http://charleysdrpepper.x10hosting.com/index.php?action=theme;sa=pick;u=1;th=0;d9c73ab8=0c342a7901458c3a2dd92ab147f636c6)

SMF Default Theme - Core (http://charleysdrpepper.x10hosting.com/index.php?action=theme;sa=pick;u=1;th=1;d9c73ab8=0c342a7901458c3a2dd92ab147f636c6)

Classic YaBB SE Theme (http://charleysdrpepper.x10hosting.com/index.php?action=theme;sa=pick;u=1;th=2;d9c73ab8=0c342a7901458c3a2dd92ab147f636c6)

Babylon Theme (http://charleysdrpepper.x10hosting.com/index.php?action=theme;sa=pick;u=1;th=3;d9c73ab8=0c342a7901458c3a2dd92ab147f636c6)


EDIT: Ignore the links, I copied and pasted.



Edit again: Yes, you can add themes by simply downloading them and installing them.

ADMIN -> CONFIGURATION-> THEMES AND LAYOUT

It is recommended to Create a new theme with default layout (At the bottom) and go from there. (Click the link you see after the install.)


Knowing that you have used SMF before, you probably already knew this.




EDIT AGAIN!!!!!

You can upload smileys, I only forgot to put a check beside Enable customized smileys and save.


Edit: And you can give Global Moderator premission to manage smileys :)
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Sajin on 24, October, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
I agree with Salanewt, we should wait for some time. I bet most of us here still aren't used to omgforums. Also, if the problems seem like they are gone, no point in hating/disliking this forum, right?
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Atrius on 24, October, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
There's no point in waiting till we're used to omgforums to move really.  Why spending the time to get used to it before moving somewhere unfamiliar again?

Besides, I've been tinkering with a tool that automatically downloads & converts topics from the old forums to a format that can be inserted into an SMF database, and the results are promising.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Salanewt on 24, October, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
Well, I will support another move as long as it is hopefully better than;

OMG:

Omitting
Members for
Good

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Charon on 24, October, 2009, 01:59:00 PM
I'm currently experimenting with an SMF forum. I'll post a link later.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 24, October, 2009, 02:03:00 PM
In my opinion, it may be better than OMG, the onlyproblem I canthink of is, the SMILEY setup...... .... I can't seem to see the other sets when posting.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Rolina on 24, October, 2009, 06:59:00 PM
I do NOT want to move all my topics again!  I have discussed this several times, that it is VERY annoying to redo a whole wall of text, even with copy+paste.  Transferring topics is NOT fun, and guess who's gonna have to do it when we move again?

GUESS WHO?  THE SAME PERSON AS LAST TIME, THAT'S WHO!

Jeez, I didn't even want to move the first time for the same reason I don't wanna move now - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  The annoying DNS errors everyone seems to get are annoying, but that's it.  They don't make the place broken, just kind of irritating when it happens.

Please, I'm tired of moving.  We JUST moved, I don't wanna do it again.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Salanewt on 24, October, 2009, 07:04:00 PM
Hm... I partially agree, and partially disagree with you Role.

Anyway, if you do not want to move topics, then I can do it.

As for DNS errors... Not sure how to respond to that, so...

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Atrius on 24, October, 2009, 07:15:00 PM
Quote from: RoleI do NOT want to move all my topics again!  I have discussed this several times, that it is VERY annoying to redo a whole wall of text, even with copy+paste.  Transferring topics is NOT fun, and guess who's gonna have to do it when we move again?

GUESS WHO?  THE SAME PERSON AS LAST TIME, THAT'S WHO!

Wrong, they'll already be there waiting for you this time.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Rolina on 24, October, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
...Really?  You really mean it?


:heart: :heart:

Okay, if I don't have to do all that work all over again, then I'm game!
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Zach on 24, October, 2009, 08:39:00 PM
Well,.......I guess I don't mind moving if that's the case <.<
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 24, October, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
It's almost like moving out of your house to find a better house, now that I think about it.

I have deicided to go in to Story Mode:

We could say that Role knows if she moves out of her house she has to make enough money to find anther house, this is in comparison to moving to a different forum and moving all her topics.

And Salanewt comes along and decides he could give her te money, this is in comparison to moving the topics for her.

But obviously this toim, Atrius invites them to a better house and let them stay for free. This is in comparison to the topics already being there.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Charon on 25, October, 2009, 12:11:00 AM
I think I'll wait for Atrius to make a SMF forum.

That way, we can experiment, and he can be the "head Admin". I could also work on themes.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Salanewt on 25, October, 2009, 12:46:00 AM
Eeeeeeeeeeek! Moving... AGAIN? Noooooooo!

Well, I might not have any problems at the NEW new forum, but I rarely have problems here now... Aw...

We should wait for at least a year or two before moving again.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Salanewt on 25, October, 2009, 01:41:00 AM
Quote from: Salanewt... has... enough money...

Hehe... I really like that statement once I filter it, lol.

Have a nice day.

Oh yes, to remain on topic... So everyone is ready for the new move?
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Zach on 25, October, 2009, 07:28:00 PM
so when can we expect the move?
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Atrius on 25, October, 2009, 08:12:00 PM
When the new forums are ready.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Zach on 25, October, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
ahh i see. for some reason, I assumed it would be in a few days o.O
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 25, October, 2009, 09:07:00 PM
Or you could expect two weeks, some people may have their "lazy" moments and skip a day on working on it for example.... Edit: Not saying that Atrius is like that though.

Anyway, if you find something to do and not think about it much it will come quickly as a surprise.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Atrius on 25, October, 2009, 11:09:00 PM
It's difficulty to copy posts over from forums when you don't have direct access to their databases.  I have to write a program that downloads the topic pages as though it's a guest viewing the forum, parses their HTML source code to pull out the messages, and converts them into SQL command format to be inserted into the database of the new forums.

So far it's only managing to grab & convert about 86% of the topics from the old forums, and I haven't even started tweaking the HTML parser to work on these ones.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Rolina on 26, October, 2009, 01:32:00 AM
Quote from: charleysdrpepperIt's almost like moving out of your house to find a better house, now that I think about it.

I have deicided to go in to Story Mode:

We could say that Role knows if she moves out of her house she has to make enough money to find anther house, this is in comparison to moving to a different forum and moving all her topics.

And Salanewt comes along and decides he could give her te money, this is in comparison to moving the topics for her.

But obviously this toim, Atrius invites them to a better house and let them stay for free. This is in comparison to the topics already being there.

No, it's more like - Role didn't want the better house.  Role KNEW that the current house was fine, and that there was no need for a better one.  But they dragged Role kicking and screaming to the new house, which - might I add - turned out to have some SERIOUS mold problems.  Donning a heppa filter mask thingy, Role went and made the house nice and tidy, moving a bunch of things to make it feel more like home.  Sure, it was nicer (despite being mold-infested), but she still didn't think they needed to move in the first place.  Now they want to move over to yet ANOTHER house, and Role, having done all that effort, and even cleaning up a bit of the mold (I'm not getting DNS errors as much now...), is terrified that she's going to be dragged YET AGAIN to a place she sees no reason in moving over to.  She accuses the other roommates of suffering from "grass is greener on the other side" mentality, and threatens physical violence if they keep it up.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 26, October, 2009, 03:29:00 PM
That is nice, now you are wanting me to make an actual "fanfic" or hack on it, although I doubt I'd be good at fanfics...

(But invisionfree and omgforum does have their own rules right? so wouldnt it be more like a hotel or something?, and now this third place is about going on Atrius's new land....)
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Atrius on 26, October, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
Yes, the new forums are going to be on my own web space too instead of a free forum service.
Title: Re: SMF
Post by: Salanewt on 26, October, 2009, 05:11:00 PM
Oh well. As long as... What was I going to say again?

Anyway, as long as you can make up your mind this next move, and not change it again, please.

Have a nice day.