I've noticed that there's not much talking going on in this section, so i've made this subject so we can talk about the characters, the places, the items etc. so here is somewhere to discuss these things.
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Hm...
Well, for one, I honestly thought that this game should have been longer, it was too fun!
Second, they could have programmed more territory to explor (I think). I like exploring in every game that I play, and it would have been fun to go to many of these other areas.
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They should have done the optional cutscene thing like the Tales series does, it would have given the characters (especially Piers and Isaac and Co.) a lot more personality. The guy with the most personality out of Isaac's troup in the second game is Ivan. For example:
Wise One: "I cannot interfere with the actions of mankind."
Jenna: "If you can't interfere, then how about getting out of the way so we can light the beacon!"
Ivan: "Ooh, good one, Jenna!"
Yep, and the girl with the most personality, as you pointed out, is Jenna.
Also, they should have had the characters interact more in a longer mini-quest.
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i think they should have made miniquests that swap characters instead as just playing as felix and jenna.
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Yeah, actually, he's right in a way. I would have liked it if you could do it the same way they do in the Tales series. That way, you could have Jenna still be at the front of the party throughout the game. It would also be interesting if what people said to you differed depending on who you had at the front of your party.
i believe they should have made it so the first person in your party is the sprite you play as, except for cutscenes.
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I'd just like it if they made overworld sprites for all players.
I wanna walk around as Ivan... or Isaac in TLA for that matter.
id like to play as alex, he is awesome
Well, IIRC, Atrius will be making a patch so that - provided the sprites are there - the controllable sprite will be the far-left member of the party (aka first member).
Awesome, that'd be good!
But there aren't many sprites for other players except for walking...
No, all the O8 seem to have all the necessary sprites - there's a walking, running, climbing sprite, etc...
Makes me think that at one point, they actually planned on doing this.
The only exception is the going up/down stairs sprites.
I also noticed that Rope walking is missing too. Anyway, Atrius is making a patch for this? I will definitely restart the hack that I have not worked on in months to use this patch.
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i think we should be able to play as any sprite with an almost complete sprite list
You'll have to make the animations yourself.
@Squizzy: ... and just how do you expect to do THAT?
The running animations for all characters except Jenna, Felix, and Isaac is just their walking animation sped up. Only Felix has a rope-climbing animation. I think there might be a scene where Felix, Jenna, Sheba, and Piers are climbing stuff, so Sheba and Piers might have climbing animations, but then again, they might not.
From what I can see, only Jenna, Isaac, and Felix have one.
except for that elfish sprite, dunno why he's there
Elfish...as in link?
To be honest with all of you, I doubt that the elf is Link (it is probably just a coincidence that they look similar). If he were Link, then why are there female and child elf sprites, but no other male elf sprites? I am sure that they would have been useful somewhere actually, like on a new island where you can't currently access (north of Imil or around Tundaria).
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it may have been a proxian, alot of them have pointed ears and such.
I think you are right. Most likely beta Proxians.
Still though, I am sort of against the belief that stuff that is made should not be used in the game. Of course, I displike it even more when something is there, but not fully programmed (although it is fun discovering and editing this stuff).
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What is the difference between beta and normal proxians?
Well, it is just a guess for the being beta Proxians because of their ears.
Anyway, the word "beta" is used to describe something as being created, or a trace of something unused, but never seen in the final product. A good example would be the crab enemy sprite in Golden Sun. It is there, but it was never used in the published version of the game.
Another example is Paragoomba in Mario and Luigi, but that is another topic entirely.
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cool! i wonder wich other npcs they didn't put in...
It would have been cool if they added secondary games for after you beat the main game.
Like for example, "Doomed Mission" where you start the game in Sol Sanctum with Saturos, Menardi, and two soldiers, named Troop1 and Troop2, in your party. Then early on, you lose Troop1 and Troop2 and then get Felix a bit later. You then get Alex, and Sheba should you choose to use her, though she's at level 5 when you get her and that's rather late in the game, so she's rather useless, though in most scripted battles Alex, Felix and Sheba don't participate. In the midway point, you get to play the Final Battle against Isaac, then as Fusion Dragon against Isaac's party (you automatically WILL lose this battle, but just see how many of them you can take out before you die). Then you get Agatio and Karst instead, with Alex there for part of the journey. At the end, you get to watch the battle of Felix vs. the Flame Dragons. Yes WATCH, not PLAY, as Agatio and Karst weren't in control of their bodies really at that point.
Or, maybe a second game as Isaac's party, where you play through the period after the first game, but before Isaac joins Felix's party.
And for my final idea, "Dark Desires", where you play as Alex and the occasional party members he gets along the way. For most of the game you get Alex as your ONLY party member, but he slowly throughout the story gets items that give him additional turns, mimicking the effect of having multiple party members.
Ooh, I like all of these ideas! I like the continuing the game as Isaac and co., but then there is the time when they join up with Felix, so... Also, playing as Alex is probably the best idea. Who knows? Perhaps we could even give him a girlfriend, and he just wants Alchemy to impress her... that would be odd though.
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Actually, I'd argue that they were supposed to just be elfs. Think about it - GS is the DEFINITION of traditional fantasy. It's got pretty much every fantasy stereotype present, SAVE FOR ONE.
Yeah, that's right. ELVES. It's got Lycans, a form of magic (psynergy), dragons, faries, warriors, mages, and overpowered swords of great devastations. Not to mention the emphasis on the elements. It's traditional fantasy down to the T, save Elves. They probably planned to have an elfish town... perhaps it was swapped with Garoh, however?
Yeah, I can believe that. The Elf thing would make more sense than Proxians, although both do have a legitimate excuse as to why the Elves are there. Who know? Maybe the elves were even planned as citizens of the long-living Lemurians? Lol.
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Alternatively, it could be that Lemuria took their place. The themes between Lemuria and the elves are very similar, if you look at traditional roles that the elves take. They're a long-lived race that is slowly, but surely, dying out, and is very stagnant compared to what the race was like in its prime. Basically, it could be that they replaced a race - the elves - with a civilization - Lemuria.
Either approach - the non-human, or the thematic approach, seems somewhat logical.
Yeah... I actually prefer your new theory over the last two now, and it makes sense (also, because Piers would not fit in for a city of elves (which in turn belong on land in my opinion, not at sea)).
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Remember, it looked like they were going to have Alex be team member 4 until they decided to make him the big bad. He even has a second, unused profile pic. It could be that it was going to be elves until then, then they got the idea to make it a Lemurian.
i still think they should have made miniquests that let you control different characters. it would have made the game much more interesting. it would have been awesome to be alex or one of the other antagonists.
Hm... It would be neat to play as an antagonist, but the mini-quests would normally not work like that, in my opinion.
A different idea, using your thoughts: How about, a complete story hack? You get to control the protagonists for parts of the game, and then it switches, allowing you to level up both the good and bad characters. The only problem is that it might be hard to get the enemies you fight as either team (if both teams fight) to be the same as the ones that you worked on, instead of the preset characters. Eventually though, the two teams would have a final fight. The team that wins will determine how the end of the plot happens.
For example... If Isaac beats Saturos, the lighthouses are not lit. If Saturos beats Isaac, the lighthouses are lit (something like that). Of course, before the battle, it would force you to pick the strongest team. If you were to lose as Isaac, or win as Saturos, the outcome would be the same anyway. A good script to look at is the script that disables you from going to a Priest/healer if you lost to Agatio and Karst, and another one could be when you get a character. We could just make scripts that makes characters leave, and then their stats are changed for when you fight them/get them back. This way, you could fight one of them, and their stats will be the same as when you get t control them again... And this might now be off topic.
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Edit: The only problem with the script changing a character's details is that you might lose stats or items instead of gain... So perhaps the script could just add boosts to the amounts of items, currency, and items instead? For example, when you lose a character, the have 1 potion, and 5 luck. When you get to use them again, they have 2 potions and 7 luck?
Mini-quests don't work like that? How about Castlevania? There are some of those where you can control baddies. How about some Fire Emblem games with multiple storylines? It was merely an attempt at an original and interesting idea.
salanewt, you weren,t getting off topic this topic is about anything to do with the second golden sun game.
You're one to talk. The only reason you made this topic was because there was nothing being talked about. Thus, there IS no topic to follow... The only think keeping this from being dragged into the GD is that it's GS2 oriented.
GD?
General Discussion, another, more common name for Open Discussion.
The only reason why I said that I might have been getting off topic was because that whole paragraph was a hack/plot idea, lol.
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oh....
I've noticed that there's an ancient civilisation for almost every element except mars, does anyone know why?
venus-ankhol ruins
mercury-lemuria
jupiter-anemos
Well, perhaps there is one for Mars, but they have not introduced it yet in the Golden Sun series.
Other than that, I have no idea why.
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anemos should come back down in GS DS.
In GS DS probably we'll know what really happened to Anemos and where did it came from.
Maybe on a side-quest of some sort?
looking forward to it.
Arguably, Prox is the Mars civilization. It's not like we have any evidence to some other civilization that embraced the Mars element. Also, I don't think Anemos should come down in GSDS... with the power of alchemy restored, it'd be much easier for them to keep it floating... Perhaps in a sequel, when they feel that they have to return, but at the moment, they've probably got Hyper-Advanced Alchemical Technologies, so they'd not want to introduce them before Weyard is ready for them, for fear of the return of the abuse of alchemy.
I forget... Was it established that they had anything to do with Alchemy's seal, or why it was sealed?
Also, Prox could be considered the Mars civilization, but they refer to themselves as a clan, and it seems like their buildings and technology are normal-ish, like in Vale.
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No, but it's been theorized that they were responsible. Weyard's symbolism isn't exactly like ours - Sol seems to symbolize Alchemy in Weyard, not daytime like it does in our world. So then, why is Luna regarded as the opposite? This is ESPECIALLY true since supposedly Anemos is supposedly Luna... As such, since Luna opposes Sol (and thus, Alchemy), symbolism suggests that Luna is the Seal Upon or Absence Of Alchemy. Since it's heavily implied that Anemos is Luna, that leads us to assume that Anemos probably had something to do with it.
However, this is all speculation. Unless Word of God confirms it (read: Unless Camelot says that's the case), it's not exactly provable.
@Prox comment: yeah, that's the only reason I said that, too. The Anemos are known to be Jupiter, Ankhol are known to be Venus, Lemuria are Mercury. All of these are ancient civilizations. Nothing is mentioned of an ancient Mars civilization, but there IS a Mars Clan, so we could simply assume that they could be an Ancient Civilization, to complete the set. Again, unless Word of God confirms it, though, all we can do is speculate.
there is quite a large chance that mars was quite an advanced civilisation because they clearly tell us that their civilisation is dying and isn't as vibrant as it used to be, so it is possible that the mars clan was once a great civilisation. but that would meen that there is two mercury civilisations, lemuria and imil. except imil's adepts are few and don't know what psyenergy is until you tell them.(not including alex)
But I thought that Mia knew (since she guessed correctly that they were from Vale), and it was Ivan who Isaac and Garet informed... I really have to play the games again.
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That would be neat too, but it might make gameplay a bit odd (unless we were to choose out sprites at the beginning of the game, before we start playing).
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They told Mia they were from Vale. She replied asking if they were Healers from Vale. But they were warriors...
Oh yeah, so she did not know that her healing power was called psynergy either? Wow, where do these clueless adepts come from? :happy:
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almost every adept you meet doesn't know what psyenergy is such as
the three adepts of gaia rock
the lycanthropes
eoleo
that weird baby in contigo
master poi
the master that gives you force (i cant remember his name)
The list goes on and on, they need to send them an instruction manual. sheesh
woops, actually, i dont know about eoleo and that kid from contigo.
Oh yeah, that makes sense. It could be a regional issue? Except for the fact that Proxians also know about psynergy... Hm...
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maybe merchants and travellers told prox. by mechants i mean people like master hammet. even the lemurians said they used to traid with the outside world.
Possibly. After all, that would make sense as to why they both learned of psynergy. However, some group of people had to decide who that was, so was it initially in Vale (after all, someone could have told them earlier as well, like when Isaac was a baby or something)?
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maybe some weird person came up with the name and told everyone the power was called psyenergy.either that, or the wise one came up with the name.
I like that idea.
I still say that it would have been nice to control Isaac and co. for parts of the second Golden Sun before Jupiter Lighthouse (like switching plot).
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yes, I have noticed that. it is possible that she came from anemos, but that would mean anemos is sort of orbiting around weyard. and weren,t the people of anemos giants, or am I thinking of a different game?
Switching plots, Salanewt, tat sounds like an excellent idea, almost reminds me of M&L: Bowser's Inside Story. (Switching between Bowser & Mario/Luigi)
Anyway, that makes me feel like making a remake on of the first two Golden Sun games, but instead of GBA, do it for the DS, since you get two screens. However, I probably won't actually make it,... but nice idea though.
Yeah... Ooh! We might be able to work on it when Golden Sun DS comes out... Yahoo!
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that clock that's counting down to the release is driving me mad, why can't it end!!!
If it ends too soon, then the game won't come out. However, if someone speeds it up quickly enough...
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The "Sheba is an anemos" theory does have a lot of merit. Many more people subscribe to it than then "Sheba is an alien invader" theory. Myself included.
What clock? There's no clock counting anything down. There's no release date to count down to! At least wait until E3, we'll probably get a date then.
But there is a clock that passes time, not set to stop. We do not know the hour or the day at which Golden Sun DS will be released, but we can guess (I have my vote for some time in February).
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What good is a clock that cannot properly tell time? You're effectively saying that the clock exists, it just lacks a minute, second, or even hour hand.
No, I am not saying that. I am just saying that we do not know when those hands will point to the release of Golden Sun DS because there is no release date.
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Exactly, thus, there are no hands. You have a clock that cannot tell time.
You are looking at this from the wrong approach. Yes, the Clock of Golden Sun DS has no hands yet, but not the clock that ticks as life goes on. I am saying that ther eis an invisible clock that will eventually point at every event in the world. Without a release date for Golden Sun DS, we can not give it its own clock, nor can we predict when the hands of the Universal Clock will hit the hour that Golden Sun DS is released.
So, you are partially right, except that I am talking about an invisible universal clock, not Golden Sun DS' clock.
And we are a bit off topic now. Anyway, I still say that Camelot should have used all of the unused enemies.
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I'm looking at it from the correct approach. You're the one looking at it Bass Ackwards. Unless you're all clairvoyant, that 'universal clock' really doesn't matter in the here and now.
Um... B@#$ ackwords? Odd way of putting it.
Well, pretend that both clocks are not related at all, and that the Golden Sun DS clock does not even exist yet. True, that Universal Clock barely matters right now, but it can be used for the date of other events.
And now we are really off topic. It would be nice to be able to even add our own monsters in without having to edit them... Better yet, more summons, and a trip down Gaia Falls.
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It's a joke on the phrase "@#$ Backwards", if you couldn't tell. Though, that phrase may just be a regional one, so it didn't translate well.
Anywho, so then... Sheba...
Anemos, or Alien Invader?
Yep, which is why I bolded "@#$". Also, that is indeed a reginal one, so it is the first time that I have heard of it.
I think she could be from the Anemos, or perhaps they managed to invent invisible flying Canoes, and they dropped her. I mean, a drop from that high up would kill her, even more likely as a baby.
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They said she fell from the sky. They never said that she wasn't inside of something.
Think of it this way... she could be Weyard's Superman! ...er... woman... whatever... But since the Golden Sun has been lit, she now absorbs its rays and BAM! SuperSheba action!
That could make sense. Also, for falling our of the sky, I was saying that perhaps people who here in the canoe dropped her and then... Meh.
Yeah, she could be that strong, except for the fact that she is never my best character when I play (although she is up there). Then again, she did survive when she fell of of Venus Lighthouse, so did Felix, so...
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Of course she wasn't strong yet. She never received light from the Golden Sun. It's those rays of golden light from Sol that gave Superman his powers, so the same is true with Sheba. Without the aid of the Golden Sun, she's just a normal person.
But what if she is a normal person anyway? Actually, aren't all adepts abnormal in ways?
Also... Superman is the flying guy with the red cape, right?
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Yes, the guy in blue pajamas, a red cape, and wears red underwear on the outside. Hopefully, Sheba won't have such a stupid costume.
Well, if she keeps the same clothes on all the time, she probably will not. So, if Sheba gets a nice costume, what shall we give the other characters (since they will surely be a bit stronger as well, especially since Isaac had the Mars Stone, which was why Alex did not get psynergy)?
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Yeah, apparently Superman has laser vision as well. Pretty lame if you ask me.
Wait, that gives me an idea... if Isaac has part of the golden sun within him (thanks to the power of the mars star), then does SuperSheba get her powers from Isaac? And... in what way?
One word...: AWKWARD!
Yes, awkward, but calls for a good hack that is required!
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I don't see how stuff like... that... is considered a "good hack".
Well, not literally taking that idea and using it for the hack, but considering it might help.
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SuperSheba maybe, but I never liked Sheba all that much. Ninja Jenna is way more useful. Even Ninja Sheba would be pretty weak.
And Role's idea was just... well... creepy.
In a way, I suppose it was.
But wait, if Sheba draws power from Isaac, wouldn't he be able to do the same? Cool, Isaac and Sheba team up to fight crime!
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Reminds me of the Wonder Twins o.O
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Yes, awkward, but calls for a good hack that is required!
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Are you suggesting we make a Golden Sun eroge?
Eroge? Please inform me.
Also, a hack would be neat, heehee.
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....An eroge is also known as "porno games" in the english dubs of anime.
Ew, when did I ever suggest that?!
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Apparently you didn't get what the Awkward thing implied. Suggesting we make a hack of it suggests that we make an Eroge, or Erotic Game. I'm NOT for that, I'm sorry. And if you make one and post it here, you WILL get yourself banned for life.
Oh... OH! EW, sorry about that! I just thought that Isaac would be in a coma or something, and Sheba was draining from him. I did not think of anything erotic when I mentioned a hack idea, nor would I want to.
No, my plan for the hack was that the characters would share their power because being that close to the Golden Sun's energy affected them, so if one dies, they all start to suffer. As I said: when did I ever mention anything erotic for a hack?
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You did, you just didn't realize it. Wow, your mind is too innocent...
But, as they say, the more innocent a mind is, the more enjoyable it is to corrupt it! :heart:
Who says that? Well, you should have met me before I moved to Toronto (and back). I thought that all of the "fruit-talk" in class was about fruit, even though it is supposed to be, right? Then again, I only started going on the Internet a lot within the past few years.
I still wonder why that one kid asked me to BBQ my dog. Oh well.
Anyway, I had nothing erotic in mind, but rather like a spiritual/psynergetic bond between all of the main characters. If one gets weak, the others start to as well (for example, one loses 100 HP, and the others that are out on the battle field lost about 10HP).
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Welcome to the interwebs, enjoy your stay. To the left you'll see Anonymous and the /b/tards, a group largely responsible for raeping your childhood memories and corrupting your soul. Whether you like it or not, you will soon call them friends. To the right are a horde of trolls. Please, don't feed the trolls.
Smooth introduction, Role. Real smooth.
I've been lulzing at that for over a minute now.
That is kind of funny. Also, just so you know... This is the first forum that I have ever joined (and stayed with). I normally tend to drop out of forum places after at least a few hours, if I join them at all.
*Looks to right*
And where are the goblins if the trolls are over there?
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...Sala... you mean to tell me you don't know what a troll is?
Are you talking about the fictional monsters, people who insult for no reason on the Internet, or the person who I once called "dad"?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
So one part of what I said was correct? Phew.
Okay, time to find a character. Surprisingly, I have very few games that are not related to the larger Nintendo figures, or to Final Fantasy (many more games for Zelda and Mario/Yoshi than Final fantasy, but I still have a few).
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We are quite a bit off topic now, lol.
i think the golden sun should have made isaac, felix and the others into universal adepts.(adepts that can use all elements)
That woul dbe a neat idea, but a bit odd for a balanced team of four elements, since there would be one character who can act like almost all of the others (even more than one character).
Unless you mean them all. That would be kind of neat, but a bit odd for strategy (and could make the class system harder). It will be worth a shot if you can do it though.
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No, I think universal adepts shouldn't exist, period. The only one who could possibly use all the elements is Alex, who actually bathed in the light of the golden sun (thus, more or less becoming a walking talking stone of sages). Isaac, although he has part of the power within him, only has a small fraction of it, so although it could empower him, I don't think that he actually has the ability to cast multiple elements.
yeah, alex has almost unlimited power and almost unlimited life but alex somehow messed it up by trying to destroy the wise one.
That's just goes to show you - don't get cocky when you get loads of power. That sets you up to be pwned in ten seconds flat. Got a new super move? Great, but don't just try to use it to overwhelm your foe, because your foe will just pwn you since you're just plain not used to this new super move and its mechanics.
bummer for alex though...
Yeah... just because you got a new uber power, doesn't mean you mastered how to use it yet. You'd think with all his xanatos gambiting, he'd have known better, but...
yeah.
now just for no reason what are some of the god-like people in golden sun 2 i only know a few
poseidon
gabomba
wise one
serpent
Hard to say, excluding almost all of the summons. We know of those four non-summon characters, and... Wow, there are not many, are there?
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yeah, and two of them die. i think greenpeace should step in because they are an endangered species.
You know my position on endangered species. If you're weak enough as a species to become endangered, maybe you just got stuck on the bad end of the gene pool. Sucks to be you. Should you die, not my problem.
Also, Greenpeace, though they used to be pretty good and respectable as an organization, are anything BUT that now.
Yeah, limited gene pool or hunted to extinction, they should still live (if too mnany die, then we all suffer). However, we have a topic for that, so it would be funny if Golden Sun had an environmental organization, and would send someone for you to fight if you train on too many monsters... Hehehehe.
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Golden Sun doesn't, but Final Fantasy Tactics A2 actually DOES. I forget what they call themselves exactly, but it's basically a Monster Protection Agency.
Oh cool! Yeah, I should get that game. I wanted it more last Christmas, but I got a different Final Fantasy (which turned out to be good, until I was beating it for a third time in a row). Now I have another idea for my Superstar Saga hack (of which I will upload a video by... This weekend?). That is a bit out of topic though.
It would certainly be nice if Golden Sun were to ask you for the time when you first start, so you could have day and night as you play in the game (similar effect as seen near Garoh and Kibombo, but all the time).
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If something like that exists, it'd be in GSDS. There's no time-keeping device in GS or for the GBA, so we'd not be able to do it.
That is true. It could be possible in the future, looking at GBC's Pokemon Crystal, but might be extremely hard right now (the game would have to keep the time in its save game). Hopefully, they do have it in Golden Sun DS.
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maybe they will make a remake of gstla
That would be neat, but better if they combine the two games in one, and include the sequences that you do not see in the first two (like Isaac's adventure when not with Felix in The Lost Age, etc.), not to mention upgraded graphics.
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i quite liked the old graphics
Oh yes, they are pretty good. I am just assuming that Golden SUn DS might have better graphics, since the previous games have a history of good graphics.
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we can only hope that's the case
now back to the topic, does anyone know how to get into anemos inner sanctum? i'm having a ton of trouble.
Yep. You need all of the djinn to get in. There should be a teleport ring in the middle of... Forget the name, but the town where Isaac and co. join your team (in Contigo). Once you teleport (some progess in Mars Lighthouse is required), then you have to go to each section of the room. If you have all of the djinn of one element, then you can light up a certain section. All of the sections must be lit for you to continue.
However, this almost hints that there are not supposed to be any other djinn that exist in Weyard (storywise), even the dummies are not supposed to count.
Have a nice day.
I disagree. I think it's the minimum amount of power required to handle the area. A safeguard of sorts against weaker adepts accidentally walking in and getting slaughtered. Now, it just so HAPPENED that the number corresponded to the amount of djinn in the two games. But think about it.
Could you have possibly beaten Dullahan without all those djinn? Even with a summon rush strategy, you'll probably be using every last one of them.
thanx, i got in and defeated him. it took me an hour with summoning, healing and attacking because i made him superstrong with atrius' editor. i made him strong because i didn't think you could fight him. how stupid could i be......
You don't have to MAKE him strong, he already is.
i made him stronger than he already was, i tend to do that alot. i even did it to dire wolf because i barely ever encountered him. VERY BAD MISTAKE.
also, does anyone know how to get to the star magician?
Dood WHAT THE HELL? oh very well then. To get to Star Magician go to Treasure Isle and in the last room
there's a summon tablet and wierd dood with a pointy hat he's the Star Magician. (you're gonna have to find out how to get to the last room yourself ^-^)
Role? Yeah, you are probably right (it could be boring to use the same old djinn in Golden Sun DS), but I did beat Dullahan with only about half of them (if I recall correectly). I give my strongest the dinn who almost completely protexts everyone for one turn, as they keey using strong summons, and then I use Shade to make one person invisible. When this party is dead shortly afterwards, I use the second party to do almos the same, with Mia healing. Most of the time, I use about 1/2-3/4 of my djinn.
Have a nice day.
Oh yes, Squizzy? You will also need Grind, and I forget if you need Lift.
HAZE is the one that makes people invisible. Shade is another wall djinni like Flash, but not as powerful.
And yes, you do need Lift.
And consider the fact that you need to use most of your djinn at least to summon. And technically, even those you don't summon with get "used", because they're busy boosting your stats.
the only reason i dont know how to get to him is because i usually do the bare minimum and skip past the miniquests.
now that i have found him i think it was a complete waste of time.
he gives you Azul when you defeat him, a powerful water summon, if you can beat your overpowered Dullahan than you should be able to beat the Star Magician easily
I remember fighting Dullahan once.
I didn't get very far.
I tried fighting Dullahan whitout summons, Since i never used them once. and I got far enough, but I could not make it. maybe I was not enough strong.
OK, I never win once.....
I've won regularly and then once without summons (it was a challenge, let me tell you)
Indeed, took me several attepts. I think formula sage, Charon, and djinn storm are his worst attacks.
His True Collide can be a pain in the @#$.
Your right that Alex rocks!
:Alex:
I posted this in another form but it was not the form for the question. but :um:
ok in both games there is only 3 weapons with this.... umm....... thing..
well just look down below..
Gaia Blade :Venus:
Crystal Rod :Mercury:
Fire Brand :Mars:
if you go to the stats menu and press the a button 2 times it will bring up your main equip items
and to the right of the weapons listed above there is eather > :Venus: :Mars: :Mercury:
and they are the only weapons in both games to do this.
i think i found an armor like this some where but i am not to sure...
plz reply Thanks
O and yes :Alex: Alex rocks and i think he is in GS DS.