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1  The Community / Introductions / Re: Introduction on: Yesterday at 03:22:23 AM
Hello, everyone! I'm new to the forums. I'm a huge fan of the Golden Sun series, and I found out about this forum while googling for revamps of the GBA games. I'm really interested in playing mods from users here. I'm still confused how all of it works, but I'm really excited to replay revamps for Golden Sun. Have a good one!
I personally recommend Caledor's works.  It's well worth the playthrough to experience all the changes in the games - The Lost Age in particular.
2  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 15, 2017, 08:58:25 AM
We're just not going to agree on this then.
3  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 14, 2017, 10:56:59 AM
Eh, easiest thing to do is make Iris useful - a 6-7 djinn cost Iris does that.  At double the cost, it's pointless.
4  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 13, 2017, 09:44:15 PM
Whereas I fundamentally disagree - if a reward is useless, then it's not a worthy reward, especially if the price of the reward is facing a boss as cheap as Dullahan.  Why bother fighting it?  Once you know how pointless the reward is, then there's no point in even bothering unless you're doing a completionist run.  Might as well have been given a crumpled piece of paper saying "you beat dullahan, good for you", since that would be equally as useful as a reward.
5  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 13, 2017, 04:15:21 AM
But see, here's the thing; you need to beat Dullahan to GET to Iris!  Is it really OP when you don't have it for the guy who's toughest anyway?
But it's not.  It costs too much to be useful.  If it was OP, then it'd be too cheap for the effect.  What good is a prize that's never worth using?
6  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 12, 2017, 09:52:26 PM
I think Iris' secondary effect is straight up excessive.  It's almost like they made it that powerful to justify the extreme cost.  I'm fine turning it into a front row only percentile recovery.  Perhaps drop revival effects for PP recovery.  How's 50% HP recovery and 12.5% PP Recovery sound for a 7 cost summon?
7  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 12, 2017, 08:17:18 PM
Honestly, the turn gating is something I disagree with.  There are better ways to handle summons - one of the biggest things you could do is basically make enemies faster so that summon rushing can be punished.  Plus, this basically makes any summon that costs more than 5-6 even more useless than they already are.  Balancing summons would need to go both ways, because some just can't justify their cost.
8  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 11, 2017, 06:07:27 PM
Level helps when it comes to pacing out the game.  IMO, that's where it's most useful.  "What level do I expect the party to be in this area?  I'll make foes be around that level."  Apart from that... Ehhhh?  I always figured Agility made more sense for flee rate, honestly.  Level really only matters for determining guaranteed rate of flight - if you're above X levels over the enemy, flee rate should just be 100%.
9  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 10, 2017, 08:55:06 PM
Hmm...  Good point.  If it's impossible to flee, it'd be a bit too strict.  What if we have a different formula for when you're facing foes of a higher level vs a lower level?  Like, using the old formula if it's a negative value, but the *15 version if it's a positive value?  That way it stays kinda tough if you're underleveled (as it should), but if you're higher level and foes are just kinda trivial, then fleeing from them should be trivial too?

I mean, considering GS' pacing, it's not too terribly hard to get to a higher level.  I don't think I ever had a first run in any GS game where I wasn't overleveled the first time I played through it.

Here's another idea - what if relative level looks at total level and not average level?  It'd make sense that it's harder to get away from a horde of enemies than it would be to get away from a couple foes.  What do y'all think?  Nevermind, that might make it too easy due to how rarely you face at least four foes.
10  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 10, 2017, 08:32:26 PM
Looking at that, you get 100% after what, ten level difference?  If we used (Relative Level * 10) then it'd max at 5 over, and if (Relative Level * 15) it'd max at 3-4 over.  I think either of those two would be a better modifier, and I'm leaning towards the last one (*15) myself personally.
11  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 10, 2017, 04:05:58 PM
Seems to me like there's a lot of unnecessary digits in that calculation.

50 + (20*fleeFails) + (Relative Level * 5) >= Random(0,99)

Shouldn't that do effectively the same thing?  I disagree with the idea of making fleeing 100% at all times, but when you're a certain number of levels above the enemy I don't see why you shouldn't be able to get away guaranteed.  Heck, Suikoden implies that you're so strong you're letting the enemy go, as if you're the random encounter for them and they're trying to run.  Makes sense to me.  Perhaps tweak it so that if you're... say, 5 levels above the enemy as an example, the chance becomes 100%. 
12  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 09, 2017, 04:08:09 PM
The only thing is, I don't want it to be weaker against EVERYTHING.  I'm fine with Judgment doing enough damage to OHKO entire groups of enemies (provided there's a tangible trade off for that).  It's only against bosses that I think the damage numbers are too high.

That's the problem with HP percentile damage.  Bosses are hit more because they just have more HP.  It's why I prefer to gut the system altogether and replace it.  I mean, the alternative is that you basically make it "spells, but they're called summons instead for no reason" like what Final Fantasy does. 

@Sala:  Hey, that 2% approach isn't my approach. XD  I was letting them know about what y'all tend to do.
13  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 09, 2017, 04:56:24 AM
...To be fair, attacking with a stick is more than enough to obsolete attack psynergy.  Summons are the least of psynergy's problems while Unleashes rule the meta and no stat supports casting spells.
14  The Editor / Golden Sun Hacking / Re: Three Ideas for Balancing Summons on: August 09, 2017, 04:00:38 AM
The common thing to do is to reduce HP% damage from 3% per djinn to 2% per djinn. 

I'm fond of doing a completely different approach, turning them into a 4 turn non-targetable AI ally (since, you know, that's more like what a summon should do), but it's not something that can be done via a hack.
15  Golden Sun Games / Golden Sun / Re: Early Enemy Data Analysis Conclusions on: July 21, 2017, 11:56:26 AM
Yeah... I was so hung up with TLA leveling up TBS monsters I never stopped and asked why.  I spent a lot of time trying to figure out a formula for level correction back to TBS standards.  When I finally figured that out, my eyes bulged with the results.  Went back and checked things separately, and... wow.

This has actually lead me to look at character stats and rebalancing them.  I think HP, ATK, DEF, AGL, and equipment stats are going to be getting a 15% nerf for characters to avoid getting super-high level play from hitting the cap (thus keeping the reward for leveling), and anything I do regarding enemies will just flat out toss vanilla enemy stats out the window.  I'm gonna have to completely change the approach to match my design philosophies.  It's quite possible that I adopt an approach of having enemies with lower stats, but stronger moves for instance.  Ideally, we'd want the same action economy and Hit Count to KO rate as the vanilla games, just using lower numbers, so... that'll take some doing.
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Yesterday at 08:59:37 PM
Fox: Same... depending on whether they've used tricks instead or not.
Yesterday at 08:02:49 PM
Salanewt: I could see it counting.
Yesterday at 11:24:44 AM
Fox: Not sure if Zelda (LttP/Minish Cap) count or not...
Yesterday at 11:23:00 AM
Fox: Appararently, I can't think of many GBA games that do the psuedo-3D thing. (That being 2D maps with 3D-like collision...) Golden Sun and Superstar Saga come to mind, though... but I'll need to think about others, since it is quite possible i've simply forgotten....
August 19, 2017, 03:45:19 PM
Fox: Hmm... Thought: What if Isaac and co. weren't on Jupiter Lighthouse when Felix and co. were... I wonder if the story could have had a huge expansion, in this case.
August 18, 2017, 12:18:56 PM
Fox: Welcome back!
August 18, 2017, 09:12:43 AM
Luna_blade: back from vacation
August 17, 2017, 02:29:26 AM
Fox: That moment when you realize that there is a lot of chatting going on on Discord, that there is no point in trying to keep up. :P  Hm....
August 16, 2017, 04:50:22 AM
Fox: (Then again, just because posting is disabled, doesn't necessarily mean the buttons would be removed as well.)
August 16, 2017, 04:48:55 AM
Fox: (I mean, buttons I would expect to be similar to that.... rather than those specifically since I recall posting there to be disabled.)
August 16, 2017, 04:33:02 AM
Fox: Yeah... I like to think of it as a page loaded with ads. And it's not just the forum home page either... check the sub-forums/topics themselves. == New Topic/Reply/etc. buttons were affected.
August 15, 2017, 07:04:30 PM
Salanewt: Lol, nice. :P
August 15, 2017, 06:33:02 PM
Fox == Hahaha! GSHC Classic looks funny now that Photobucket killed the images. :P Anyway, how is everyone doing today?
August 14, 2017, 07:12:02 PM
Salanewt: So yeah, I'm typing up a non-academic essay on why GS2 was rushed; expect that sometime soon!
August 07, 2017, 05:53:11 AM
Fox: But anyway, such a hack mod is simply an idea, and I do not have any current plans to work on it at this time, so.....
August 07, 2017, 05:51:46 AM
Fox: Okay, cool. I think my idea works best without an ability to swap PCs (OR to just simply make that use it the PC's turn.) Hmmm... And with that, I question if a turn list is even needed with my approach. (Outside of maybe 1 entry, if that shortens the modifications.)
August 07, 2017, 05:13:26 AM
Salanewt: To be honest I've been thinking of expanding the battle turn section and also adding code for PCs to have more than two turns in the AI overhaul, but I probably won't allow anyone to have more than four.
August 06, 2017, 12:22:17 AM
Fox: Oh, and if that approach was taken = Would like to also have it so you select the spell to use when it is actually your turn rather than at round start.
August 06, 2017, 12:12:37 AM
Fox: Would take a lot of balancing, but I can see an adept being very slow, and yet very powerful.
August 06, 2017, 12:06:11 AM
Fox: And bosses can have an Agility that is above half of the maximum possible Agility. Mwahaha.

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