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« Reply #60 on: 23, February, 2012, 09:22:30 PM »

Actually, Zman, you're wrong about the real life dev team thing.  It's actually just as effective, if not more so,  to NOT be in real life.  This is why:  In order for multiple people to work on the same project, especially at the same time, it requires multiple computers and file sharing.  While having someone right beside you is nice for talking about ideas, ultimately it's just as easy to do so in an instant messenger.  File sharing is easily enough done, and, done right, you can keep people from taking their own copies of the file and dragging away your work, thus preventing the "he stole my @#$%!" problem.  So, in this case, it would be more effective to form a team online as it's easier to find someone who could prove useful online than it is in real life.
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« Reply #61 on: 24, February, 2012, 03:15:14 AM »

Zman, don't provoke people needlessly and spam at the end of your sentence.

Role, that language is uncalled for, as is the attitude.

If I have to say anything again, another warning will be issued.
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« Reply #62 on: 24, February, 2012, 05:56:38 PM »

As much as we would all love to have an update on the editor, you can't really go up to your employers and say "hi, I'm taking the day off of work today to work on a program for some obscure forum that I run" to them. I'm sure that Atrius will come around sometime soon and give us a minor update or something, if he hasn't already seen this topic yet that is. At least we even have an editor, we could have been forced to rely on hex editors for the bulk of our editing needs.

Besides, you don't actually need to use one to make a hack - a bit of research in the right places could prove quite beneficial to said hack's development. It would be pretty unrealistic to rely on the editor for 100% of a hack's development. It helps a lot as it is, and it comes with so much as well - items, abilities, enemies, PC stuff, text, object/NPC editing, viewing capabilities for so much more, etc. Heck, it does more than several other editors that I have seen. I guess we should just wait patiently for Atrius to come around and say something or other, and then we will all be happy... Right?
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« Reply #63 on: 25, February, 2012, 01:21:52 AM »

As much as we would all love to have an update on the editor, you can't really go up to your employers and say "hi, I'm taking the day off of work today to work on a program for some obscure forum that I run" to them. I'm sure that Atrius will come around sometime soon and give us a minor update or something, if he hasn't already seen this topic yet that is. At least we even have an editor, we could have been forced to rely on hex editors for the bulk of our editing needs.

Besides, you don't actually need to use one to make a hack - a bit of research in the right places could prove quite beneficial to said hack's development. It would be pretty unrealistic to rely on the editor for 100% of a hack's development. It helps a lot as it is, and it comes with so much as well - items, abilities, enemies, PC stuff, text, object/NPC editing, viewing capabilities for so much more, etc. Heck, it does more than several other editors that I have seen. I guess we should just wait patiently for Atrius to come around and say something or other, and then we will all be happy... Right?
That only excuses 1 month delays.  He promised us smaller, more frequent updates, remember?

One thing at a time, that's all we need, not huge updates.  Hell, when we found out about the 10x multiplier thing, he could have taken it on and added that functionality to fix it.  It doesn't take 8 months to do something like that, no matter what your excuse.




This all boils down to this:  I'm sick and tired of planning.  I want to start testing.  To have visible results, not just editing freaking stats.  So I can change what people say and make the game harder/easier/stupidly strange, but big freaking deal.  It's still very clearly TLA, isn't it?  I can't tweak formulas, I can't import images, I'm even limited as to what I can do with the stats themselves.  Hell, the last update was barely even a thing!  I don't mind small updates so long as they're frequent, but this is... it's just...

For as much as I would love to do with the editor, it's an exercise in frustration just waiting and depending on a single person.
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« Reply #64 on: 25, February, 2012, 02:40:05 AM »

@Zman, if you're having such a sh*t day, then don't POST. I've had bad days, posted/pmed what I normally wouldn't but still got my point across. Yours just seems like rage.

@Role, I haven't been here since 0.2 -> 0.3.. nor the part where he promised frequent updates (or maybe I wasn't looking at the forums.. its a more recent thing) but, they have a point when it comes down to releasing an update complete, rather then in pieces/very buggy. Off the top of my head, I'll guess on sprite swapping.. for example. If he released a buggy version of that, in which it didn't call forth the right images, etc, more people would complain. But, the community could help fix it, so I see your point very well.

@Atrius, Thanks for taking the editor to even v0.4, it would take me too long to even begin thinking of hacking a GBA game without a simplified tool like this.
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« Reply #65 on: 25, February, 2012, 03:56:23 AM »

The frustration is understandable, it's all fair criticism.

Hmm... I've been thinking about this for a long time now, and I think I've finally made the decision.  It'll take me time to prepare a proper response, but it's coming, I'll try to have it up by the end of tomorrow.
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« Reply #66 on: 25, February, 2012, 01:02:06 PM »

Yeah, I've been here since 0.1, so I've got a lot of time invested into this site.  I have a right to be frustrated.

@Atrius:  I hope you get a team together, to be honest.  Sala and Jamie seem to know what they're doing at least, so I suggest looking at them for team members.
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« Reply #67 on: 25, February, 2012, 05:57:46 PM »

Me? I don't code. At all. Well, I know a little bit of Visual Basic, but...

Anyway, I'd suggest getting Salanewt, Teawater, and Kide together as a team for this stuff.
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« Reply #68 on: 25, February, 2012, 06:17:47 PM »

Oh, right... Sorry, I keep confusing you and Teawater after his name change... I don't know why. :/
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« Reply #69 on: 25, February, 2012, 06:30:53 PM »

Do I really make as little sense as he does? That's harsh.

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« Reply #70 on: 25, February, 2012, 06:35:24 PM »

Not really.  Like I said, I really don't know why.  Maybe it's because you used to be Venusian, and he kinda replaced you in my mind when he changed his name...

Geez, I confuse a lot of people on this site at times.  KoP and Kingzane at times, Sala and Teawater, you and Teawater... I'm so confused! D:
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« Reply #71 on: 07, March, 2012, 02:42:01 PM »

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Well, it almost looks like someone wants me in an editor team! That sounds nice, despite my ability to really do anything without PRO. Thank you very much, DLL file(s)!, and what not. (I'd really prefer not to buy it.)  However, I do have plans to see if I can convert this code to something I actually know more about.  Visual Basic.  This idea is only in the alpha stages, so I have put very little thought into it.

So anyway, just for population interest, who prefers Visual Basic over GML?
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: Being able to convert IPS files to text files to also supporting commenting, and convert back to IPS after changes.... sounds like a fun strategy? 
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Salanewt: That awkward feeling when almost a quarter of a year goes by without anyone posting a message in this chatbox.
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: I'm having a thought. So I know Atrius's editor is slow at saving sprites.... So I've been thinking.   I am considering another console program.  This time, for importing and exporting sprites/animations. Image files (for sprites), binary files (for animation data), and maybe binary or text files for Settings. Would certainly be cool if it works out. - Console programs are fun, when you can (at least temporarily) cheat out making a full interface editor for them. =P
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: Tried to list those in order of importance, but anyway....
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: GSHC, GS Speedrunning, /r/Golden Sun, GS United Nations, ToK.  Sixth one is border-line I'm not sure.
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: (low as in <100)
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: So while there are quite a few GS Communities out there. There are only up to maybe ~6 Discords worth even the consideration of joining, I think. Most of the rest of them have a fairly low member count. (Of which I can tell?)
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: The Essential Age could be what it stands for?
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JupiterDjinn: Just got the reply. Ok my question is: how can I get the tea editor on Android, because I already have an emulator. But no computer.
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Salanewt: Nice work hiding the searchbots Atrius!
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Salanewt: I was wondering when I said that stuff! May need to work it out with Kain.
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: (The simplest being to not accept char IDs pass 255, I think.)
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Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas: Heheh.... I'm just testing. You pretty much gave it away. Hahah. It seems to look fairly convincing, but I'm sure there's an easy solution to preventing it.
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