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« on: February 11, 2012, 04:57:29 AM »

Hey everyone! Confused about the topic title? Well, I guess it would be a bad idea to assume that you know what I am talking about, so I will try to explain it as quickly as possible. You know how there are several animations that are really similar, right? Well, these animations are related, as it turns out. However, it doesn't stop there - many animations are used and/or combined with others in order to achieve their full visual effects. For example, the Breath and Ether Djinn use particle effects that can very easily be isolated or separated and used in a similar fashion to Ply or Cure. This topic is meant to describe and/or list all of the known families.

When viewing the images, it would be best to keep in mind that you order them in a similar way as to how you would order the words in an English writing - from left to right, moving down to the next row when you reach the end of the current one.

Oh, and the table is located at 08197AA0, starting with Quake's animation. Have fun!


Anime Attacks

Moves like Vorpal Slash and such; I think they are all unleashes, but I can't remember if they are all used.

Spoiler for Anime BS:

Big-@#$ Weapons

Sadly not a lot here.

0 - Heavy Divide (giant sword swings down onto target
1+ - Strong Hit (throws a hatchet at target, piercing them)

Beams

Basically moves like Beam and stuff. However, it seems like the "tiering" argument can be directly assigned through here as well. Tier 0 is the standard animation, 1 makes certain parts larger (i.e. Beam gets a larger ring, ball, and beam), and 2 adds a bunch of rings; each tier also enlarges particle effects. Each row corresponds to just one base animation, and each column is a tier. Oh, and x02 is basically a running smash while x04 is Beam without the beam or ball. Also kind of surprised Void Beam isn't here, but whatever.

Spoiler for Oh, Scotty! <3:

Blasts

Okay, so this set is pretty unique relative to most of the others in here. The first two look decent as standard moves, but the others will look like they are too far below the caster. That's because they actually have some additional code to make the caster leap up into the air before playing them (think Thrash, one of the moves used by Toadonpa, and Severe Blow by Fusion Dragon). The code could potentially be tweaked to have something like Felix diving into the ground to cause an earthquake... Or something.

0 - Blast (Nova)
1 - Dynamite
2 - Purple Blast (centered on/below caster rather than target; has additional segment)
3+ - Red Blast (centered on/below caster rather than target; has additional segment)

Bombs

Very little. 1+ have no knockback.

0 - Blast
1 - Smoke/Sleep Bomb
2+ - Blast lookalikes

Breaths

Various animations that resemble Fire Breath.

Spoiler for Breaths:
Buffs

Buffs images appear, generally with minor graphical effects to accompany them.

Spoiler for Buffs:

Debuffs

Buff images appear before being broken. There aren't very many though - chances are, you have already seen them before.

0 - Dull
1 - Impair
2 - Weaken
3 - Mars version of Dull (red sword breaking)
4+ - Weaken

Djinni Buffs

Very little here.

0 - Rime
1+ - Haze

Charges

Basically like Bone Rush. Missed a couple details though; x05 seems to be a golden version of x04, and everything above a certain number is glitchy and/or unfinished; for example, x0A is x01 without the graphic.

Spoiler for CHAAAARGE!:


Currents

Not too much to say here. Poison Flow is the red one, the rest are either potential Djinni abilities, and watery wave abilities. I think the purple one at the very bottom is misaligned, or else that would likely be a slightly angled version of the red one. Oh, and the first Djinni pulls, the other one pushes.

Spoiler for Currents:

Dragon Tiamats

Not much here either really.

0 - Tiamat
1 - Dragon Driver
2+ - Tiamat with no dragon or fire breath (area fire still around, actually looks pretty neat)

Rainbows :)

Rainbow particle blasts!

0 - Djinn Stun
1 - Mystic Call
2+ - Djinn Stun with a lot more particles

Drains

Basically the Drain/PP Drain abilities, but there are also two additional variants (dark purple and tiny purple) and a bunch of other screw ups. For anything above 5, the screen may turn blue and varying collections of random pixels will randomly wander about, all with excruciatingly long delays before battle resumes as normal.

Something interesting to note is that the animation for Drain/PP Drain uses the "tiering" argument to decide which of the two to play, so I imagine you could just use the same animation for the purple variants if you want; the dark purple one seems to have its own assignment branch right after theirs for some reason.

Spoiler for Drains:

Elemental Cards

The offensive card spells from the Pierrot line, including spells like Flame Card.

0 - Bramble Card
1 - Frost Card
2 - Flame Card
3 - Thunder Card
4+ - Nothing

Ailment Cards

0 - Sleep Card
1 - Baffle Card
2 - Death Card
3 - Sword Card
4+ - Incomplete Death Card (Grim Reaper doesn't come out)

Fiery Globes

Includes Shred and Star Magician's standard attack (with what I think is critical hit), along with a blue orb that explodes. Oh, and 4+ is the same as x1, but the screen remains dark afterward.

Spoiler for Not AC/DC:

Flame Cloaks

Move like Spasm and such. 4+ also causes the screen to shake briefly.

Spoiler for Burn, baby burn!:

Gases

Various animations that resemble gaseous attacks; many of which are ailments but a couple are unleashes and such.

Spoiler for Gases:

General Target

A lot of these animations have more random targeting options (such as an animation that focuses on the player but affects the target) and so forth. Some of the more unique Djinn like Luff and Meld can be seen in here, and then you have things like Formina Sage and the like. Also some water-based solar flare, no idea what's up with that. Most of these are very pretty.

Spoiler for General Target; Quite Pretty:

Growth

Basically, these have graphics that come out of the ground and cover a small selection of units.

0 - Growth
1 - Punji
2+ - Green glitchy mass

Healing

Various particles are conjured near the target, turning them white for a brief second in most cases. Eddy's bubbles are also in here.

Spoiler for Healing:

Kraken Moves

Not much here.

0 - Poison Beat (green tentacle, minor)
1 - Spinning Beat (purple tentacle, launches target off screen
2+ - Purple Tentacle (no knockback)

Light Cylinders

Not too much here.

0 - Purgatory (red wide)
1 - Djinn Storm (rainbow wide)
2 - Djinn Blast (rainbow narrow)
3+ - Unfinished gold (yellow narrow)

Mars Charge

We have two used Djinn animations, and then everything else is a ground pound.

0 - Core
1 - Cannon
2+ - Mars Ground Pound (with particles, but little else)

Meteorites

Surprise, the Meteor summon is here! Not much here besides a palette swap though.

0 - Meteor
1 - Outer Space
2+ - Meteor

Particle Tests

Wasn't sure what else to call this. Basically particles that come out of the caster, and either swarm the part or swarm the target(s).

Spoiler for Particle Tests:

Planet Diver

Both this and Planetary, nothing more.

0 - Planet Diver
1+ - Planetary

Plasma Globes

Only these three, though I can't remember what uses the third one.

Spoiler for AC/DC:

Ransack

Surprisingly, Ransack and several other abilities seem to have a family of their own. The offending unit goes up to the target and slashes at them multiple times.

Spoiler for Ransack:

Revive

These spells mostly look like Revive, with feathers falling from the sky and causing light to emanate out of the target.

0 - Revive
1 - Dew's Mercury Revive
2+ - Spark's Mars Revive

Feather Revives

Not too much to say. The first two have particle effects that indicate Djinni usage, the others don't; as well, 2's feathers come up from the ground, whereas the rest of them have their feathers rain down from above. The first two have to be set as Djinni abilities to be Balm and Tinder, with vertical lines and everything.

Spoiler for Ashes to ashes...:

Skull Gases

Abilities like Demon Night and stuff go here; the one with only two skulls will basically end before they move toward the enemy, and the one with no skulls is just that.

Spoiler for 2Spooky:

Slash

Moves like Slash, Cutting Edge, etc. They all hit their targets consecutively, repeating the animation for each target until they have all been hit.

Spoiler for Slash:

Sticky Vomits

Basically, moves like Sticky Poison go here. There is also a Djinni effect, Mud, but the Djinni graphic seems to be coded right into the animation this time.

Spoiler for Vomits:

Stinging Bites

The name may be confusing, but there are several bite/fang animations as well as animations for moves like Numbing Sting in here.

Spoiler for Bites and Stings:

Sound

They are all 3-ring soundwaves. However, 5, 7, and 8 act a little differently; 5 makes the target jump when they get hit (looks somewhat normal), 7 makes them jump really high (does not look normal), and 8 slowly pulls the target toward the caster after it takes damage, but before the end of that turn.

Edit: Oops, I forgot 4. No biggie though, it's visually identical to 5+ but knocks back the target normally (whereas the rest of the blue ones either do the above or slowly push it back).

Oh, and it looks like there may be another "smooth" variant that is light blue; one can use it by directly using the pointer for it.

Spoiler for Play that funky music!:

Sword Swipes

Not much here.

0 - Human Hunt
1+ - Echo Cut

Titan Blade

There are only three unique ones here, two of which you've probably seen before and the other is glitchy and unfinished.

0 - Titan Blade
1 - Acheron's Grief
2 - Unfinished Element-specific blade (eg. golden if Venus, blue if Mercury); looks like a geyser with a glitched graphic in place of the sword
3+ - Titan Blade

Waft

A bunch of different variants, though all visually similar.

0 - Waft
1 - Aroma
2 - Waft slaps the target (no ribbons)
3+ - Like 1, but the ribbons don't change colour

Waves

Not a whole lot here either. Partially 3D wave effects that somewhat resemble a couple of the animations from the Currents family.

0 - Dreamtide
1 - Watery Grave
2+ - Water Grave with Dreamtide's contact swirl

Edit: Oops, the group revives are actually feather revives; the ability has to be set as a djinni for the vertical lines to show up. I removed the "Group Revives" section, and added a tiny amendment to the Feather group to explain.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 05:02:59 AM »

You missed a "slash"-type effect. There is one that somewhat resembles a horizontal Slash Psynergy effect, though it also resembles a series of discs.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 05:15:39 AM »

I might have missed it, but it might also not belong in this family - I'm not going by animation numbers as seen in the editor, but just by the graphical effects that I can get from each type of animation.

Wait, series of discs? I might know this one, do you know which ability it belongs to?
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 06:29:20 AM »

It isn't used by any in-game abilities, and I do not remember the animation or argument number.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2012, 06:33:10 AM »

Hm... Is it by chance a purple Slash lookalike, but with discs that appear when they make contact with the targets?


Oh, and Ransack seems a tiny bit larger, so I might not be able to post the image before bed. It would have been done already if this one animation weren't so fast, heheh...


Edit: I managed to get Ransack's up, but Sticky Poison's picture won't be up until tomorrow (because the vomit spells have a family too). Sadly, it looks like the djinni effect - Mud, I think - is coded into the actual animation, so that one can't be separated like many others...
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 07:20:45 AM »

No, it looked like purple discs being fired in place of the normal Slash effect.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2012, 10:51:47 AM »

Oh, interesting!  So there's totally unused animation effects, eh?  Heh heh!
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2012, 04:33:18 PM »

There seems to be a few, while some seem to be combined with others... Oh yeah, the Vomit image is up.

As for Ransack, I guess I should point out something. For the second and third rows, each effect within its row is almost exactly the same, but with a crucial difference. The first effect of the row shows a single strike, the second shows the character attacking twice, and the third three times.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2012, 10:56:40 PM »

Do you know if you can capture video and use gifs instead, kind of like the animation project?  That'd be preferable to the split up images...  I don't know if you have the stuff needed to convert the vid into a gif, though...

Also, is the Thorn animation not part of the Growth family of animations?
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 12:42:03 AM »

Making the videos would be extremely easy for me, and I know a bit about preferable compression formats that the VBA software allows me to use, but I am not sure if I have the time to do it this way.

As for Thorn, apparently not.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 01:10:27 AM »

Well, I'm actually talking about converting them into gifs.  I don't think we need a full video for everything - gif for each one would let us see the full thing for each one.  It should kinda help, you know?
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 01:49:06 AM »

Wait, .gif images? Well, these are .png right now... Photobucket has an awful habit of scaling your uploaded images if they are deemed "too large". I plan on finding a different place to host them in the future though.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 01:55:32 AM »

Not .gif images, .gif ANIMATIONS, Sala.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2012, 01:59:55 AM »

Hm, right. Well then in that case, I'm not sure if I have adequate software to do it myself... But I will definitely add them to the first post if someone else makes them.

So yeah, any ideas on other families that might exist?
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2012, 02:22:14 AM »

Yeah, that's why I asked you if you were able to do it.  I ain't got the right stuff to do it either.  Ah well, worth a shot.
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