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« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2012, 04:53:19 PM »

So i downloaded it and it won't open a ROM and when i do the drag and drop i get this error:


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ERROR in
action number 1
of Create Event
for object obj_editor_sys:

Cannot locate string: title
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« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2012, 05:56:01 PM »

Yeah, I've seen that before. I have NO idea what decides whether v0.5 dev is willing to actually open a ROM or not. Certainly, it doesn't open unmodified ROMs, and it doesn't open all modified ROMs either.
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« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2012, 06:06:26 AM »

Zeldafan24: Are you also trying that with the ROM in the same folder as the editor?
I think the "title" label comes from the language.ini file... so it would be interesting to figure out why it can't read the string...

From what I've tested, the current directory is switched to where ever the ROM file is. (It is supposed to stay at the editor's directory for use with reading the language.ini file, and possibly other editor-related files.)

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By having the ROM in the same folder as the editor (and with a working ini file), I suspect the File => Open would also work okay, as well. During testing, anyway. Otherwise, nothing seems to happen.
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« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2013, 09:27:54 AM »

I decided to give a hand and sent a post into social bookmarks. I hope the popularity will rise in.
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« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2013, 06:59:25 PM »

Is it just me, or was that a really bad idea?
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« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2013, 08:34:23 PM »

We'll find out soon enough, won't we?

A ton of new members join: Great idea!
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Site gets shut down... hell, what am I saying? It's not like that would happen.
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« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2013, 08:51:21 PM »

Yeah, it would be better to advertise in Golden Sun related communities. Gaming (Even better, RPG communities.) and Game Hacking communities could also apply, however, you must be the judge on how likely those people would be interested in Golden Sun. When in doubt, you could just ask if anyone likes Golden Sun before posting a link to this website.

Somehow, I doubt that the site would get shut down.  There are plenty sites out there that deserve to be shut down first, before this one. I think. Not that Camelot would pay much attention to those. (Except for the ones actually allowing people to download their games.)
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« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2013, 09:25:48 PM »

Yeah, unlike Square Enix, Nintendo seems to be a lot more lenient on things like this - look at FE6 and Mother3's english patch projects, for example.  So long as we don't try to make a profit off of this, we shouldn't have to worry too much about C&Ds.  However, it's not a good idea to poke a bee's nest to see if they get angry - when it comes to advertising the site, err on the side of caution.
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« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2013, 11:38:08 PM »

*coughcough*SKYLANDERS*coughcough*. But yeah, so far Nintendo's been pretty lenient, despite their constant, weak attempts at preventing Wii software modders from modding.
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« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2015, 01:16:03 AM »

Sorry for the rez, but I've got to ask...

Has anyone worked on making an update to this?  I mean, it's open source now, so some of those patches we've had, some of the new stuff we've come up with... and of course, proper keyboard support... surely we can make a 0.6 for easier edits, right?
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« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2015, 01:55:34 AM »

I'll give it a shot if I can find a free copy software and get it to work on my laptop, but as it stands I had to pirate it before and it eventually stopped working. Managed to increase the compatible formula count and fix some typos though. Also added something else that Fox eventually added to his version anyway.
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« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2015, 04:29:40 AM »

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« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2015, 05:33:52 AM »

Can I make a suggestion?  Integrate some of the more popular or useful patches, or at least versions of them.  The class template, PP as Base Damage power source, etc.  For things like the template, instead of a checkmark, give it a button that says "apply" instead.

Also, anything we can do to expand on what's available should be done.  Import options for icons, longer list for classes, etc.  Oh, and apply the new compression methods that were found, rather than the brute force one that exists now.

I know it may seem pushy to ask for all of these features, but... well, it kind of needs them.  Especially given now much more time has gone by since the release.
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« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2015, 05:29:13 PM »

Luna: Oh man, that would be terrific. I can't promise being able to figure out much, but some sort of update would be great; maybe based off of Teawater's map version so everything is consistent.

Role: I don't really have a lot of experience with GM (or programming languages in general), but I can give some of these things a shot. I made a post here that would be my top starting priority, with my overall end goals being efficiency and simplicity while staying within the base limits of the game. Patches fall on the lower end because it takes about a minute to download and install one, although I can try for some of the simpler ones. The class-related bullets should be a huge improvement regardless.


Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, another minor goal is also to expand a bit on the enemy editor. I'll try for things like enemy death sounds and the like if I can figure it out.
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« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2015, 06:33:14 PM »

I like that we are discussing this.

In a way, I'm somewhat convinced moving to another language like C# or Java is probably the way to go...?
As long as these are true:
-GML and C# have similarities in languages in that you use { }, etc.
-If you can port to Linux/Mac/etc.. using (http://www.mono-project.com/ ???) that's great. - Googling, I found this http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/c-and-nets-sudden-ubiquity/240169282 ... (Posted Nov. 2014) Maybe it is interesting?
-Game Maker seems to be CPU-intensive, I reckon we could solve that problem. Game Maker also has a poor user-interface in my opinion.
-I know how to do fast IO-data loading in C#/Java, where-as Game Maker may require the DLL.
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Yesterday at 04:52:18 PM
Fox: Easier in the idea that I can reduce required external stuff where the source code isn't available/modifyable (Well, there is overrides in some cases, but still.) ; So it's possible the only "Events" I would require are those of the Form.... (Mouse Events, Keyboard Events, Paint Events, Etc. when needed.)
Yesterday at 04:42:14 PM
Fox: Anyway... I know I am using built-in controls in my current editor, but it is not out-of-the-question that I might just go and make my own custom controls... so that it is actually easier for me (But that'd take a lot of work.)  I'm thinking about one large bitmap object, and just drawing them on it. Problem is, I'm afraid it might not be efficient enough.  So I haven't decided about doing it.)
Yesterday at 04:33:28 PM
Fox: @XML = If I recall, I believe Visual Studio uses it for Settings Variables that remain even after you close the program. (e.g. There's one variable I have in my program that I call "LastRom" to make it easier to get back into the program.)
Yesterday at 04:17:59 PM
Fox: XML/JSON are simple = They are just a way to store data outside the application... ... The complexity is comparable to learning about data trees, I'd say... XML = Looks like HTML  ; JSON = Think Lists and Dictionaries, and nested ones.
Yesterday at 03:51:19 PM
Luna_blade: @the whole static thing: I recently came across the problem that if you use design patterns, objects of the same class might get duplicate info. Sometimes this is very little information, so it seems better to use something class-wide than making a file
Yesterday at 03:47:41 PM
Luna_blade: another thought I had is that I already made some code better...
Yesterday at 03:45:59 PM
Luna_blade: Sure I will open-source it on github once I rewrite it to be more maintainainable. Now that I think about it, I should put some other stuff there as well
Yesterday at 03:44:54 PM
Luna_blade: Yeah I made some code and screens for it in Java. The last thing I was busy working on was the grid for the values and the selection shape.
Yesterday at 03:41:22 PM
Luna_blade: I will learn a bit of JSON and XML soon. I guess those are pretty good replacements for what I meant with static
Yesterday at 03:40:42 PM
Luna_blade: It's an okay article. I prefer reading the java implementations on tutorialpoint
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Fox: article*
Yesterday at 12:07:06 PM
Fox: Oh yes, there's a whole artice on design patterns at wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_design_pattern
Yesterday at 07:20:37 AM
Fox: Oh yes.... Just checked.... Program.cs has "Application.Run(new Form1());" ... AND.... Program.cs is a STATIC class, so my hunch is confirmed. (In a way.)
Yesterday at 07:12:43 AM
Fox: So... I'm assuming that it is like a tree, and your top level file should be the static class, with all the other object classes linked from it? (Like a tree?) - Wonder how the Dessigner treats Forms. (How are Form objects linked to a static class, if at all?)
Yesterday at 07:00:51 AM
Fox: (Since I can have incredibly bad wording sometimes :P)
Yesterday at 06:59:50 AM
Fox: (Well, started "?" was more implying whether you made any public releases yet....
Yesterday at 06:59:02 AM
Fox: Wait? You started a Hed Editor? Curious if you were going to open-source it....
Yesterday at 06:55:16 AM
Fox: Using xml or json has also come to mind as a method to replace language.ini file and to store table addresses.... but I haven't thought much about that, so....
Yesterday at 06:54:24 AM
Fox: @static object = Huh? Well, I do know that it's useful for global stuff... at least. But I'm curious about when to know if a function should be down globally or through another object....  For example, I could make me rom buffer be put in a global file, since we're likely to only have one opened at a time, for almost the duration of the app, but then when we consider possible advances in the application like having two opened at one time (Such as GS1 and GS2 to transfer pieces of data), then...?
Yesterday at 06:30:49 AM
Luna_blade: And then every strategy should have some 'static' object that tells how the specific strategy should generally look.

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