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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2014, 05:32:32 AM »

Uhh yeah, I don't know a bit of DD... I'll look into this.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2014, 10:48:04 AM »

Yeah, DD introduced a third tier of person.


You have the normal mundane people (fori) at one end, who can neither see nor cast psynergy.
You have adepts on the other end (jenai), who both see and cast psynergy.
You have the exathi in the middle, who can certainly see psynergy, but can't cast it.  They're apparently people who can build magitek type stuff, and it's heavily implied that many of the alchemy machines were the result of the combined effort of the Exathi and the ancient Jenai.

Babi can see psynergy, but he can't really wield it.  And he did build himself quite the empire.  There's a good argument on behalf of him being Exathi.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2014, 05:24:36 PM »

As of Golden Sun: Dark Dawn, every standard human can perceive basic Psynergy effects to my understanding. That's part of what the release of Alchemy did. It's evident that they still can't see Spirit Sense, but they can definitely tell that you were the one who caused that massive volcanic eruption out of nowhere. I mean, I know all the people at Patcher's Place were Adepts, which is why they reacted to Tyrell almost blowing up the whole establishment with Fireball, but I still think everyone can see most Psynergy techniques. I thought that's why they were so concerned about maintaining the image of Adepts in the eyes of common people after the release of Alchemy.

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't recall anyone in-game ever mentally complaining about you casting Spirit Sense on them, despite the behaviour of various NPC Adepts when you cast Mind Read on them.

It's spelled "Jenei" actually, not Jenai.

Dark Dawn's a little weird about it though. Most people assumed, prior to the release of Dark Dawn, that the release of Alchemy would restore the ability to use Psynergy to all people, either immediately or over time. Having so many people with that much power at their disposal running around was why Alchemy was sealed in the first place.

In any case, Babi could cast Psynergy, even if not on his own. He could use the Cloak Ball, as I stated earlier, and he could operate the Black Crystals used to power Lemurian ships.
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2014, 11:00:26 AM »

He also specifically stated he's not an adept, that he doesn't have that kind of power.  Because he was able to extract psynergy from a tool/object, though... well, that to me is how Exathi came across.  As people who could do that.
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2014, 01:50:54 PM »

He also specifically stated he's not an adept, that he doesn't have that kind of power.  Because he was able to extract psynergy from a tool/object, though... well, that to me is how Exathi came across.  As people who could do that.
Unless he lied...
And I think he might be an Exathi.
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He also specifically stated he's not an adept, that he doesn't have that kind of power.  Because he was able to extract psynergy from a tool/object, though... well, that to me is how Exathi came across.  As people who could do that.
Oh, I guess it's been to long since I have seen it. Thanks for the correction.
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2014, 12:33:11 AM »

Lied about not being an Adept?  No, if he was one, he'd have taken the boat himself, remember?  That's the whole reason he was searching for adepts - so someone could drive the boat.
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2014, 07:24:01 PM »

Correction:
Babi CAN command the boat, but was the only one of them to be able to do so. He is now too old and can't go anywhere without easy access to his Mystic Draught, and has a responsibility to his city that cannot be ignored. So he needs to recruit someone else to do it.
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2014, 11:45:47 AM »

Wait, really?  Where was this?  I'm still a ways away from that section in my WiiU playthough - could you maybe hunt it down in one of the many scripts online?
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2014, 06:39:17 PM »

Quote from: GS2
Kraden    : Unfortunately, Babi was the only one of us who could use the ship.

So there you have it. It's not mentioned in GS1, though.
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