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[pablitox]

You are welcome. Still got to document the other commands, though. = Hopefully I can get at least half of those in this month. (?)

Sounds good. I also have it in my Hacking Docs folder. (Misc. Docs link in my signature.)

That'll be most helpful! thanks fox

Meanwhile I'll keep working on the graphic task.

[Daddy Poi]

Alright.. I have a tiny bit of info...

"in this case the opcode is: 16 03 01 00 18 01 00 00 83 C1 00 00 The text in this opcode is 83 C1 which is translated to your partner name. Soon after this opcode we have a 0B 03 (big text) with 83 C1 81 49 81 49 that is: (Partner name) + "!!" But when testing I only saw the :(Partner name) + "!!", when the character summons him/her. I didn't see the summon name by it self as the 16 03 opcode is sugesting. That opcode is kinda weird, maybe this opcode will need some brute force search. t's not like there is much text in that opcode format. About all of it is or user created names and or '!' and or '?'. The only thing we need to take a look is that player name + 'Da'(japanese) + '!'. I think its the only of those 16 03 opcodes we might need to change. Do you have any clue to why a japanse would put a 'Da' after a name? (maybe something we need to translate)

When I looked at the code on this, it looked like this command (0316) is for getting the number of characters in the text string.

0316 EXPR TEXT
EXPR = Refers to where in memory to set the number of characters in text to.
TEXT = The text to check (Using CX83 will read from the text variables)

Does that make any sense?

[pablitox]

Alright.. I have a tiny bit of info...

"in this case the opcode is: 16 03 01 00 18 01 00 00 83 C1 00 00 The text in this opcode is 83 C1 which is translated to your partner name. Soon after this opcode we have a 0B 03 (big text) with 83 C1 81 49 81 49 that is: (Partner name) + "!!" But when testing I only saw the :(Partner name) + "!!", when the character summons him/her. I didn't see the summon name by it self as the 16 03 opcode is sugesting. That opcode is kinda weird, maybe this opcode will need some brute force search. t's not like there is much text in that opcode format. About all of it is or user created names and or '!' and or '?'. The only thing we need to take a look is that player name + 'Da'(japanese) + '!'. I think its the only of those 16 03 opcodes we might need to change. Do you have any clue to why a japanse would put a 'Da' after a name? (maybe something we need to translate)

When I looked at the code on this, it looked like this command (0316) is for getting the number of characters in the text string.

0316 EXPR TEXT
EXPR = Refers to where in memory to set the number of characters in text to.
TEXT = The text to check (Using CX83 will read from the text variables)

Does that make any sense?

I think it does make sense for this control code.

It's not like there is much text in that opcode format as earth said. I think we can leave it like that. What do you say?

[pablitox]

I'm gonna addsome functions to the drive you made, these ones were identified by normmatt:

ROM:08003BC0 ; unsigned int __fastcall DrawCharacter(int src, int dest, int src_offset, int bg_color)
ROM:08003BC0 DrawCharacter
ROM:08003EB8 ; unsigned int __fastcall DrawCharacter_0(int src, int dest, int src_offset, int bg_color)
ROM:08003EB8 DrawCharacter_0
ROM:08001F14 DrawString
ROM:0800348C GetCharacterAddressInFont

One of the drawcharacter is for the normal font, while the other is for the big characters font (no clue which one's which)

[Daddy Poi]

Are there only like ~two ARM functions in this game (and the rest is THUMB.) or am I missing something?


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@What do you say?
Sure, I guess.

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@Next post: Thanks! I've added them, but I need to figure out those others in the area...

08001D0C = Stores table addresses to RAM.
 03002970 | 08BDA40C 098C8D9C 09718FFC 094D446C 09E2261C
08001D3C = File look up(table number, index of file) ; Returns address
08001D5C = File look up(table number, index of file) ; Returns size
08001D78 = File look up(table address, index of file) ; Returns address
08001D88 = File look up(table address, index of file) ; Returns size
08001D94 =
08001D98 =
08001DC4 =
08001DE8 =
08001E14 =
08001E38 =
08001E4C =
08001E64 =
08001E70 =
08001EA0 =
08001ED4 =
08001EE4 =
08001EFC =
08001F14 = DrawString(dest, textAddr, , src_offset (16-bit), bg_color)
080020A8 = (Text related)
080022B4 = (Text related) - Alternates between calling 08003B9C and 08003BA8 for each text character. No idea if it was meant to clear character.
08002388 =
080026CC =
08002A64 =
08002CB4 =
080031E8 =
0800348C = GetCharacterAddressInFont(text character id)
0800350C =
08003620 =
08003664 =
080036C4 =
080036F8 = (Text related) Draw string? (dest?,srcText,?)
0800379C = “
08003840 =
0800393C =
08003A20 =
08003B9C =
08003BA8 =
08003BC0 = DrawCharacter(src, dest, src_offset, bg_color)
08003EB8 = DrawCharacter_0(src, dest, src_offset, bg_color)
080041C8 =
080043E4 =
080044B0 = -- From here on down - I/O stuff (Indirectly)

Those two: DrawCharacter and DrawCharacter_0... Seem like each are called alternatingly... (Every other character using one, the other "every other character" using the other? Hmm.... But as with what I have in the quote, there's clearly more stuff to look into... so...

[pablitox]

Are there only like ~two ARM functions in this game (and the rest is THUMB.) or am I missing something?


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@What do you say?
Sure, I guess.

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@Next post: Thanks! I've added them, but I need to figure out those others in the area...

08001D0C = Stores table addresses to RAM.
 03002970 | 08BDA40C 098C8D9C 09718FFC 094D446C 09E2261C
08001D3C = File look up(table number, index of file) ; Returns address
08001D5C = File look up(table number, index of file) ; Returns size
08001D78 = File look up(table address, index of file) ; Returns address
08001D88 = File look up(table address, index of file) ; Returns size
08001D94 =
08001D98 =
08001DC4 =
08001DE8 =
08001E14 =
08001E38 =
08001E4C =
08001E64 =
08001E70 =
08001EA0 =
08001ED4 =
08001EE4 =
08001EFC =
08001F14 = DrawString(dest, textAddr, , src_offset (16-bit), bg_color)
080020A8 = (Text related)
080022B4 = (Text related) - Alternates between calling 08003B9C and 08003BA8 for each text character. No idea if it was meant to clear character.
08002388 =
080026CC =
08002A64 =
08002CB4 =
080031E8 =
0800348C = GetCharacterAddressInFont(text character id)
0800350C =
08003620 =
08003664 =
080036C4 =
080036F8 = (Text related) Draw string? (dest?,srcText,?)
0800379C = “
08003840 =
0800393C =
08003A20 =
08003B9C =
08003BA8 =
08003BC0 = DrawCharacter(src, dest, src_offset, bg_color)
08003EB8 = DrawCharacter_0(src, dest, src_offset, bg_color)
080041C8 =
080043E4 =
080044B0 = -- From here on down - I/O stuff (Indirectly)

Those two: DrawCharacter and DrawCharacter_0... Seem like each are called alternatingly... (Every other character using one, the other "every other character" using the other? Hmm.... But as with what I have in the quote, there's clearly more stuff to look into... so...

Glad it was useful!! One question about your first statement, how you differentiatie between ARM and THUMB functions? I though THUMB was just a subset of ARM, just with 16bits instructions.

So that area is where the functions are stored is that right? As in, each call in the control codes refer to the functions in that place you pointed out.

As normmatt explained us, at least one DrawCharacter is called to draw normal text, while the other is called when the text box contains BIG characters (if you play the game, just the first text to show up will have a bigger font and be displayed in the middle of the screen)

[Daddy Poi]

Well, yes.... That is basically it. THUMB is cut-down ARM. However, I usually say ARM for 32-bit instructions, and THUMB for 16-bit instructions. (Kind of how it is labeled in VBA's Tools>Disassemble...)

So that area is where the functions are stored is that right? As in, each call in the control codes refer to the functions in that place you pointed out.

Well, kind of indirectly. I guess you can kind of think of it like a tree, but the root/parent functions for the control codes/commands aren't in this area. (However, they may call some of these functions, may need to check into that.)
In what I posted, I was going through the code to list what looked like functions that can be called. (Generally.) Usually they're easy to tell because most functions (not all) are nested in push and pop instructions.

As normmatt explained us, at least one DrawCharacter is called to draw normal text, while the other is called when the text box contains BIG characters (if you play the game, just the first text to show up will have a bigger font and be displayed in the middle of the screen)

Maybe. What I read from a quick read of the code /seemed/ to contradict your statement (at least at first)... But until I have figured out where everything is. I can't say whether I've misread or not... While Summon Night's code seems easy to read (compared to some games), I do make mistakes....

08001F14 calls
- 08003BC0
- 08003EB8

080020A8 calls
- 0800348C then 080041C8
- 080043E4 (at end)

[pablitox]

Well, yes.... That is basically it. THUMB is cut-down ARM. However, I usually say ARM for 32-bit instructions, and THUMB for 16-bit instructions. (Kind of how it is labeled in VBA's Tools>Disassemble...)

So that area is where the functions are stored is that right? As in, each call in the control codes refer to the functions in that place you pointed out.

Well, kind of indirectly. I guess you can kind of think of it like a tree, but the root/parent functions for the control codes/commands aren't in this area. (However, they may call some of these functions, may need to check into that.)
In what I posted, I was going through the code to list what looked like functions that can be called. (Generally.) Usually they're easy to tell because most functions (not all) are nested in push and pop instructions.

As normmatt explained us, at least one DrawCharacter is called to draw normal text, while the other is called when the text box contains BIG characters (if you play the game, just the first text to show up will have a bigger font and be displayed in the middle of the screen)

Maybe. What I read from a quick read of the code /seemed/ to contradict your statement (at least at first)... But until I have figured out where everything is. I can't say whether I've misread or not... While Summon Night's code seems easy to read (compared to some games), I do make mistakes....

08001F14 calls
- 08003BC0
- 08003EB8

080020A8 calls
- 0800348C then 080041C8
- 080043E4 (at end)

I see, thanks for the explanation! Glad it's not as hard to read as other functions! That's a slight relief :P

[pablitox]

Good news!

The person that made the script format (earthdarkness) is back, so I'll share this infor with him, he'll find it really useful:).

Btw, about the big text, which function is the one that draws it on the screen????  How does it work?

I'm asking because we wanted to change it from 2byte reading to 1byte per char reading as it had been done with the normal text.

[Daddy Poi]

So like... something like this? (Incomplete, there's a lot of stuff that I haven't studied.)

[pablitox]

So like... something like this? (Incomplete, there's a lot of stuff that I haven't studied.)

Sorry the lack of reply, I was kind of busy.

I'll send it to earth to see if that's what he wanted. Thanks a lot!!!

[gvans]

So like... something like this? (Incomplete, there's a lot of stuff that I haven't studied.)

Sorry the lack of reply, I was kind of busy.

I'll send it to earth to see if that's what he wanted. Thanks a lot!!!

Hi guys. i had to make an account here so i could just say this.

i am truly amazed. i think i have been reading so many forums with so many post over so many years. all about this game.
this has truly been an amazing read. (took me like 2 to 3 hours mostly skipping stuff but getting the jist of it)

now that i have reached the last post i noticed its early this year. Jesus. many many years have past XD
anyhow i am still looking baffled at you guys and the commitments i have been seeing.

just wondering if this is still being continued (seeing its 22-07-2018 now)

you guys are amazing. hope to hear from you guys.

Greatest regards. gvans.

(PS i hope you can excuse any grammar errors i have made here. I'm from the netherlands. try my best though).

[Daddy Poi]

27, April, 2020, 07:54:10 PM

Daddy Poi: I'm having a thought. So I know Atrius's editor is slow at saving sprites.... So I've been thinking.   I am considering another console program.  This time, for importing and exporting sprites/animations. Image files (for sprites), binary files (for animation data), and maybe binary or text files for Settings. Would certainly be cool if it works out. - Console programs are fun, when you can (at least temporarily) cheat out making a full interface editor for them. =P

[Daddy Poi]

25, April, 2020, 10:42:07 PM

Daddy Poi: Tried to list those in order of importance, but anyway....

[Daddy Poi]

25, April, 2020, 10:37:59 PM

Daddy Poi: GSHC, GS Speedrunning, /r/Golden Sun, GS United Nations, ToK.  Sixth one is border-line I'm not sure.

[Daddy Poi]

25, April, 2020, 08:00:21 PM

Daddy Poi: (low as in <100)

[Daddy Poi]

25, April, 2020, 08:00:04 PM

Daddy Poi: So while there are quite a few GS Communities out there. There are only up to maybe ~6 Discords worth even the consideration of joining, I think. Most of the rest of them have a fairly low member count. (Of which I can tell?)

[Daddy Poi]

14, April, 2020, 10:49:35 AM

Daddy Poi: The Essential Age could be what it stands for?

[Misery]

13, April, 2020, 05:23:32 PM

Misery: Tea editor... that's a cute name for it

[JupiterDjinn]

01, April, 2020, 02:42:50 AM

JupiterDjinn: Also my browser is sending two o f my messages srry.

[JupiterDjinn]

01, April, 2020, 02:42:48 AM

JupiterDjinn: Also my browser is sending two o f my messages srry.

[JupiterDjinn]

01, April, 2020, 02:42:09 AM

JupiterDjinn: Just got the reply. Ok my question is: how can I get the tea editor on Android, because I already have an emulator. But no computer.

[JupiterDjinn]

01, April, 2020, 02:42:06 AM

JupiterDjinn: Just got the reply. Ok my question is: how can I get the tea editor on Android, because I already have an emulator. But no computer.

[Salanewt]

31, March, 2020, 07:18:29 PM

Salanewt: Sure thing!

[JupiterDjinn]

31, March, 2020, 03:38:30 PM

JupiterDjinn: Can I have a question answered?

[JupiterDjinn]

31, March, 2020, 03:38:27 PM

JupiterDjinn: Can I have a question answered?

[Salanewt]

28, March, 2020, 12:50:15 AM

Salanewt: I want to shrink it down in size later, but yup!

[Salanewt]

28, March, 2020, 12:50:13 AM

Salanewt: I want to shrink it down in size later, but yup!

[Daddy Poi]

26, March, 2020, 03:24:45 PM

Daddy Poi: The news box is back? :D

[Salanewt]

19, March, 2020, 05:59:16 PM

Salanewt: Nice work hiding the searchbots Atrius!

[Salanewt]

19, March, 2020, 04:23:34 PM

Salanewt: I was wondering when I said that stuff! May need to work it out with Kain.

[Daddy Poi]

19, March, 2020, 07:03:05 AM

Daddy Poi: (The simplest being to not accept char IDs pass 255, I think.)

[Daddy Poi]

19, March, 2020, 05:33:15 AM

Daddy Poi: Heheh.... I'm just testing. You pretty much gave it away. Hahah. It seems to look fairly convincing, but I'm sure there's an easy solution to preventing it.

[Atrius]

19, March, 2020, 05:28:50 AM

Atrius: Whelp, there it goes... Just what I didn't want.  Have fun with that I guess...   

[Daddy Poi]

19, March, 2020, 05:20:25 AM

Daddy Poi: So like. Replace the "e" with another "e"? Alright. Gotcha.

[Daddy Poi]

19, March, 2020, 05:04:41 AM

Daddy Poi: Good work.

[Atrius]

19, March, 2020, 04:44:10 AM

Atrius: Nah, any member could change their name to what I did, there's a trick to it.  I just fixed it so that now the Cbox will use your new name if you change it though, so... That part of the problem is fixed.

[Daddy Poi]

19, March, 2020, 04:41:53 AM

Daddy Poi: For which? It may be that normal users can't change their names to used names, but admins can?

[Atrius]

19, March, 2020, 04:39:57 AM

Atrius: Sorry if the Cbox keeps breaking, I'm trying to make that be less of a thing.

[Daddy Poi]

19, March, 2020, 04:02:04 AM

Daddy Poi: Looks like ID Fraud. You're under arrest. :D  Oh wait.

[Atrius]

19, March, 2020, 03:57:56 AM

Atrius: Yup, that's a thing.

[Atrius]

19, March, 2020, 03:57:08 AM

Atrius: Just testing something, for science.

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