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« on: June 07, 2016, 12:05:12 AM »

Now time to discuss a mostly trivial feature that didn't really exist in GS unless you had 5+ PCs. (But you had to swap them with the back party to do so.)
Should it be possible to change the order of PCs in battle? (Even if you have four or less PCs.)
Should it use up a turn, or be freely available to change each round without cost?
Why or why not?
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2016, 04:38:29 AM »

I don't entirely like the way GS does it, yet it works or can work well enough for the most part. The main thing I would change is to have it be a character-specific action rather than a general free move (or at the very least make it so the character that is switched in can't act that turn). That way most of the strategies that currently exist can still be utilized while making it harder to be cheap. I also like the idea of making the same apply to the standby party when they are switched in, so whatever enemies you are fighting have a lesser chance of being suddenly disadvantaged.

PC order in battle: Doesn't really make sense, especially with four or less. Anything it would actually do for you is negligible with the added bonus of "why are they willing to awkwardly shift around in battle, yet completely unwilling to break the turn-based aspect of it?" Maybe if order actually made a tangible difference beyond things like AI or equal speed checks, but then the question is what that difference should be.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2016, 07:15:01 PM »

Is it just me, or did nobody ever had to switch characters in battle except at Dullahan?
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2016, 08:21:43 PM »

I did everytime a boss used djinn rage or it's single target variant.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 01:47:57 AM »

Rarely, because it's generally a waste of time when most battles end in a couple turns or so. It would be nice if battles in new areas lasted longer until you are almost done said areas.
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August 20, 2017, 08:59:37 PM
Fox: Same... depending on whether they've used tricks instead or not.
August 20, 2017, 08:02:49 PM
Salanewt: I could see it counting.
August 20, 2017, 11:24:44 AM
Fox: Not sure if Zelda (LttP/Minish Cap) count or not...
August 20, 2017, 11:23:00 AM
Fox: Appararently, I can't think of many GBA games that do the psuedo-3D thing. (That being 2D maps with 3D-like collision...) Golden Sun and Superstar Saga come to mind, though... but I'll need to think about others, since it is quite possible i've simply forgotten....
August 19, 2017, 03:45:19 PM
Fox: Hmm... Thought: What if Isaac and co. weren't on Jupiter Lighthouse when Felix and co. were... I wonder if the story could have had a huge expansion, in this case.
August 18, 2017, 12:18:56 PM
Fox: Welcome back!
August 18, 2017, 09:12:43 AM
Luna_blade: back from vacation
August 17, 2017, 02:29:26 AM
Fox: That moment when you realize that there is a lot of chatting going on on Discord, that there is no point in trying to keep up. :P  Hm....
August 16, 2017, 04:50:22 AM
Fox: (Then again, just because posting is disabled, doesn't necessarily mean the buttons would be removed as well.)
August 16, 2017, 04:48:55 AM
Fox: (I mean, buttons I would expect to be similar to that.... rather than those specifically since I recall posting there to be disabled.)
August 16, 2017, 04:33:02 AM
Fox: Yeah... I like to think of it as a page loaded with ads. And it's not just the forum home page either... check the sub-forums/topics themselves. == New Topic/Reply/etc. buttons were affected.
August 15, 2017, 07:04:30 PM
Salanewt: Lol, nice. :P
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August 14, 2017, 07:12:02 PM
Salanewt: So yeah, I'm typing up a non-academic essay on why GS2 was rushed; expect that sometime soon!
August 07, 2017, 05:53:11 AM
Fox: But anyway, such a hack mod is simply an idea, and I do not have any current plans to work on it at this time, so.....
August 07, 2017, 05:51:46 AM
Fox: Okay, cool. I think my idea works best without an ability to swap PCs (OR to just simply make that use it the PC's turn.) Hmmm... And with that, I question if a turn list is even needed with my approach. (Outside of maybe 1 entry, if that shortens the modifications.)
August 07, 2017, 05:13:26 AM
Salanewt: To be honest I've been thinking of expanding the battle turn section and also adding code for PCs to have more than two turns in the AI overhaul, but I probably won't allow anyone to have more than four.
August 06, 2017, 12:22:17 AM
Fox: Oh, and if that approach was taken = Would like to also have it so you select the spell to use when it is actually your turn rather than at round start.
August 06, 2017, 12:12:37 AM
Fox: Would take a lot of balancing, but I can see an adept being very slow, and yet very powerful.
August 06, 2017, 12:06:11 AM
Fox: And bosses can have an Agility that is above half of the maximum possible Agility. Mwahaha.

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