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« on: November 19, 2017, 08:35:58 AM »

Umm.... i'm new here (duh...)
i'm.... a returning golden sun fan,
i've played it since i'm still a kid,
in fact golden sun is my first RPG game  Happy


i almost stopped becuse of dark dawn  Sad
it's not as good as the other two, i think
and also leave us with a cliffhanger


but, my friend tell that there are golden sun hacks around,
i googled and found this forum.


i'm not a hacker yet, but i'm interested to try, any suggestion where i should start?
maybe a explanation thread or something


Thanks, and... have a nice day  Happy
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2017, 06:27:23 PM »

Welcome newbie! To the most powerful Golden Sun in the world. I would ask not to stare at the sun for too long, since it can do evil things to you,... but here at Golden Sun Hacking Community, we encourage everyone to stare at it all they want!  So please do!  Let it brainwash you into the most beautiful dreams you'll ever have!  It is this awesome power we have discovered here! (And it will also keep you from forgetting about this place, should that ever be a problem. *wink*)

Dark Dawn. Ew... I think someone stared at the wrong side of the sun too long.

You should start with............. ARM ASSEMBLY!!! Naw, I kid, that could be one of the last things you'd need to learn, sine the GBA games are mostly Thumb. But it is still useful to know.

Where to start? It depends on what you want to do, since not everyone would want to start with the same thing. (I assume.)
I want to recommend Caledor's hacks, though I still have not tried them yet.

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I could say what got me started....

What got me started with hex hacking, I mean... It was VBA's memory viewer reveals in the debug menus topic around July 7th, 2009.
I remember in the days I didn't know how to do these things (Prior to that date/before I knew about hex editors.), that I really wanted some sort of guide... to explain how the editor was even capable of editing a ROM... But I already know now... (For so long.) ... And so, I eventually came to a point to fulfill a duty (Well, optional), to make these documentations in my signature. (GS2 = Main document.) Where I try to document what's in a ROM.
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Golden Sun Docs: Broken Seal - The Lost Age - Dark Dawn | Mario Sports Docs: Mario Golf & Mario Tennis | Misc. Docs
Refer to Yoshi's Lighthouse for any M&L hacking needs...
Did you know? In English, you are suppose to capitalize the languages. (e.g. English is a proper noun.) Subjects like math, science, history can be left lower-cased unless they are a title. (Kind of like how you can say either "my mom" or "Mom" in "I went with (X) to the store.", except that I don't think languages are ever lower-cased in English.) In Spanish, both subjects and languages are left lower-cased. (I put this here because I've noticed people make this mistake quite often. And am curious if they know about this, and whether they use their way because they believe this grammar usage should have never been a thing?

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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2017, 07:57:46 PM »

Sure. I'll stare at the sun, until i absorb it power one day.

Where i want to start?
Umm.... That's difficult....
Hmm.... How about you tell me what tools you use to hack this game other than the editor? It would be a big help Happy

Because that way, i can decide which one is the easiest for myself.

Thanks in advance
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 09:19:22 PM »

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Sure. I'll stare at the sun, until i absorb it power one day.
The sun has the power to make you go blind should you disrespect it, so be careful! Although, it does like to be looked at in all its glory. (Kind of like bowing to a King or Queen.)

A rough list is something like this.
-VBA's Tools (Memory Viewer/etc.)
-Could get a hex editor like hxd, though it is optional if you choose to save the ROM section in VBA's memory viewer and do it that way.)
-GBATEK (For documentation of the handheld.)
-A debugger such as SDL-H or no$gba debugger (The no$ one may require BIOS files to properly work at times.)
-My Docs (So we don't have to learn what's already known.)
-Some assembly knowledge strongly recommended if wanting to maximize your hacking potential. (GBATEK has info on the assembly instructions, but it's really best if you use it next to a debugger, since it'll likely be more confusing for a novice otherwise. My opinion.)
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Golden Sun Docs: Broken Seal - The Lost Age - Dark Dawn | Mario Sports Docs: Mario Golf & Mario Tennis | Misc. Docs
Refer to Yoshi's Lighthouse for any M&L hacking needs...
Did you know? In English, you are suppose to capitalize the languages. (e.g. English is a proper noun.) Subjects like math, science, history can be left lower-cased unless they are a title. (Kind of like how you can say either "my mom" or "Mom" in "I went with (X) to the store.", except that I don't think languages are ever lower-cased in English.) In Spanish, both subjects and languages are left lower-cased. (I put this here because I've noticed people make this mistake quite often. And am curious if they know about this, and whether they use their way because they believe this grammar usage should have never been a thing?

Remember kids! In getting a job, it's not about what you know, it's about WHO you know! So start making friends with the people that work where you want to work. :) (Friend of a friend and volunteering count too, so keep that in mind.)[/si
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 09:27:00 PM »

I know. I won't make the mistake similar to our villain alex did.

Thanks for the list.
I'll start to search,
and try to learn it right away Happy
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Fox: Okay, so that Summon Night games adds the fram number to the seed, before generating another seed via mul/add....  (GS1-GS3 never adds the fram number.) ... So um, that makes sense! ;  Summon Night:  ((seed + frame) * 0x343FD + 0x269E3C) >> 0x10 ; Which is also on the list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_congruential_generator
December 12, 2017, 11:10:45 PM
Fox: Yes, and there could be contests. Maybe ones where 1st/2nd/3rd place get a cash reward, but eh. Dunno.... Kind of thinking about making a topic about how people got their job, and what was their experience. (e.g. Did they use references of people already working in the job, and various other things.)
December 09, 2017, 04:24:14 AM
Majora: Import old forum posts for reference, perhaps take posts containing important info like documentation away from the old stickied forum post model and make them into their own pages on a site with an in-built search bar. Might help with SEO, too. If nothing else, perhaps whipping them into PDFs and hosting them via Scribd? The possibilities are boundless when it comes to restructuring a site
December 09, 2017, 04:20:02 AM
Majora: Just a nice idea to have even if it doesn't come to fruition. Updating, modernizing, always a good idea. Could probably do something pretty nifty using a good Wordpress theme
December 09, 2017, 04:15:45 AM
Majora: Would be kind of neat to do something like that for GSHC. Could change it up a bit to show all tweets/instagram posts/facebook posts/golden sun subreddit posts all in one sidebar. It would be cool in that it gives the site it's on (and the topic in general) appear more lively and active, which is a plus
December 09, 2017, 04:14:19 AM
Majora: That does sound interesting. One cool thing I've seen some sites use is a sort of unique take on a sidebar option that acts like a social media integration (like, "See GSHC's latest Tweets"). It displays activity from a variety of related sites, such as Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, etc.
December 09, 2017, 12:58:53 AM
Fox: And the way it'd work via code is not that all users would instantly get nicknames the minute you register... but rather, the moment you view a name if it doesn't have a nickname, it gets one. (My Thoughts.)
December 09, 2017, 12:53:55 AM
Fox: (I was thinking that it would be "Name (Nickname)" ... The nickname is what you first known the user as, and you can change that yourself... and the Name is what the user wants to be called... Something like that.
December 09, 2017, 12:47:56 AM
Fox: So like... for starters, one idea I had was to make it so anyone can name anyone... much like how it works on Skype, and you (the namer) would be the only one to see it, and such...
December 09, 2017, 12:45:02 AM
Fox: Would need to be carefully thought out and tested, though.
December 09, 2017, 12:43:02 AM
Fox: I'm thinking I could make it so that name changes can happen whenever... (Without any limit)... Since I believe there's a way to do it with minimum confusion. (I think.) Hmm....
December 09, 2017, 12:31:36 AM
Fox: (I mean an offline version... at least initially.)
December 09, 2017, 12:25:01 AM
Fox: Now that I have thought about it a bit more, would I be right to assume that GSHC would be one of the most interesting websites to administrate, or no? It's sad to see not much going on with it. == I almost want to make a concept website at some point. :D Anyway, how is everyone doing today?
December 06, 2017, 12:12:59 AM
Fox: Like... Start using Github or something... Do like how many of those other projects such as Citra (WIP 3DS Emulator) does. Etc.
December 06, 2017, 12:08:12 AM
Fox: No idea. I just wish OpenGoldenSun would release it as unfinished, but oh well.
December 05, 2017, 06:52:09 AM
MaxiPower: Bummed out that the open golden sun project is dead it seems with no actitivy in close to a year at this point. Is there any hope left in any other projects?
November 27, 2017, 10:25:28 AM
Fox: (When I say research, mainly refering to the data in the game, though checking websites can count to a degree.)
November 27, 2017, 09:52:27 AM
Fox: Maybe. But Dark Dawn is meh, hahah... I still research it, though, because data can be interesting.
November 27, 2017, 05:28:36 AM
Portakin: I'm here! This game is underrated!
November 25, 2017, 08:03:23 PM
Fox: .... and the email listed in that post makes me think we should just make a new rules topic with most of the same information. (So the old ones can be sort o archived.)

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