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« on: May 31, 2019, 05:35:19 PM »

Ok, guys, so I figured out how to finish my patch and I can finally present the official Beta Version!

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Felix is now Maheo, a Mayan Indian with moapa's sprites. Revamped stats and classes.

-Isaac's party fully transformed into all proxian antagonists (Saturos = Isaac, Garet  Agatio, Ivan = Karst and Mia = Menardi)
I did a full revamp of the classes and stats. They are all Mars adepts all functional and stuff.

-Piers's sprites changed into Alex's sprites. He will still be Piers storywise, but he now looks like Alex, in battle and in overworld sprites, and I changed his classes and stats to match a mage like Alex.

-Changed Alex's sprites into another person, a woman. She will be still alex storywise though.

- Changed Sheba into Elko, another indian with full sprite sheet and custom classes! He uses Moapa's Knight overworld sprites and some custom battle poses I made myself. Text to match Elko's scripts aren't yet implemented so he will be refered to as a 'she' for now.


-Changed much of the text.



To do things:

-Change ending text.
-Draw some animation frames that are still missing for some characters.
-fix minor bugs.
-Edit text to match new character Elko
- Saturos and Menardi classes are a little glitched. There are some elemental classes they should have access to, but they don't. Will check it out.

It is playable however. Enjoy!

Special thanks to Caledor for I used his rom as base, and for everyone here who helped me finish my patch.

Edit: Fixed many bugs. Patch fully playable up to Mars Lighthouse last dialog. I still have to edit text again since I ditched Doyle for Elko. Will do this until January 2020.

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2019, 01:18:03 AM »

Hey there, welcome!

Going to comment on the text editing thing first: It's very finicky, and it often glitches for basically no reason at all. Getting beyond that stage is often a matter of trial and error.

As for the stats thing, have you tried giving Isaac the same stats that Garet and Jenna have in vanilla? Venus 3 will probably cause issues because of the way these games do classes.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2019, 03:00:02 AM »

Thanks for replying, Salanewt. I feel welcome indeed. :)

I have tried editing the stats like you said, but I still get the NPC glitch class, but maybe I wasn't clear enought about my doubts, so I'm going to explain again my issues:

What I want is to change Isaac into Saturos, and so change elemental level from Venus 5 to Mars 5. Then, I went to Squire class series and put the requirements for Mars instead of Venus (5 Mars for Squire, 7 for Knight, etc)

When I test, and put all Saturos djinn on standby, it switches back to NPC class instead of Squire class. Why is this happening?
I tried editing different stats (Mars 54, Venus 1 or Mars 51, Venus 3, etc) and all combinations get the same result.


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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 04:20:07 PM »

Have you tried swapping the Mercury and Jupiter stats?

Without going into too much detail (because I'm not sure how to explain), the game uses these values to determine how characters get classes.


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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2019, 12:34:07 PM »

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Then, I went to Squire class series and put the requirements for Mars instead of Venus (5 Mars for Squire, 7 for Knight, etc)
Did you also update the class type? (Mars isn't the same class type as Venus)

Class type is mostly just elemental priority... (Though, can include item classes that don't check for elemental priority.)
1=Venus
2=Mars
3-5=Venus&Mars but with secondary element
6-10 similar as above but with Jupiter/Mercury & secondary element.



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Without going into too much detail (because I'm not sure how to explain), the game uses these values to determine how characters get classes.
When multiple elements have the same level, yes... but in this case, with three elements being a level 0, and one not... and we're only working with the base class-line (single element)... it's not really relevant right now. (To have a secondary element, its level must be above 0.  (If you have an element at "9" (0.9) (not "90"/(9.0)) in the party editor, but no Djinn of the same element, that is still level 0.)
He didn't say anything about class type, and to me, that makes the most sense right now for what the problem may be (If he deleted/changed the original Mars classline, which I suspect is the case?), but he'd need to show us what he has for it.


I may try this myself soon.   Not right now, though.  I'm feeling pretty confident, but I know it's always best to double check.   (I have studied the entire function for what assigns your class a long time ago... so I'm not expecting any problems.)
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2019, 05:32:36 PM »

Edit: Thanks to the info Fox posted above plus some empyrical research, I could figure this out.
The first digit in class type corresponds to the adept in question, meaning 2 is Isaac, 3 is Garet and so on.

So the deal is this: Squire Class is type 20 because Isaac is adept 2 and 0 is pure venus class.
So, when I put type 22 to the classes, then it worked like a charm, because Isaac is 2 and Mars is 2.
If u want to put mia base class, say, to Mars, then change it to type 5 (digita correspondent to Mia) and 2 (Mars) and so on.

Idk if you guys could understand it. I will make a little more research and then maybe I will edit this. Thanks Fox!

Now I can finally finish my patch!
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2019, 08:48:16 PM »

Does psynergy in this mod scale with mp or is like the normal game ?

And is there any new psyenergy or equipment ?

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2019, 06:03:26 AM »

Does psynergy in this mod scale with mp or is like the normal game ?

And is there any new psyenergy or equipment ?

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Hello there! Thanks for playing my patch. Yes, Psynergy damage will escalate with PP, not like the normal game.
Yes, there are new equipments since Maheo uses Lances/Spears and Elko use Hatchets/Axes. I updated my patch just so you know.
I ditched Doyle the Beastman's idea for a better idea. Check it out :)
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Fox: Even just plain Editor work can make some difference. = At least these forums are indexed on the Search engine. I was also curious about whether to um... go through all the topics on these forums and take all the important stuff out/placed into a folder for a bit of organization. Would be a bonus since if something ever happened to this forum, or if we ever wanted to start afresh again, it wouldn't be that difficult to do so.
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December 24, 2019, 09:18:05 PM
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Fox: Okay, another thought... "gsmagic" could be the code name/project name... and "Golden Sun Magic" could be the more formal official name... (As in using both names.)  -  I still need to look into these other games as well... so who knows if it could be better to call it Camelot Magic if those should ever be supported to a decent standard.  Would probably be a long time from now, though. As I can be pretty lazy.
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Foreclosure: gsmagic is fine
December 17, 2019, 05:44:32 PM
Fox: Also. I call my program "gsmagic" and not "GSMagic" =P (Not asking for correction/I being silly)... Had to call it something, so picked something short.  Maybe I should rename it to Golden Sun Magic later. *shrug*
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Fox: (And "Golden Sun" instead of "GS" to reduce confusion that would likely not be there anyway... when "Golden Sun" doesn't take up much space to start with. (Imagine being new and thinking GS meant GameShark, or some other oddity. Ew.)) - All just thoughts...I'm still going with most of this not mattering that much, though.
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Fox: "Misc. GS Hacking" = That name looks odd, so I'd probably just go with "Golden Sun Hacking"
December 17, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
Fox: I tempted to also suggest the Editors can go in the first category. Since the Editor is the reason this place exists in the first place. (I think.)
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Fox: (combined = Not meant to be taken literally... but rather.... to generalize things more, since it apparently looks like we don't need the extra space no one is using.)
December 17, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
Fox: Worse still... we've only used those for Golden Sun content.... and there's not much there.
December 17, 2019, 04:45:53 PM
Fox: E.g. Maybe everything in "Assets & Discussion" could be combined with "Creative Works".... I don't feel like sound and art apply to general hacking anyway... that only comes into play when you have tools to insert them.
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Fox: categories and/or forums
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Fox: Everything else seems to be about right, though. Perhaps some categories could be combined(?), but doesn't really matter that much.
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Fox: (I still think The Community section fits best at the bottom. =P)
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Salanewt: Heya! I'm planning to get the demo up today, but if you can't wait then it's already available on the Discord.
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Fox: (Then sell the badges on the Trade Center for a very high price... and give a lot of active people coins to buy them with, so they can basically transfer the coins to me if they want something... Gosh I could be a naughty hoarder. =P)
December 15, 2019, 04:06:19 AM
Fox: I'd buy up all the stock for each item too... but man... I think I'm too lazy for that. =P
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Fox: There we go. That should be all of them.
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Fox: Duplicates will still show up as separate entries on the profile as well. Interestingly enough.
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Fox: (Well, one of each badge, at least.)
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Foreclosure: Guys, I really want to see the AI overhaul demo... please fast! :D hehehe
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Fox: In my opinion, even with the old system where it was set up so you could only coin people once per hour... I think it would have been far more fair if we could have also coined ourselves hourly.... since people have favoritism for certain people.... I feel like that could mitigate it some. At least to get badges that people care about the most. - Unlimited coining sounds like a step further than that, which is interesting... :)
December 14, 2019, 01:12:00 AM
Fox: Do note, that people can't coin themselves... but I feel if you got someone who's willing to transfer the coins you give them back to you... it is as though you have that coin option on yourself anyway....
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Fox: Go to any of my forum posts, look for where it says Coins... under that, you'll see [increase] , clicking that will give me coins. You won't lose anything for doing so. Click it as much as you like... Under that, you should see Send Money (a faster option if you got the coins). Use that link to transfer your coins to me of any amount you want. (e.g. Put in 2000, means I get 2000, you lose 2000... but if I've already given you 2000+, you don't really have to see it as actually losing anything.)
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