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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2009, 09:27:58 AM »

Thank you! I try to type as well as I can so that my posts aren't confusing.
I think they should just create cars that run on solar power...There are already some and perhaps is better than a Hemp-powered-car. :p lol
If I'm not mistaken, some fishing nets are forbidden now, due to being too small for young fish to escape. But dolphind and turtles and some other big ocean creatures will still be caught in those nets...
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2009, 06:33:03 PM »

True. Apparently though, in Australia, they are using nets that allow platypuses to surface for air, so they do not drown. This would be a good idea for the oceans as well, so they can just collect the fish that they want with a different net.

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2009, 08:19:19 AM »

Wow, really? Now that's something usefull to be invented. If they can create nets that make it possible for platypuses to breathe than I bet they can easily modify that net into a "Dolphin saving net". Although the problem is someone actually investing in that idea...
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2009, 12:45:01 PM »

Well, if I had enough money, I would definitely do this. In fact, I would probably also invest in Solar cars, or even cars with miniature windmills on it, so the windmills also power up the vehicles. Of course, Solar power and a back-up electric battery would be required, but I would still work for a way to manage it. This was, pollution can eventually be decreased, so the environment is not effected as much, and then the animals are healthier, as well as plants and animals.

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2009, 12:51:03 PM »

I would invest too, but it seems that noone actually cares for stuff like this...
All those lunatically rich people that spend money on worthless junk would do better if they invest on solar powered cars and other things that actually help the planet. Or at least some animals (like the special disgned nets).
Oh, and cars with miniature windmills? Seems a good idea,where did you get that?
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2009, 01:18:44 PM »

I forget. I had it a while ago... Around the same time that I thought of boots with a small amount of air and metal in them, so you could attempt to walk on water with better bouancy. I never got around to making them though... Perhaps that can be one of my little projects coming up soon.

There are people who care for animals, but most of them do not seem to have enough money to spend for investing in things that could help (even if they do have a lot of money, they somehow don't have enough...).

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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2009, 10:31:53 AM »


There are people who care for animals, but most of them do not seem to have enough money to spend for investing in things that could help (even if they do have a lot of money, they somehow don't have enough...).

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"God gives nuts to those who don't have teeth." :p it's a saying,although it's literally translated from my language.
Investing in new things isn't cheap... But it's worth it. Or atleast to those who care about animals/the planet.
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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2009, 04:50:25 PM »

That is logical.

Well, one day, I am sure that everyone will realize how important it is to keep animals alive, but it is sad to think that it might be too late by the time everyone else has this epiphany.

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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2009, 05:02:42 PM »

...How important it is that we steer Natural Selection in the direction we think it should go?

I'm going to walk over here and laugh as y'all set everything up for the next MEE.
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2009, 05:05:10 PM »

???

I still do not consider cars natural, or guns, knives, drugs, or any manufactured product that can do any harm. They may be made from natural resources, but they themselves are not straight from the environment.

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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2009, 05:08:50 PM »

...What the hell are you talking about?

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Well, one day, I am sure that everyone will realize how important it is to keep animals alive, but it is sad to think that it might be too late by the time everyone else has this epiphany.

Keeping animals alive?  Really?  I don't think that's your call, boya.  When the time comes for the next Mass Extinction Event (MEE), it's all adapt or die.  If you spent all your resources saving all the fscking whales and lame-arse polar bears, then when the time comes, we're fscked ourselves.  There's nothing we can do, because we lack the resources necessary for how human adaptation has evolved.  Thus, unable to adapt to the sudden events brought about by the MME, we become one of the 99% of Ex-species.

SCREW THE ANIMALS, I'll choose the survival of my species over those lesser life forms I prefer to call LUNCH.
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2009, 05:18:06 PM »

To be honest, I would rather risk the life of a human who I do not know than that of an animal. They have done very little, and we are destroying the planet.

Besides, the population of humans used to be in the millions... Now we are in the billions! Besides, adapting to the "next MEE" could be caused by humans or by nature, it is hard to say.

Also, when you say "Screw the animals", you can't forget that WE ARE in the animal kingdom, in the phylum Chordata, Order Mammalia. So, when you say "Screw the animals", you are practically saying to screw humans too, lol. I know that you mean the lower life forms, but we need ot keep them alive because they are what keeps our food chains around.

Besides, if there were no more fish, or no more deer, there would be people who lose jobs. If no more dogs or cats, then there would be none available for training for the blind, or to help fight crime (drug sniffers). What a sad life that would be, if humans were the only members of the animal kingdom left. There would be no lunch unless you become a cannibal.

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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2009, 06:09:42 PM »

How cute, your argument against me is "but but... you're an animal too!"

NO.  I'm a Race.  There are Animals, which rely primarily on instinct, and are backed up by rational thought...
Then there are Races, which rely primarily on rational thought, and are backed up by instinct.

Basically, an animal's driving force is instinctual.
A Race's driving force is more 'rational', something requiring more complex thought processes.

There's a point, Sala, where a species transcends from an animal species to a race species.  Humans are beyond that point, Sala.  We are ruled by Rational (and sometimes Irrational) thought, and our instincts are VERY OFTEN overruled by those logical thought processes.  Logic and reason trump our survival instincts all the time.  It's what sets us apart - instinct we can just set aside.  Other animals are bound by it.

You can see other primates, which are close to the line.  Chimpanzees in particular are VERY close to crossing the line from animal to race.  When they will is probably several millennia in the future... IF WE LEAVE THEM THE HELL ALONE.  If we try to keep them as chimpanzees, and blame any mutations on human interference, then we're PREVENTING THEIR PROPER EVOLUTION.  We have been meddling too much.  Save the animals?  THAT WILL KILL THEM IN THE LONG RUN.  Adapt or die.  That is the way of natural selection.  The weak genes die out, and the strong ones survive.  If an animal is about to go extinct, it had WEAK GENES.  If it lived, the genes were strong.  By preserving weak animals, we preserve weak genes, an this totally screws up the process of natural selection.

SCREW THE ANIMALS.  Forget them, they can survive on their own (or if they can't, they didn't deserve to).  BILLIONS of years of evolution went into making them lean, mean, survival machines after all!  And those processes are still trying to work properly! If we don't interfere and meddle, if we don't say "save the wales" or "think of the polar bears", then they can properly sort out weak vs strong genes.  But if we actively try to preserve them, we SCREW EVERYTHING UP.
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2009, 08:00:18 PM »

Well, the animals can survive on their own, but human activity which harms them isn't excactly letting the animals help themselves.

Technically, there are even sub-races in species, so humans as a race... I prefer to call them a species.

Besides, I never said to go out of your way to save them (well, maybe I did), but it is better to avoid doing things to harm them to help them. Some of the things that you say do make sense, but they are paired up with other points that do not mix well together. I agree that keeping them in zoos or in labs to prevent them from going extinct is incorrect, but keeping them alive helps them survive. I barely mind if an animal goes extinct (I would rather see a live specimin first), but I do not agree with humans speeding things up. Killing and testing on animals is not good, but to kill to survive? Sure, why not. However, I would only do so if I were forced to.

In the ideal world, we as humans would be pets, and dogs as our owners.

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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2009, 08:23:18 PM »

Species refers to organisms as a whole.
Animals refers to organisms in the Kingdom Animalia that override reason with instinct.
Races refers to organisms in the Kingdom Animalia that override instinct with reason.

Humans are a species, yes, but we've evolved past simple animals.  Our sentience and complex thought patterns are what proves that we are beyond common animals.

Humans are predators.  If it harms them, it's probably because we're going to consume them (one way or another).  You know, top of the food chain and all.  Also, that testing thing?  That falls under KILL TO SURVIVE for our species.  We're trying to create medicines to cure illness.  But, if we don't test them first, those medicine may kill us instead.  This is REASON hard at work.  However, reason is a fickle mistress.  While reason has allowed us to thrive and bend the world to our will, it has also confused us into thinking that this is OUR planet, rather than we being our planet's species.  This isn't our planet.  We're just this era's primary renters, but Earth kinda owns it, and without warning, we can be given the boot.  However, in our confusion in thinking that this planet is ours, we also foolishly think that the stuff that happens on it is caused by us.  Is a species dying out?  Natural Selection be damned, we're at fault and have to save it!  Polar Bears?  SWIMMING?!  Nevermind that their numbers are on the rise, we're killing them off!  Summer is hot?  Crap, global warming!  Winter is cold?  Crap, climate change!

Doods, seriously.  Chill.  Do you honestly think that our meager 20000 years of human knowledge can trump 5 BILLION years of natural selection?  Really?

Okay, fine, I admit, if we nuke the freaking hell out of everything, we may have fscked up beyond reason, and caused the MEE ourselves.  But that doesn't mean that what we're doing now is fscking everything up.  Climate change is coming?  Don't try to fight it.  Adapt or die.  You didn't kill the polar bears.  Hell, the polar bears seem to love this weather, since THEIR NUMBERS ARE ON THE RISE.  Data doesn't like, peeps.  Listen to the data, not that hypocritical dumbass Gore.  Meat is bad for you and makes you fat?  Well, for starters, we're OMNIVOROUS.  We need a balance of meats, veggies, fruits, etc...  Not eating meat messes up your body chemistry and is actually UNHEALTHY for you if you don't compensate with vitamins and something.  And it's CARBS that make you fat, not Meat.  You know... PLANTS.

Animals have the right to be in my stomach, worn on my back, and drugged until the companies are absolutely sure that the Excedrin I take for headaches won't kill me instead of the headache I took it for.  Oh, and they have the right to struggle to survive, as they have done for BILLIONS OF YEARS.



*reads the humans are subservient to dogs bit*

Oh.  OOOOH.  Now I get it.  You're a PETAphile.  Ewwww.  Shoo shoo, get away from me you sick furry freak.   Take you and your crazy vegan FAIL the heck away from me.  I'll eat deer babies in front of you.  I mean it.  Back, back, foul beast, or Bambi gets it!
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