Pokémon!

[Salanewt]

Yeah, but I prefer this world over Jupiter (too big, too many storms, not enough oxygen). Well, you are the lucky guy. Have fun playing Black (and please tell me if and where you catch a Tokay).

Have a nice day.

[leaf]

Anything and everything that gets encourage is amazing. We may not know how much the boost is yet, but my intuition tells me it's gonna be a 1.1x boost, which is still quite respectable coming from an ability. The downside of not getting secondary effects on attacks is pretty much negligible.

Earthquake spiral is probably gonna be pretty bad. It raises the atk of the poke every time they knock another poke out (not sure about satk) by an unknown amount. I don't think anyone is gonna go for spiral over intimidate on #553. And it's kind of a waste on #560, who is defensive in nature.

The hydra (dark/dragon poke - #635) looks scary, too (well, it looks awesome, but I mean the stats/ability/typing). That's some nice satk, and enough atk to easily go mixed. The dude basically screams draco meteor spam. Of course, if it gets a healing move (like roost) it'll be beastly defensively, too.

edit: Role, looks like your wish for more plus/minus pokemon has been granted. Ampharos and manectric get them.

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/dreamworldabilities.shtml

There are a bunch of awesome abilities in there that could really change the game. Like ninetails and politoed with drought and drizzle... and all the starters/legendaries with generic abilities get something new, too. Entei might actually be semi-viable now!

edit: Wow, some of these abilities are really beast. The dark/fighting #560 even gets intimidate as an alternate ability from the dream world. That thing is gonna be mad good. There's really too much to comment on here, but I think speed boost blaziken and so many pokes getting shadow tag deserve mention >_>

[Salanewt]

Sounds interesting. Also, did anyone else notice that Victini comes sooner in the Pokedex? Before the starter Pokemon...

Have a nice day.

[MaxiPower]

Sounds interesting. Also, did anyone else notice that Victini comes sooner in the Pokedex? Before the starter Pokemon...

Have a nice day.

yup i saw that, weird, y like, y could they not stick it at the bottem

[Rolina]

Doods, this is OLD NEWS.  Victini is #0 in the pokedex - probably all thew future Mews will be.

Also, I can't wait for the new abilities to be uploaded and explained.  A Gallade without steadfast?  YES PLEASE!

Also, Speed Boost Blaziken?  DAYUM.  Now it may be a bit more viable.

@Plus and Minus:  Niiice.  ^-^

Also, something I really like?

New music when you're low on HP, rather than just the old beeping.

OMG... GARY MF OAK BATTLE?!  NO WAI!

[MaxiPower]

Doods, this is OLD NEWS.  Victini is #0 in the pokedex - probably all thew future Mews will be.

Also, I can't wait for the new abilities to be uploaded and explained.  A Gallade without steadfast?  YES PLEASE!

Also, Speed Boost Blaziken?  DAYUM.  Now it may be a bit more viable.

@Plus and Minus:  Niiice.  ^-^

Also, something I really like?

New music when you're low on HP, rather than just the old beeping.

OMG... GARY MF OAK BATTLE?!  NO WAI!

Yea i heard the new music, its a nice change but i must stress that the Music and sound effects in this game are god awful, seriously I cannont play this game with the sound on.. Them two tunes are okay like, but soundeffects dont sound pokemon and it just seems not like its missing something

[Rolina]

You're pathetic, Maxi. >_>

You're so determined to hate the game, that you'd even try to bash the music, when the music's pretty good.  Sure, it's not touhou-good, but it's still pretty good nontheless.

[Salanewt]

I can see Maxi's point, but I almost always hate the music in games (Pokemon is worse than Mario, which has actually had some nicer music recently (not to mention some of the classic themes)). Basically, the only games that I find have good music are the Mario/Yoshi/DK games, Zelda, and Golden Sun. To be fair, I do not play Metroid or Star Fox games very often, and some of the samples that were in Brawl sounded nice. As for Pokemon, I have always hated their music, causing me to turn it off without a warning. Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald were somewhat bearable at times, but I normally muted them after the second or third battle. I tried for Diamond/Platinum, but they were so much worse.

Have a nice day.

[Rolina]

That I can understand - however, suddenly saying that it "doesn't sound like Pokemon?"

That just sounds so noobish that it's almost like he's never played the games before.

[Salanewt]

I guess you have a point, although the music does change a bit in each generation (for example, compare Sapphire's desert theme against any of Diamond's songs, and you can tell the difference).

Those songs do not sound nearly as awful as the fourth generation games, as they use a healthy mix of instruments. I have to agree with Maxi on the beeping sound effects. In fact, the music is a bit more bearable than it has been in the past... Still not something that I would turn up the speakers for, but it is something that I can tolerate when playing. Of course, I am waiting for the third game before I get one, if I do.

Have a nice day.

[MaxiPower]

You're pathetic, Maxi. >_>

You're so determined to hate the game, that you'd even try to bash the music, when the music's pretty good.  Sure, it's not touhou-good, but it's still pretty good nontheless.

I will put this in bold as its important

I LOVE POKEMON

I loaded up the game like a we girl excited like i got a new doll

nah i thought there was something wrong with my speakers on my DS. but it just is the bad music haha

I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE MUSIC

The ROM has bad music, seriously, its like listening to song with one speaker, only half the song

[Kain]

Playing HeartGold.  Ran into Raikou.  Didn't have a pokemon set to inflict a status effect.  Threw a Fast Ball for kicks and giggles.  Caught him.  asdfghjkl;

[Aile~♥]

@Overlord Kain: Playing Soulsilver. Togepi egg hatched. Went to check it's moveset. First thing I notice: OMGOSH SOMETHING OTHER THAN HUSTLE ASDFGH AMAZING!

Second thing I notice: Wait, WHAAAAT???? EXTRASENSORY??? AT LEVEL ONE? HUH?

...Which is of course why I used it (as a Togetic, mind you) to mop the floor with Morty's gym trainers and Morty all by itself. It went from level 22 to level 28 in one gym. EXTRASENSORY! *stuff dies*

@Sala: HOW DARE YOU BASH GEN 4 MUSIC GEN 4 HAS AWESOME MUSIC ASDF U!

@Role: New Gallade sucks for not having Telepathy like the rest of the Ralts line. Instead all it does is boost it's Attack whenever it gets hit with the Dark type.

[leaf]

Eh... telepathy is only good in double and triple battles. In singles, gallade made out better. Like... a lot better.

[Salanewt]

@Sala: HOW DARE YOU BASH GEN 4 MUSIC GEN 4 HAS AWESOME MUSIC ASDF U!

So you mean to tell me that you can stand it? My gosh, it is almost as bad as those songs written by bands where the band mistakes a chalkboard for a guitar, and then they start scratching away with their nails as the lady who is a horrible singer attempts to moan (and I was forced to listen to almost an hour of it at school today). I am just saying that I would rather remove the speakers from my DS than sit down in a chair to listen to generation 4 music for five minutes (or any Pokemon really). Also, what on earth does "asdf" mean?

When I fight the Champion, I can put some Doors music on! "This is the end, my only friend the end." Die Cynthia, this is the end! You are going to go out just like Jimmy did! Mwahahahahahaha (R.I.P. Jimmy Morrison). If I start to lose, I will just play Help!.

Yeah, I would prefer Gallade's ability in single battles, which are much more common than double battles. I would be lucky to run into five double battles in Diamond/Platinum, as I would normally trigger one person before another (causing the double battle to become a single). I think the GBA Pokemon games were a tiny bit better at having double battles than these ones.

Edit: Actually, Light My Fire would be a better song to play when fighting Cynthia. The End has a slower pace than what I use during battle.
Have a nice day.

[Aile~♥]

Gen 4 has great music. Gen 3's music was awful, even for the GBA. But apparently they figured out that it WAS in fact possible to have decent music on a handheld.

[Charon]

Now come on. Gen III's music wasn't that bad. Not bad at all. All 1 of the battle songs were good.

[Salanewt]

Gen 4 has great music. Gen 3's music was awful, even for the GBA. But apparently they figured out that it WAS in fact possible to have decent music on a handheld.

It would be better if they had a nice range of instruments. Most of them have higher instuments, and it makes the majority of the music sound deathly in my ears. For example, there was nothing stopping them from using a pan flute or a clarinet, was there? You have to admit that there can be no comparison between Pokemon and Golden Sun though.

Have a nice day.

[Drick]

I liked pretty much all the music from all the games as well as pretty much everything else because I'm a bro and don't look for things to dislike

And no I'm not calling out anyone I read the posts I'm glad pretty much everyone still loves the games!

But still from my point of view the new generation is the best yet. Not necessarily because of the Pokemon (but there are some pretty cool ones), just because of all the new things they've thrown onto the table (There is a PLOT! An actual plot!). Seriously I've said to myself "This is the best Pokemon game yet!" and I've NEVER thought that to myself about any other!

Also my Pokemon team:

---Xeno--Zielkov----Jacob--Jack-----Flux---Walter----Ramses---

Ghost x4, Dark x2, Dark-Ghost x1. lawls

[Rolina]

I call bullshit.  That's a 7-mon team!