Suggestion for the Editor

[dwkjohn]

you just have a slow computer. it only takes a few seconds for me.

[Rolina]

Could we possibly copy+paste classes or spells and their levels needed etc...?

One thing I've been hating so far in making the classes is having to continuously search for the same attack 5 times (Which takes awhile.) It would be nice if I could just copy+paste Growth from one class to another.

THIS.

GOOD GOD, THIS.  Oh, here's an idea, can you let me type it out in a field instead of search for it well?  That'd be much better.

[Onikapitua]

Could we possibly copy+paste classes or spells and their levels needed etc...?

One thing I've been hating so far in making the classes is having to continuously search for the same attack 5 times (Which takes awhile.) It would be nice if I could just copy+paste Growth from one class to another.

Also, is it just me computer, or is the map viewer INCREDIBLY slow!? Like, it's SUCH a drag just to move the screen down! Is it just my computer???

I too support this notion/feature.

[Salanewt]

Sorry to throw another suggestion like this, but I have one that would be extremely useful to some of us. In the map viewer, would it be possible for NPCs to have the offsets to their scripts/events in the same window that you can edit things like text or current sprite? I have been trying to edit this one script for about a week, but the game keeps reading my branch code as if it were grabbing text from the database itself. The editor already does this for some NPCs, but the ones that have pre-programmed idle behaviour are difficult for me to find.

Thanks for reading my request.

[Mion Sonozaki]

One feature I would really love is the ability to edit chests. It is only a step closer to making hacks with completely new content! ;)

[jmillart]

How about in the next version we have a feature to edit the names of the ability's, items, etc. It would really help me when I edit things like making the wheat sword. 

I think we should go beyond that. Make it so we can add new items by changing the limit number and then editing the blanks to whatever we want. It probably wouldn't take too much coding then we could use the same technique to add new creatures, battlers psynergy, ect.

[Atrius (He/Him)]

Why the hell is this a new topic?  Seriously, jmillart, seriously?

*Merges it with the topic it's actually a reply to*

For the love of god, please stop pushing this "Make it so we can add new slots" thing in EVERY SINGLE TOPIC that you make.  It's something I already plan to add to the editor eventually, but it's not as easy as you make it sound.  Data has to be shifted around to create room for those new slots, and all of the old pointers to that data need to be fixed to the new location.  The code has to be patched to support the new limit, IF EVEN POSSIBLE, which in some cases (New party members) it is not.  Just finding all of the pointers, and code references alone is a ton of work.  Do you have any idea how many functions there are in the game's code that reference items alone?  You can't just go in there and change one number and have it magically work.

[ThanatosTheDark]

I don't know if this was asked yet, but how about making the unleashed animations easier to set.
An example: You can see the sprites for heartbreak(thanatos mace unleash) but you can't see the sprites of vorpal slash.

[Rolina]

You're talking about an animation editor, which is a planned feature.

[Mion Sonozaki]

I'm really excited for ANYTHING related to map editing!

[Rolina]

We're getting to the point that we're repeating suggestions...

Not only that, but that's two people who have suggested the addition of a feature that's already planned.  Rather than suggesting something we're definitely going to get, like an Animation editor or a Map editor, why not suggest features FOR said editors?  Things you'd like to be able to do with it, other than the obvious.

[ThanatosTheDark]

How about making it customizable like the menus in the game. Instead of that boring teal color, let's make it blue of green or red,ect.

[leaf]

How about we not ask for things that are completely pointless?

[Misery]

May I suggest putting up a list somewhere with the additional features planned for the next version?
Another thing that should be listed is what type of changes/additions are not what the editor is supposed to do. Things like changing the game's core mechanics, adding new features with no semblance to anything present in the game, or things that are just completely unrelated. The latter wouldn't be an extensive list of course. I just think it would be good to have a clear explanation of the purpose of the editor posted for new users who seem to mistake it for a game making tool.

[Rolina]

Another thing that should be listed is what type of changes/additions are not what the editor is supposed to do.

Let me see if I got this right... you want to suggest that the editor should do the things it's pretty much guaranteed not to do?  PLEASE tell me I misread that.

[Mion Sonozaki]

Not sure what kind of thread belongs in, but it would be nice to have the "Call" creatures index documented, and have the editor able to modify them. I.e. instead of Call Zombie, we can have Call Vermin.

Another is the "special" properties of certain bosses. I.e. Sentinel's immunities, and Poseidon's trident requirement. 

[Misery]

Another thing that should be listed is what type of changes/additions are not what the editor is supposed to do.

Let me see if I got this right... you want to suggest that the editor should do the things it's pretty much guaranteed not to do?  PLEASE tell me I misread that.

No, what I'm suggesting is we let people know what kind of features are not supposed to be in the editor, so they stop asking about it. Granted, someone will still do that anyway, but then you can at least redirect them and say "did you read THIS?". A definition of what the editor is meant for should be sufficient though. Emphasis on "should".

Not sure what kind of thread belongs in, but it would be nice to have the "Call" creatures index documented, and have the editor able to modify them. I.e. instead of Call Zombie, we can have Call Vermin.

Another is the "special" properties of certain bosses. I.e. Sentinel's immunities, and Poseidon's trident requirement.  

For the call psynergies I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of finding out where the variable that defines which enemy index should be used is read from, and then it should be simple to implement. It does refer to enemies rather than sprites, so you can change the monster being called by changing the sprite used for that enemy index, but that's a pretty crude way of doing it and still limits the variety of monsters you can call. I was interested in this for a while, but now I know I'm not going to need it for a long time.

For the special properties, they are apparently tied to specific enemy indexes, so it might not be possible to have more than one enemy with each ability unless you rewrite the code for it completely. But what do I know.

[Rolina]

Okay, glad I misread that.  I thought I was gonna have to stab someone for a second.  We also have a post for things that require ASM editing already, which appears to be something Atrius is putting off as long as he possibly can.  I suppose someone could put together a post for that, but... well, it seems to be something that SHOULD be obvious, unlike the ASM thread...

[Misery]

We also have a post for things that require ASM editing already, which appears to be something Atrius is putting off as long as he possibly can.

Such a thread would list *suggested* features that can be implemented by changing a part of the code, am I right? I sure hope you're not expecting anyone to think up every little tweak that could be made.

This would be handled in a similar manner, listing suggestions that have been rejected, and why they will not be included in the editor (or worse yet, are impossible to do within the limits of the game). Nothing is really obvious if you don't have a clue about how a game works, listing these things would probably reduce repeat questions. And I'm sure we all realize that fewer rage buttons pressed makes a friendlier forum.

[Rolina]

http://forum.goldensunhacking.net/index.php?topic=1422.0

That's the ASM editor.  They're things necessary for a hack, but can't be done until Atrius finally starts cracking into ASM.