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« on: April 03, 2010, 03:23:48 AM »

You may or may not have noticed that the "Home" button on the navigation bar no longer takes you to the forum index, and there's now a separate "Forum" button.  That's because Golden Sun Hacking Community is about to undergo a big change, the addition of a website which will be seamlessly integrated with the forums able to pull data off of them, and even use the theme you have selected in your profile.  Don't worry though, the actual forums themselves will remain largely untouched.

One thing I'd also like to do as part of this is to rework the downloads section to make it more integrated with the rest of the site.  Although it's a very nice feature it doesn't seem like people are even using it at all, they're just posting their downloads as attachments to topics on the forum instead.  Although I have a rough idea of what I'd like to do, any suggestions on how to go about fixing this would be greatly appreciated.

I'm going to need a couple writers to help build the informational pages on the website about the editor, Golden Sun games, and our community.  I haven't fully decided what all will be included about the games, whether we'll just have a brief synopsis of them along with information on glitches, and some trivia that was discovered about them through hacking, or have a detailed guides of all the items, attacks, enemies, locations, e.t.c. for them.  That depends on what the writers want to do, although I'll likely automate some of the data gathering process if we choose to go that detailed.  To apply for a job as a writer send me an example of your work, preferably through personal message.  A brief summary of one of the games, characters, locations, or anything encyclopedic in nature will do.  Insightfulness, writing style (personality?), as well as spelling & grammar will all be taken into account.  I'd also like to include a detailed guide on the use of the Golden Sun TLA Editor on the website as well, though I haven't decided if I want to do that myself or pass it off to someone else yet.


EDIT: Just to clarify, HTML experience is not needed to apply.  I'll handle the layout & formatting of the pages, you'll only have to write the actual information on them.
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 11:32:38 AM »

By work, you mean something that we have written, right? I might apply for a website writing position, but I do not know how busy I will be this weekend.

As for the downloads section, why not just add a "Miscellaneous" section on the main page, and then add things like affiliates, downloads, etc.? For downloads, I would separate it into sections, like...

Downloads;
Golden Sun
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Something like this might help. Of course, I am not sure if "Other" should be included on a website solely based on Golden Sun.

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 11:39:10 AM »

I take it you didn't even realize we already have a downloads section >_<
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 12:54:48 PM »

I have known about it for a while, but you said...

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One thing I'd also like to do as part of this is to rework the downloads section to make it more integrated with the rest of the site.


In fact, the reason why I have not placed my hack in that section is because I want to develop it first.

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2010, 08:17:46 PM »

I look at the downloads tab once a month to see if anything changes, but it never does. Reason I haven't uploaded my hack to it is because I want to finish it before I add it to that section, HOWEVER, in my next update I shall add it to the list, just for you :D
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 01:28:39 AM »

I would love to help out if I may!
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2010, 04:24:03 AM »

I can't wait to see a sample of your work then.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2010, 01:56:20 PM »

I could help out aswell, seeing as the only thing I'm currently doing is playing Bioshock on my XBOX.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2010, 09:31:36 AM »

 Exclamation I would also love to help... if you need more people, that is. I sent a PM to Role, applying for being a contributor for the main project. If i am accepted, then maybe I'll start with a document for the website. Just give me a few words about what you want to put on there, and I'll write something up with the proper links and information. I'm also wonder what sort of spelling the site will use. I am Canadian, so personally, I use Canadian spelling. I can do U.S. spelling too, if that is what you would rather use.  Alex
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2010, 02:14:31 PM »

Don't tell me you's have your own way of spelling also.... cough cough, nothing like the original....
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2010, 07:03:37 PM »

The Canadian English spellings are closer to the UK (like with color vs. colour), but are still different (and no method is correct over the other, though English in one country is generally preferred if it is what is usually used in that country).

Before getting too off topic though, I do have a question. Atrius? Are you going to make a list of who is helping out with the website, or is it going to be a private group (as for who is writing articles, etc.)?

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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010, 07:40:00 PM »

Don't tell me you's have your own way of spelling also.... cough cough, nothing like the original....
I think everyone does, just to be national jerks. Irate Original English spelling used to be comprised of what people thought the words should be spelled like. Until a few people got tired of it and invented a dictionary, English was a flying mess. People ended up making the dictionaries for their communities and provinces, and thus English spelling ended up being different depending on where you go. Happy

The Canadian English spellings are closer to the UK (like with color vs. colour), but are still different (and no method is correct over the other, though English in one country is generally preferred if it is what is usually used in that country).

Before getting too off topic though, I do have a question. Atrius? Are you going to make a list of who is helping out with the website, or is it going to be a private group (as for who is writing articles, etc.)?

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I have an option that will allow me to change the spell check on OpenOffice, so I can use that to suit the needs of the website. Happy I have noticed that the spelling seems closer for Canada and the UK, but it's pretty radically different if you look at US v.s. Canadian spellings.
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2010, 10:29:18 PM »

How about a Golden Sun Wiki? I know there is a big one already, but... We could be a much bigger website like how SonicRetro is.
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2010, 09:04:58 AM »

The website is completely separate from the community hack project, you'll have to apply for them separately.  There will be a list on the site of people that helped create it.

As for nationality spelling to use, if the viewing statistics for the Youtube videos I've uploaded are any indication of our audience American comes in first place at 47% with Canadian following in second at only 8%

I have no intentions of doing anything as in-depth as a Wiki. I simply don't have the right resources to host it on the same server as our forums & website, and I support the existing Golden Sun wiki, I certainly don't mean to oppose them.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2010, 09:19:53 AM »

As for nationality spelling to use, if the viewing statistics for the Youtube videos I've uploaded are any indication of our audience American comes in first place at 47% with Canadian following in second at only 8%

Looks like I'll have to change my settings for that then. ^^ I love how one click of a button can change what is right and wrong in the English language. XD
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2010, 08:00:35 AM »

Personally, I'm not a fan of a wiki...

However, a Hack Index would be a good idea.  This would be a place documenting the various hacks.  I figure there'd be a couple overall categories - Remixes and Reworks.

Remixes are basically all we've got right now - they're hacks that keep the story intact, but change things like enemy drops, or perhaps additional areas.
Reworks take the engine and basically make a new game with it.  It could be GS in nature, or it could be something totally different.

We'd also have the top rated in each category show up, but the main point is to give a summary of the hack to give people a better understanding of what to expect when they download it.
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2010, 04:04:06 AM »

For all the people that said they wanted to help, there sure is a lack of applications in my message box.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2010, 05:36:34 AM »

My HTML is waaaay rusty, and sadly, I'm not that great at describing things too well.  Usually takes two or three tries to get the other person to realize what I'm trying to say.  Sad, really...

But I can make suggestions.  Like I said, I'm not a big fan of a Wiki.  I mean... what would we say?  No, leave the wiki to GSU's wiki.  Instead, we should have a comprehensive Hack index, which goes in depth into what you can find in each of the hacks available for download.  It could be done wiki-like, sure, but I think it's something we should have.  That way, people can make an informed decision as to what downloads they want to use and which ones they wanna pass on.

Not everyone wants a crazy hard hack, after all.  Likewise, some people may want to play a new game, rather than a remake of the old game.  That guide idea can help people figure out which ones are the right ones for them.

As for the actual website, though... I ain't gotta clue as to how it should be done.  I can help with colors and all, and maybe some suggestions as to arrange it in a more user-friendly fashion, but...
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2010, 05:54:16 AM »

The idea is to keep it as integrated with the forums as possible, so it's going to pull it's style straight from the forum's themes matching with whichever one the user has selected.

Knowledge of HTML is not needed to apply.

The Hack index would be nice if we had the time & willingness to play through each and every hack submitted.  No, it's up to the creator to properly describe, and advertise their hack in it's description when they upload it to the download system, which I eventually want to redesign to give it more of that hack index feel you want.  It does still depend a lot on the creators knowing how to advertise their submissions, but I'd like to add a review system as well so other people can help them out some if they feel the need.  It would also be nice to maybe do monthly hack awards if we ever have enough activity to justify it, and most underrated hack listings every so often for good ones that get overlooked.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2010, 06:03:39 AM »

Oh, that's cool.  I agree with the review system as well.  Not just a ratings system, though, but a fully fledged review system.  You cannot rate it without writing a review - this way we don't have people spamming bad or good ratings just because they can.

Also... not sure about monthly.  Quarterly sounds more reasonable, until the v1.0 comes out.  When it's out, we should be able to do a LOT more, so it'd be much easier to get these things out there.

I mean, I've got three hacks I wanna work on:  The Community Hack, my Personal Hack, and my GS:LAR project.  But until we get at least to V0.3, I really can't do much with them.
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February 26, 2020, 05:17:44 AM
Salanewt: New patch up; waited until now to make it because it's such a basic change, but it's here now.
February 25, 2020, 03:20:41 AM
Salanewt: Hey! Yeah, we can now make recoil damage in GS. Would you mind if I ask for a link to this video? I'm really curious. :P
February 24, 2020, 09:38:49 PM
Foreclosure: Alas, I still gotta play BoF dragon quarters. I saw on a video you guys can now make recoil damage in golden sun. Is it too hard?
February 17, 2020, 04:54:34 AM
Fox: I guess one thing this game has going for it is the Day and Night cycle.
February 17, 2020, 04:51:46 AM
Fox: Also, I noticed since the very beginning of the game, that usually the dresser drawers (whatever you call them) have items in them.
February 17, 2020, 04:48:20 AM
Fox: (And I only recently got Karn, the fourth PC.)
February 17, 2020, 04:36:01 AM
Fox: Was playing Breath of Fire I.... and I must say.... that game's pretty bland.... listening to the same songs basically everywhere... and multiple NPCs saying the exact same thing.  Most of it plays about the same... a maze with common useless items in chests, maybe you'll get one or two fine equipment, but yeah.  ... I want to check #II again later, the game I remember playing like... over a decade ago.
February 04, 2020, 08:06:18 AM
Salanewt: We're more active on the Discord though.
February 04, 2020, 08:06:01 AM
Salanewt: Oh hey! It does, yeah.
February 02, 2020, 06:42:38 PM
Mastermind: holy crap this place still exists?
December 24, 2019, 09:33:09 PM
Fox: Even just plain Editor work can make some difference. = At least these forums are indexed on the Search engine. I was also curious about whether to um... go through all the topics on these forums and take all the important stuff out/placed into a folder for a bit of organization. Would be a bonus since if something ever happened to this forum, or if we ever wanted to start afresh again, it wouldn't be that difficult to do so.
December 24, 2019, 09:23:03 PM
Fox: One thing is for sure. This place has become completely dead. (Mostly because of Discord.)  = I don't think much will happen with this forum unless I, Salanewt, or someone else does a thing.
December 24, 2019, 09:18:05 PM
Fox: Probably not?
December 24, 2019, 06:51:08 PM
Luna_blade: I suppose this is the last Christmas of this forum? 
December 24, 2019, 06:50:51 PM
Luna_blade: Yay thanks for the coins
December 19, 2019, 04:39:45 AM
Fox: Okay, another thought... "gsmagic" could be the code name/project name... and "Golden Sun Magic" could be the more formal official name... (As in using both names.)  -  I still need to look into these other games as well... so who knows if it could be better to call it Camelot Magic if those should ever be supported to a decent standard.  Would probably be a long time from now, though. As I can be pretty lazy.
December 18, 2019, 10:01:39 PM
Foreclosure: gsmagic is fine
December 17, 2019, 05:44:32 PM
Fox: Also. I call my program "gsmagic" and not "GSMagic" =P (Not asking for correction/I being silly)... Had to call it something, so picked something short.  Maybe I should rename it to Golden Sun Magic later. *shrug*
December 17, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
Fox: (And "Golden Sun" instead of "GS" to reduce confusion that would likely not be there anyway... when "Golden Sun" doesn't take up much space to start with. (Imagine being new and thinking GS meant GameShark, or some other oddity. Ew.)) - All just thoughts...I'm still going with most of this not mattering that much, though.
December 17, 2019, 05:12:55 PM
Fox: "Misc. GS Hacking" = That name looks odd, so I'd probably just go with "Golden Sun Hacking"
December 17, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
Fox: I tempted to also suggest the Editors can go in the first category. Since the Editor is the reason this place exists in the first place. (I think.)
December 17, 2019, 04:53:19 PM
Fox: (combined = Not meant to be taken literally... but rather.... to generalize things more, since it apparently looks like we don't need the extra space no one is using.)
December 17, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
Fox: Worse still... we've only used those for Golden Sun content.... and there's not much there.
December 17, 2019, 04:45:53 PM
Fox: E.g. Maybe everything in "Assets & Discussion" could be combined with "Creative Works".... I don't feel like sound and art apply to general hacking anyway... that only comes into play when you have tools to insert them.
December 17, 2019, 04:40:26 PM
Fox: categories and/or forums
December 17, 2019, 04:36:48 PM
Fox: Everything else seems to be about right, though. Perhaps some categories could be combined(?), but doesn't really matter that much.
December 17, 2019, 04:33:03 PM
Fox: (I still think The Community section fits best at the bottom. =P)
December 15, 2019, 05:10:04 PM
Salanewt: Heya! I'm planning to get the demo up today, but if you can't wait then it's already available on the Discord.
December 15, 2019, 04:12:27 AM
Fox: (Then sell the badges on the Trade Center for a very high price... and give a lot of active people coins to buy them with, so they can basically transfer the coins to me if they want something... Gosh I could be a naughty hoarder. =P)
December 15, 2019, 04:06:19 AM
Fox: I'd buy up all the stock for each item too... but man... I think I'm too lazy for that. =P

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