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The Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Marin on 25, May, 2011, 07:57:30 PM

Title: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 25, May, 2011, 07:57:30 PM
Hello, forum!
I'm Marin, Mari for short. (Pronounced like Mary)

I'm a gamer, a roleplayer and a musician of sorts.
I play a lot of first person shooters, and ocassionally an RPG. (I'm an online focused gamer, so I tend to only play RPGs once through.) I typically roleplay over MSN or in chat rooms, and I like to think I'm very good at what I do. Perhaps the only part anyone wants to hear about is my music. Pun fully intentional. I digitally arrange music. That is to say I take note sheets and cook them up into awesome for your ears. At some point or another I'll be putting my work up to be listened to.

In truth, I came here because the community is large and the forum has nice features. That and I love Golden Sun! I hope to make lots of friends and maybe get myself some new roleplay buddies. Maybe I'll even get involved with this whole hacking business. Who knows? I sure don't so if /you/ do that would be pretty scary. Some of my favorite games are Megaman, Zelda, Golden Sun (duh!), Pokemon, Global Agenda, Left 4 Dead, Halo 1, Star Wars Jedi Academy, Movie Battles 2, and Super Smash Bros Brawl.

Hope to see y'all around!~
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Griever on 25, May, 2011, 08:02:31 PM
Welcome to the forum, try to have fun here. Follow the rules and stay out of trouble ^_^  and be active.

As for hacking ... we mainly use the editor that Atrius is working on improving so it won't be hard to learn ... in fact is super easy ..... and if you run into problems we can help -.-

Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Hoopa on 25, May, 2011, 09:00:47 PM
Well nice to meet you Mari. Make sure to read the rules, but other than that enjoy your stay here.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: dwkjohn on 25, May, 2011, 09:23:09 PM
The rules are important. If you have any questions, ask Charon the Ferryman. Feel free to search the forums. I am always finding new cool stuff. So, welcome aboard! :happy:
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: leaf on 25, May, 2011, 09:51:55 PM
Hey, welcome! I'm not gonna repeat the same old boring thing about the rules, since you've clearly heard enough of that already. So... enjoy your stay here, and see ya around the forums. =)
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Atrius on 25, May, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Music, huh?  I've been really tempted to start trying to learning how to write some too lately since it's something I've never done before.  I just want to give it a shot to see how it feels, and be able to say I'm not completely incompetent at it, y'know?

Anyway, welcome to the forums, here's hoping you'll enjoy your time here.  Also, do I detect a hitchhiker's guide reference?
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Charon on 25, May, 2011, 10:26:42 PM
Welcome to the forums! Don't forget to read the rules in my signature... or else!

/just kidding
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 25, May, 2011, 10:59:07 PM
Hola, señora/señorita. How are you doing?
I wouldn't say we are necessarily a large community, but we do get activity every now and then. (I am becoming slightly more active as I sloooowly lose interest in Yoshi's Lighthouse, they are an even more less active community.)

As for the hacking business, most people tend to play around with editors, however, if you can do any form of hex editing, that'd be interesting. (Perhaps maybe you too could become an editor creator one day.)
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: dwkjohn on 26, May, 2011, 12:55:33 AM
Nice catch there atrius. :happy: I didn't even see that. Hmm... mabye i should read it again.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Tetsuya the Azure Blade on 26, May, 2011, 07:17:45 AM
QuoteI play a lot of first person shooters.
Nice. Ever shot anyone in the balls on a game? When I play an FPS, I shoot people in the nuts just for lulz. Screw Headshots, Nutshots are awesome.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Kain on 26, May, 2011, 09:57:29 AM
Hello and welcome to the GSHC.  I am Kain, the Overlord of comedy.  A pleasure to make your laughter.

QuoteI'm a gamer, a roleplayer and a musician of sorts.
I play a lot of first person shooters, and ocassionally an RPG. (I'm an online focused gamer, so I tend to only play RPGs once through.) I typically roleplay over MSN or in chat rooms, and I like to think I'm very good at what I do.

Why, I do believe we are going to get along rather well.

QuoteLeft 4 Dead

Rather well indeed.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Rolina on 26, May, 2011, 12:12:54 PM
/me right clicks → Saves avatar

Welcome to the forums!  Megaman fan, eh?  We'll get along well then.  What do you prefer, the robotics or network timeline?  Or do you like them both?
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 26, May, 2011, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: Atrius on 25, May, 2011, 10:14:47 PMMusic, huh?  I've been really tempted to start trying to learning how to write some too lately since it's something I've never done before.  I just want to give it a shot to see how it feels, and be able to say I'm not completely incompetent at it, y'know?

I know what you mean. I myself am not very good at writing music. I'm basically more attuned to being a one woman band.

Quote from: Atrius on 25, May, 2011, 10:14:47 PMAnyway, welcome to the forums, here's hoping you'll enjoy your time here.  Also, do I detect a hitchhiker's guide reference?

If you did, I sure didn't do it on purpose! I have a slight tendency to emulate the people I'm close to or look up to, so I might've picked something up and not realized it. |D

Quote from: Overlord Kain on 26, May, 2011, 09:57:29 AM
Why, I do believe we are going to get along rather well.

Left 4 Dead 1/2 is on the list of games I'm still ready and willing to play. c:

Quote from: Role on 26, May, 2011, 12:12:54 PMMegaman fan, eh?  We'll get along well then.  What do you prefer, the robotics or network timeline?  Or do you like them both?

Oh I prefer the Megaman universe. (Pun unintentional that time. Totally took advantage though.) Sadly I found that the Network games really didn't stimulate my attention span. That and I found the characters from the Megaman universe a lot... deeper. ^_^;
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Kain on 26, May, 2011, 04:49:11 PM
360 or PC?  What kind of music do you like?  What kind of RP's do you usually follow and last but not least, do you watch/like anime or read any manga?
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 26, May, 2011, 05:15:06 PM
Quote from: Overlord Kain on 26, May, 2011, 04:49:11 PM
360 or PC?  What kind of music do you like?  What kind of RP's do you usually follow and last but not least, do you watch/like anime or read any manga?

PC mostly~ I play the Wii for a game or two like Brawl and Animal Crossing. I don't own a 360 though.

I like instrumental music, mostly stuff that gets my adrenaline pumping~

I usually RP in chatrooms and or over IM. I abhor game mechanics in my RPs, but otherwise do all sorts of different stuff theme-wise, between roleplaying my favorite game series and creating more scratch stuff.

I don't really watch TV much, and I don't read manga. Ive watched some cartoons off Cartoon Network, but that's about it in regards to anime.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Rolina on 27, May, 2011, 02:25:54 AM
If you have a PS3, PC, and one of the Nintendo Products, you're set as a gamer IMO.

So, for the roleplaying you do, what genres/series do you prefer?  What characters do you tend to use?
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 27, May, 2011, 11:30:47 AM
Well... Let's see. There are a couple of different types of TO I'd be into. I'm into both sci and fantasy RPs, but not when they're mixed together so much. I abhor game mechanics being used as they shred my immersion. My preferred post length is probably somewhere around 1-2 paragraphs (Not lines!). I'm not much of a length obsession despite that. I generally will not go higher than 1 paragraph minimum, and generally will not complain about any short posts unless the situation flat out demanded more description. I'm not focused on fighting when I roleplay. I'm focused on story. That being said I usually like my plots to involve plenty of fighting despite that.

Hmm... What else can I tell you? If you click on the "My Roleplay Characters" link in my signature you'll be taken to a page I created specifically to show off the characters I have created. Currently I have plans for a Golden Sun OF, but have been too lazy to fill out her profile.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Rolina on 27, May, 2011, 03:22:14 PM
I see.

What do you think of "Stat references"?  I'm actually for them, since they are used as a good basis of comparison (showing that one character is clearly innately faster than another, so as to prevent godmoding), though your comment about mechanics makes me wonder if you'd consider such references as game mechanics...
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Salanewt on 27, May, 2011, 04:26:04 PM
Oh cool, welcome to GSHC Marin! Audio is always fun to work with, how often do you remix songs?

Well, have fun!
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 27, May, 2011, 08:09:48 PM
Quote from: Role on 27, May, 2011, 03:22:14 PM
What do you think of "Stat references"?  I'm actually for them, since they are used as a good basis of comparison (showing that one character is clearly innately faster than another, so as to prevent godmoding), though your comment about mechanics makes me wonder if you'd consider such references as game mechanics...

Well, yes, I do consider stats, references or not, to be game mechanics. To be honest, I find that they really, /really/ ruin the immersion for me. Even worse than pre-determined fights. (Significantly worse even) I learned to roleplay in a place that had no moderators of any sort, and so I learned to appreciate the freedom not having game mechanics gave, as well as I learned to just ignore / block godmoders. That's... how I honestly feel.

@Salanewt: I work on music on a daily basis and often spend quite a bit of time trying to make my music sound the best it can. c:
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Rolina on 27, May, 2011, 09:08:14 PM
Ah, on the contrary, I've had godmoders ruin so many games that I don't trust many people to play a Mighty Glacier properly, since I've seen many times when they're outrunning the Fragile Speedster.

To me, all the stat do as act as guidelines, saying that "this person is about 20% faster than the average person" or "This person's magic is only 70% average".  It's not strictly enforced, but works well as guidelines, and if someone calls bullshit, I as the GM has a frame of reference by which to judge.  Outside of character creation, they're only really used to settle disputes and calls of godmoding.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 27, May, 2011, 09:38:53 PM
Yeah but they ruin my ability to enjoy any sort of competition. It's like a cheat sheet to metagaming the outcome of any competition. <___> So really it just... bothers me on a personal level.  :sad:

I would also hate to be told that I'm godmoding because of this and that stat. That would make me rage hardcore, because I am /not/ a jerk to others in RP. @_@
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Kain on 27, May, 2011, 09:56:03 PM
I have to agree Marin.  When I first began RPing, it was in chat rooms and even the first few forums I got into I was never asked to make a sheet or something.  If my character is going to be fast, I have a move that makes it so, or a teleport spell.

RPing with stats or pre-determined fights ruins an RP IMO.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Atrius on 27, May, 2011, 10:58:18 PM
A mysterious traveler slowly approaches the conversation from a dark corner silently drawing his blade, *Atrius rolls his 20 sided die* and trips over an uneven floorboard fatally stabbing himself in the chest with a ... *Pulls out his character sheet, and does some calculations* +672 piercing damage critical strike.

*cough*

Er... Yeah, I could totally understanding wanting to do RPs just for the fun of it without worrying about any actual game mechanics.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Rolina on 28, May, 2011, 05:31:42 AM
Your character is known for speed.  It's their shtick.  The new guy isn't really known for anything - they're a self-described jack of all trades.  A situation calling for combat comes up.  He's continually claiming that he can move as fast/faster than your character in his posts.  He's also easily lifting things that the Strong Guy strains himself over.  Technically, he can claim he did nothing wrong.  You, not wanting to godmode, said that though you're fast, you're not the fastest in the world.  Same with the strong guy.  You're good RPers.  Then this guy comes along and says there's no rule against being "generally good at everything", so he claims it gives him the right to be in between everyone and whoever the 'best in category in the world' happens to be.

Needless to say, it's obvious to everyone but him.  I've had so many RPs ruined by these guys I've just started making preventative measures.  If you've not... then where do you RP, because I wanna check that place out!

@Atrius:  That's not how stat references work.  You've gone beyond references and added that G in there.


On another question, what type of threads do you prefer?  Self-contained thread, or RPs where each thread is a different location?
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 28, May, 2011, 01:19:32 PM
My solution to the above problem where I come from: Use the block or ignore feature. Retcon your character ever noticing their existence and refuse to acknowledge it again. Problem Solved. I don't think there should be rules against being better than everyone else. They are.... a bit arbitrary and limit creativity and all this junk when I just think people's judgement tends to work fine. I mean. if you limit godmoders from doing everything perfectly, they're just going to be the best they can be within the limitations, so it's kind of redundant anyway. >_<;

There's a character who's awesome at "everything". His stats are all... high. Like, as high as they can go.

Godmoder, yes? Nnno.

Turns out this character has a a crippling and irrational phobia of being touched. He hesitates to hit people in fights as a result, and thus his reaction times in general are incredibly slow for a fighter. He is easily thrown into a panic by fast and erratic attacks. His stats may be better, but he won't beat you in a strength contest and he probably won't beat you in a speed contest that isn't a race. I can keep piling on these weaknesses until I successfully nullify any stat you throw on me. >_<

One of my characters has a similar crippling weakness. Her name is Erika and she was an experiment of mine trying to create a fantasy character. She has super strength compared to an average human adult, and on top of that her legs possess absurd amounts of additional strength. (She is part frog.)

She is also a powerful mage who majors in water and darkness based magic, and minors in wind based magic. Using a sort of "hack" workaround, she can cast things like fire, thunder, and ice magic (Involves becoming immobilized while casting upon a magically altered space of ground she has to create beforehand.) She's also poisonous. (Yes. Poisonous. To eat. There's a dragon out there eying frog legs. I KNOW IT.)

She was born gifted with strength, and spent most of her life studying magic to get where she was now. However, due to her crippling weakness which I haven't mentioned yet, she is not as significant of a killing machine as she could be. Erika is extremely vulnerable to dehydration. A normal  human can survive maybe three days without water. Erika would be lucky to survive one. Using any sort of fire or thunder magic is practically a death sentence for her, and being hit with them also would quickly kill her. Even minor Light/holy based magic also pretty much annihilates her in one hit due to the secondary race she has giving her most of her strength and the ability to use darkness based magic. In addition to all of the above, Erika has to manually keep control of her body temperature (It's a frog thing). Being frozen or otherwise covered in ice will rapidly exhaust and kill her if suffocation doesn't kick in first. If she somehow got free, hypothermia still kicks in extremely fast for her. To a lesser degree, she is weak against ice. In addition to all the above. Her eyes have a slight difficulty seeing things that aren't moving.

Is she a godmoder? Hardly. She's got more elemental weaknesses than she does strengths.
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Rolina on 28, May, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
The problem with that is that when that kind of character shows up, it tends to drive away the other players - it takes a much more dedicated group to stay together, and sadly I've yet to find a place with those.  If you've got recommendations, I'd love to hear it.

Anywho, your answer to the RP style?  Self-contained or location based threads?  Which do you prefer?
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 28, May, 2011, 04:56:24 PM
Good judgement by a moderator is all it really takes in that case, imo. I could show you some places...

I suppose I have no particular preference between the two types, as I'm not heavy on forum based anyway. (Forum based tends to imply a post length far above what I'm comfortable with as well as elitists looking down on my length. >_<;)
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Rolina on 28, May, 2011, 04:59:41 PM
Eh, not really.  Brick walls of text tend to be turn offs even to forum based RPs.  Instead, it's asked that not just say one line and leave it at that.  If you don't have at least a few sentences to say, then you're better off waiting until you have something to reply to.  There's other things you can do, too.  Just saying "Amy rolls over in her sleep" will get you in trouble, you could instead describe their dream instead.  It's the oneliners that piss people off.  As the saying goes, "If you don't have anything to say, then don't say anything".
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Marin on 28, May, 2011, 05:07:01 PM
Well... on my monitor that's like, 1/10th of a line. I guess I just want my RPs to be casual enough that I don't have to *work* to post instead of merely having fun doing so. Hence, I really tend to avoid forum RPs, both because of all of that and the fact that I can become a bit shy when RPing in public.  :sad:
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas on 01, June, 2011, 12:13:19 AM
QuoteBrick walls of text tend to be turn offs even to forum based RPs.
This could have been one of the reasons my Role Playing #1 topic went inactive after awhile.

I do agree that just a few lines (5 - 20) would be good per post.

----
What's even worse is if you take turns going in a circle RPing. We actually did that once in these topics. (This would include waiting a certain ammount of time for the person who's turn it is goes, if they take too long, ofcourse they can be skipped.)
Title: Re: Improbability Alert!
Post by: Rolina on 01, June, 2011, 08:57:37 AM
Actually, that's because we have very few RPers here.