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« on: November 19, 2017, 08:35:58 AM »

Umm.... i'm new here (duh...)
i'm.... a returning golden sun fan,
i've played it since i'm still a kid,
in fact golden sun is my first RPG game  Happy


i almost stopped becuse of dark dawn  Sad
it's not as good as the other two, i think
and also leave us with a cliffhanger


but, my friend tell that there are golden sun hacks around,
i googled and found this forum.


i'm not a hacker yet, but i'm interested to try, any suggestion where i should start?
maybe a explanation thread or something


Thanks, and... have a nice day  Happy
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2017, 06:27:23 PM »

Welcome newbie! To the most powerful Golden Sun in the world. I would ask not to stare at the sun for too long, since it can do evil things to you,... but here at Golden Sun Hacking Community, we encourage everyone to stare at it all they want!  So please do!  Let it brainwash you into the most beautiful dreams you'll ever have!  It is this awesome power we have discovered here! (And it will also keep you from forgetting about this place, should that ever be a problem. *wink*)

Dark Dawn. Ew... I think someone stared at the wrong side of the sun too long.

You should start with............. ARM ASSEMBLY!!! Naw, I kid, that could be one of the last things you'd need to learn, sine the GBA games are mostly Thumb. But it is still useful to know.

Where to start? It depends on what you want to do, since not everyone would want to start with the same thing. (I assume.)
I want to recommend Caledor's hacks, though I still have not tried them yet.

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I could say what got me started....

What got me started with hex hacking, I mean... It was VBA's memory viewer reveals in the debug menus topic around July 7th, 2009.
I remember in the days I didn't know how to do these things (Prior to that date/before I knew about hex editors.), that I really wanted some sort of guide... to explain how the editor was even capable of editing a ROM... But I already know now... (For so long.) ... And so, I eventually came to a point to fulfill a duty (Well, optional), to make these documentations in my signature. (GS2 = Main document.) Where I try to document what's in a ROM.
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Golden Sun Docs: Broken Seal - The Lost Age - Dark Dawn | Mario Sports Docs: Mario Golf & Mario Tennis | Misc. Docs
Refer to Yoshi's Lighthouse for any M&L hacking needs...

Sometimes I like to compare apples to oranges. (Figuratively) ... They are both fruits, but which one would you eat more? (If taken literally, I'd probably choose apples.)
Maybe it is over-analyzing, but it doesn't mean the information is useless.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2017, 07:57:46 PM »

Sure. I'll stare at the sun, until i absorb it power one day.

Where i want to start?
Umm.... That's difficult....
Hmm.... How about you tell me what tools you use to hack this game other than the editor? It would be a big help Happy

Because that way, i can decide which one is the easiest for myself.

Thanks in advance
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 09:19:22 PM »

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Sure. I'll stare at the sun, until i absorb it power one day.
The sun has the power to make you go blind should you disrespect it, so be careful! Although, it does like to be looked at in all its glory. (Kind of like bowing to a King or Queen.)

A rough list is something like this.
-VBA's Tools (Memory Viewer/etc.)
-Could get a hex editor like hxd, though it is optional if you choose to save the ROM section in VBA's memory viewer and do it that way.)
-GBATEK (For documentation of the handheld.)
-A debugger such as SDL-H or no$gba debugger (The no$ one may require BIOS files to properly work at times.)
-My Docs (So we don't have to learn what's already known.)
-Some assembly knowledge strongly recommended if wanting to maximize your hacking potential. (GBATEK has info on the assembly instructions, but it's really best if you use it next to a debugger, since it'll likely be more confusing for a novice otherwise. My opinion.)
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Golden Sun Docs: Broken Seal - The Lost Age - Dark Dawn | Mario Sports Docs: Mario Golf & Mario Tennis | Misc. Docs
Refer to Yoshi's Lighthouse for any M&L hacking needs...

Sometimes I like to compare apples to oranges. (Figuratively) ... They are both fruits, but which one would you eat more? (If taken literally, I'd probably choose apples.)
Maybe it is over-analyzing, but it doesn't mean the information is useless.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 09:27:00 PM »

I know. I won't make the mistake similar to our villain alex did.

Thanks for the list.
I'll start to search,
and try to learn it right away Happy
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February 17, 2020, 04:54:34 AM
Fox: I guess one thing this game has going for it is the Day and Night cycle.
February 17, 2020, 04:51:46 AM
Fox: Also, I noticed since the very beginning of the game, that usually the dresser drawers (whatever you call them) have items in them.
February 17, 2020, 04:48:20 AM
Fox: (And I only recently got Karn, the fourth PC.)
February 17, 2020, 04:36:01 AM
Fox: Was playing Breath of Fire I.... and I must say.... that game's pretty bland.... listening to the same songs basically everywhere... and multiple NPCs saying the exact same thing.  Most of it plays about the same... a maze with common useless items in chests, maybe you'll get one or two fine equipment, but yeah.  ... I want to check #II again later, the game I remember playing like... over a decade ago.
February 04, 2020, 08:06:18 AM
Salanewt: We're more active on the Discord though.
February 04, 2020, 08:06:01 AM
Salanewt: Oh hey! It does, yeah.
February 02, 2020, 06:42:38 PM
Mastermind: holy crap this place still exists?
December 24, 2019, 09:33:09 PM
Fox: Even just plain Editor work can make some difference. = At least these forums are indexed on the Search engine. I was also curious about whether to um... go through all the topics on these forums and take all the important stuff out/placed into a folder for a bit of organization. Would be a bonus since if something ever happened to this forum, or if we ever wanted to start afresh again, it wouldn't be that difficult to do so.
December 24, 2019, 09:23:03 PM
Fox: One thing is for sure. This place has become completely dead. (Mostly because of Discord.)  = I don't think much will happen with this forum unless I, Salanewt, or someone else does a thing.
December 24, 2019, 09:18:05 PM
Fox: Probably not?
December 24, 2019, 06:51:08 PM
Luna_blade: I suppose this is the last Christmas of this forum? 
December 24, 2019, 06:50:51 PM
Luna_blade: Yay thanks for the coins
December 19, 2019, 04:39:45 AM
Fox: Okay, another thought... "gsmagic" could be the code name/project name... and "Golden Sun Magic" could be the more formal official name... (As in using both names.)  -  I still need to look into these other games as well... so who knows if it could be better to call it Camelot Magic if those should ever be supported to a decent standard.  Would probably be a long time from now, though. As I can be pretty lazy.
December 18, 2019, 10:01:39 PM
Foreclosure: gsmagic is fine
December 17, 2019, 05:44:32 PM
Fox: Also. I call my program "gsmagic" and not "GSMagic" =P (Not asking for correction/I being silly)... Had to call it something, so picked something short.  Maybe I should rename it to Golden Sun Magic later. *shrug*
December 17, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
Fox: (And "Golden Sun" instead of "GS" to reduce confusion that would likely not be there anyway... when "Golden Sun" doesn't take up much space to start with. (Imagine being new and thinking GS meant GameShark, or some other oddity. Ew.)) - All just thoughts...I'm still going with most of this not mattering that much, though.
December 17, 2019, 05:12:55 PM
Fox: "Misc. GS Hacking" = That name looks odd, so I'd probably just go with "Golden Sun Hacking"
December 17, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
Fox: I tempted to also suggest the Editors can go in the first category. Since the Editor is the reason this place exists in the first place. (I think.)
December 17, 2019, 04:53:19 PM
Fox: (combined = Not meant to be taken literally... but rather.... to generalize things more, since it apparently looks like we don't need the extra space no one is using.)
December 17, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
Fox: Worse still... we've only used those for Golden Sun content.... and there's not much there.
December 17, 2019, 04:45:53 PM
Fox: E.g. Maybe everything in "Assets & Discussion" could be combined with "Creative Works".... I don't feel like sound and art apply to general hacking anyway... that only comes into play when you have tools to insert them.
December 17, 2019, 04:40:26 PM
Fox: categories and/or forums
December 17, 2019, 04:36:48 PM
Fox: Everything else seems to be about right, though. Perhaps some categories could be combined(?), but doesn't really matter that much.
December 17, 2019, 04:33:03 PM
Fox: (I still think The Community section fits best at the bottom. =P)
December 15, 2019, 05:10:04 PM
Salanewt: Heya! I'm planning to get the demo up today, but if you can't wait then it's already available on the Discord.
December 15, 2019, 04:12:27 AM
Fox: (Then sell the badges on the Trade Center for a very high price... and give a lot of active people coins to buy them with, so they can basically transfer the coins to me if they want something... Gosh I could be a naughty hoarder. =P)
December 15, 2019, 04:06:19 AM
Fox: I'd buy up all the stock for each item too... but man... I think I'm too lazy for that. =P
December 15, 2019, 04:01:24 AM
Fox: There we go. That should be all of them.
December 15, 2019, 03:25:32 AM
Fox: Duplicates will still show up as separate entries on the profile as well. Interestingly enough.
December 15, 2019, 03:18:25 AM
Fox: (Well, one of each badge, at least.)

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