It Would Be Cool If... (hacking)

[Salanewt]

Oh yeah... Earthbound is another game that I want to try out... Too bad that the used game store is now for rent, and is also closed down...

Anyway, I think that a home rune bat would be a good idea for a weapon. Also, can you think of any enemies that should be replaced with enemies from other games? I have some ideas about replacing enemies so I can get Goomba and Tentacool.

Have a nice day.
 

[Aile~♥]

Kraken = Tentacruel.

And as for items: Heart Container replaces Potion I guess? Or maybe it replaces Power Bread.

Super Mushroom! Makes the character's sprite go huge, for one thing. And for another, it doubles the character's Attack stat for the battle.

Starman: Set Defence of target to absolute highest possible for set number of turns. Maybe 3?

Star Rod: Increases Wind and Fire Power by 20, and bestows the Psynergy Astral Blast. Attack +168. Unleashes Star Mine.

Class idea!:
Name: -------------> Astral Squire --------------> Cosmo Knight ----------> Celestial Gallant -----------> Star Warrior
Element Lvl reqs: 2 Wind, 2 Fire, 1 Water -> 3 Wind, 3 Fire, 2 Water -> 4 Wind, 4 Fire, 3 Water -> 5 Wind, 5 Fire, 4 Water

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Lvl|Psynergy...........|
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..1|Ply................|
..1|Flare****..........|
..3|Guard*.............|
..4|Ray*...............|
..5|Fume***............|
..6|Impact*****........|
..6|Flare Wall****.....|
..8|Plasma****.........|
..9|Wish*..............|
.11|Astral Blast**.....|
.13|Planet Diver*******|
.14|Storm Ray*.........|
.15|Protect*...........|
.16|Ply Well...........|
.17|Serpent Fume***....|
.18|Flare Storm****....|
.21|High Impact*****...|
.22|Wish Well*.........|
.26|Dragon Fume***.....|
.26|Shine Plasma****...|
.34|Pure Ply...........|
.36|Destruct Ray*......|
.42|Pure Wish*.........|
.47|Meteor Blow******..|
.50|Spark Plasma****...|
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*Class must be higher than Cosmo Knight.
**Changes to Thunder Mine at Celestial Gallant class.
***Changes to Rising Dragon at Star Warrior class.
****Assuming we can have more than 16 Psynergies per class.
*****Class must be higher than Cosmo Knight. Also assumes that we can have more than 16 Psynergies per class.
******Learned at Star Warrior class.
*******Changes to Planetary at Celestial Gallant class.

Stats Bonuses:
Astral Squire:
HP: +20%
PP: +0%
Attack: +20%
Defence: +10%
Agility: +20%
Luck: +10%

Cosmo Knight:
HP: +40%
PP: +20%
Attack: +40%
Defence: +20%
Agility: +30%
Luck: +10%

Celestial Gallant:
HP: +60%
PP: +30%
Attack: +60%
Defence: +30%
Agility: +40%
Luck: +10%

Star Warrior:
HP: +80%
PP: +40%
Attack: +80%
Defence: +40%
Agility: +50%
Luck: +10%

Edit: I noticed that their actually is room for Planet Diver/Planetary, since the class doesn't learn it's last Psynergy until Star Warrior, at which point the entire Fume series is gone, replaced with Rising Dragon, leaving 2 extra slots, but Planetary can take up one of those slots.

This post has been edited by JamietheFlameUser on Jul 5 2009, 03:37 PM

[Salanewt]

Good idea Jamie. This should probably work for not only the Kirby characters, but possibly either Felix or Isaac as well (not both, so I can work on making them not be clones). However, it will probably be exclusive to the Kirby characters (probably Kirby him/herself (I have heard that he is a she, but I doubt it)).

Also, I have been thinking about replacing the inhabitants of Apoji Islands with Yoshis, and having the Yoshi's Island main theme. It does not sound like it would work, but with the waterfall, it is perfect.

Also, I like your Kraken = Tentecruel idea. However, now that I think of it, do you have any other ideas as to what Kraken should replace? I think that there is something from Shadow Runner, but that is only a giant squid... How about a giant Blooper?

Have a nice day.


This post has been edited by Salanewt on Jul 5 2009, 07:03 PM

[Aile~♥]

Were you reading the elemental levels for the class? This class is available only to Jupiter Adepts, Mars Adepts, and to a somewhat limited extent, Mercury Adepts (They can't get to the highest class, Meaning that they cannot learn Rising Dragon or Meteor Blow). Yes, that's right, Yoshi can be a Star Warrior.

Edit: Actually no, Yoshi cannot be a Star Warrior, but he can be a Celestial Gallant.

This post has been edited by JamietheFlameUser on Jul 5 2009, 09:05 PM

[Salanewt]

Oh, sorry, I did not see the element requirements. However, I like your ideas about the classes. Also, I am thinking of giving Yoshi some psynergies that he will always know (kind of like how Piers always knows Douse, now matter what class he is). I also have another idea... This idea comes from both Yoshi and Chansey, the part kangaroo pokemon... Healing egg psynergies, how about it?

Have a nice day.
 

[Aile~♥]

Chansey is not part kangaroo, it doesn't store it's young in the pouch. Kangaskan is part kangaroo, as you can probably tell from it's name, but yeah, healing egg Psynergies work.

[Salanewt]

Sorry, but I could not think of any other animal with a pouch on its front (mammal). Anyway, I am trying to figure out what its details should be... I already have an idea, it will only reach 1 person (except at the final level, which will reach up to 4 people (everyone who is currently in battle)), and it will heal about as much as Ply (or maybe about 90% of ply). I still do not know which element I should base it on (probably either water or earth (most likely water)).

Also, I know how I can make Egg Throw into two levels, but I have to base it off of Yoshi's Story (if you have played, then you would notice that the White and Black Yoshis have a larger blast when their eggs explode, that would be level 2). Egg Throw could be3 based on Yoshi's Island, with the colour changes and the power increasing, or it could be based on Yoshi's Story, with the blast being more powerful. If Yoshi's Island, then it would be like Spire, if Yoshi's Story, then it would be like Cutting Edge, or Ragnarok. Now that I think of it, I should put them both in. Agree or disagree?

Have a nice day.
 

[Aile~♥]

Sure, but 'em both in. Yoshi doesn't have enough Psys anyway... Except that the Ground Pound already takes up his Element Physical Attack spot. Base Classes only get one. :(

Edit: I have nearly 200 posts! Yayz!

This post has been edited by JamietheFlameUser on Jul 5 2009, 09:23 PM

[Salanewt]

Ooh, nice. Oh yeah, I forgot about his Ground Pound... Oh well. Maybe I can make an exception... After all, Yoshi can not use any weapons other than his tongue.

Have a nice day.
 

[Aile~♥]

Also, he needs to get Egg Barrier. (remember his shield in Smash Bros.?) Maybe his side special move as well. What to call it, though? Egg Roll sounds like the type of Chinese food called an egg roll, so that doesn't really work. Also, the problem with that is that it would also end up being an Physical Psynergy.

[Salanewt]

True, but that physical psynergy would be able to work on everyone (since it does roll, hit one target, and then goes on to the next), so it might be a regular psynergy. However, it is a physical psynergy, but it can hit more than one target, so...

How about Rolling Egg?

Anyway, have a nice day.
 

[Aile~♥]

Then it sounds like Agatio's move Rolling Flame, XD. But yeah, that works. At this point there is only one multi-target Physical Psynergy: Shuriken. I'd like to see more of those personally, so I like your idea.

[Salanewt]

Thanks, I am glad that you like it. By the way,m just one question before I continue with another idea... Have you voted yet? If you are not sure what the songs are, then you can follow Charley's links to some songs).

Anyway, another idea... How about a special ability for Mario? Maybe something similar to his Fireball ability from the Mario games (similar to Star Magician's attack, but possibly bouncy). Also, how about if a character has boots equipped, but not a weapon, then they jump as their attack?

Have a nice day.
 

[Aile~♥]

Like... Everyone? That could be funny. But yeah, it works. It would certainly add some variety to the presently dreary attack animations. And no I have not voted yet. I'm honestly not sure what to pick. I have various ideas for victory music, but none really for Game Over music. And I think that Golden Sun has the best Game Over music around, personally.

P.S. Care to invent names for the classes in a Male version of Flame User class set? I don't think Witch or Hex work very well on a guy, though Flame User, Justice, and Fire Master don't need changing.

This post has been edited by JamietheFlameUser on Jul 5 2009, 11:06 PM

[Salanewt]

Witch = Fire Conjurer
Hex = Flame Mage

What if Justice were given to a different class series (and/or element), and the name is replaced with Pyrokineticist? Pyro + kinetic = Pyrokinetic (and then make it so it is a user of pyrokinetic energy, and becomes pyrokineticist). I mean, Justice reminds me of Thor, who is wind/Jupiter. So, do you like the name changes? Also, I am planning on changing more names. "Pyrokineticist" is probably due for change, but this works for now.

Also, Pyrokinetic is similar to Telekinetic, if you think about it.

Have a nice day.


This post has been edited by Salanewt on Jul 5 2009, 11:16 PM

[Aile~♥]

Perhaps, instead of just saying you like my class ideas, you could test them? Keep in mind that my class above learns the Fume series at a very low level. This is because it is based on the original strengths for the Fume series. Also, you should convert it for Flame User as well:

Fume @ lvl 5 as normal.

Serpent Fume @ level 17.

Dragon Fume @ level 26.

[Salanewt]

I probably will soon. However, I am going to have major changes (or at least several changes, if not major) to the class sets and system on the next version of the hack. I just have to finish up on some things in this one first (I want 1 or 2 songs from other games).

Also, do you (or anyone else) know where the data is for the psynergies that characters can not forget (Piers always knows Douse, Sheba Mind Read, etc.)? I am going to remove Douse from Piers.

Have a nice day.
 

[Aile~♥]

Wait Whaat???  You posted a hack? Where?

[Salanewt]

Oh, sorry, I have not posted a version of the hack yet. However, I am going to very soon. I just want to get at least 1 song imprted into Golden Sun. If by tomorrow (at about 3:00-4:00 pm (my time)) I can not get the song to be perfect, then I will add music in the second patch.

Have a nice day.
   

[Aile~♥]

Actually, for the second Water Adept in the hack, not Mudkip or Squirtle. Use Buizel instead cause he's just that much more awesome.