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« on: May 01, 2016, 10:45:24 PM »

Hey there. I've been in the spriting mood lately (no idea how long that will last), and decided to scour my files for a sprite sheet I made a while back. The difference between a normal sprite sheet and this one is that this is meant to be more of a comparative aid for creating custom sprites. What is this sprite sheet? Pictures often speak louder than words, so I'll lead with that. Well, sprites in this case.



In short, I'm sharing it with everyone who wants something like this! Now, if you take a good look at these sprites, you should be able to see some things that many of them have in common with one another. I grouped them together to make it easier, but they certainly aren't perfect;

a) Young men; two rows (I know the first two are supposed to be female characters, but still)
b) Middle-aged women; one row
c) Young women; one row
d) Maidens; one row
e) Aunts; subsection lined up with d)
f) Children; two rows (the bottom also has more stuff in their hair)
g) Guards; two rows
h) Middle-aged men; one row
i) Uncles; one row
j) Seniors; two rows
k) Elders; one row
l) Misc.; whatever is not a humanoid sprite that could potentially walk on two feet

These very rough categories can help define how a character's sprites should look based on a number of criteria. For example, are they frail and slender? Senior shape, or maybe Young Man. Very short? Child/Dwarf. These are obviously flexible given that some sprites can fit in multiple groups while others are hard to place, but I imagine they could help someone who is interested in spriting characters for either of the first two games.

On the right are compass pads, designed to help orient a character. Generally, PCs use the red, blue, and purple directions, while NPCs use red and green. The very light blue, while not really used for character sprites, can be combined with the rest for 16-directional rotation. If that makes sense. A character will look like it is facing a certain direction if its body is positioned to follow a line, like Jenna, Kraden, and the archery target do in the provided examples.

Oh, and the Starry Night is there just to fill some empty space. It only uses the default sprite palette. Hope you guys like it, and I hope this helps!

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July 06, 2019, 03:44:41 AM
Salanewt: Oh, yeah there isn't an animation overhaul for GS1 sadly.
July 03, 2019, 04:54:58 PM
ryancaesar12345: GS2 Animation Overhaul w/ Baseline  ips patch in golden sun 1?
July 03, 2019, 12:03:06 AM
Salanewt: There actually is a Jupiter revive... if you're using the Animation Overhaul patch. I think Caledor made a standalone patch for GS1 too, but you'd have to ask him.
July 02, 2019, 07:34:13 AM
Fox: So like... (just a thought)...  If we designed a script to compare times for speedrunning something... goalChance represents stability (I think?) ; If it is 100%, answer results in infinite, which means you can't have 100% stability. (Meaning you'd basically be skipping all item drops/etc.) 
July 02, 2019, 07:06:08 AM
Fox: (I still want to make sure the equation is correct, though... as it did include some guessing.)
July 02, 2019, 07:04:47 AM
Fox: Was thinking .... tosses = ln(1-goalChance) / ln(1-chance) = "chance" being a single-toss percentage probability (0.00 - 1.00) , goal chance being if you did more tosses...   So that's an interesting logarithm.  Just came up with it after some research/thinking... and could maybe be useful for general use.
June 25, 2019, 02:51:42 PM
ryancaesar12345: jupiter revive animation any?
June 24, 2019, 08:05:17 AM
Fox: Such a patch would mean you need to be careful with item drops, coins, exp, etc. Because those things would then no longer be an infinite supply.  Whether or not one uses it depends on what they want to do with it.
June 24, 2019, 07:55:01 AM
Fox: (High enough being based on the area you are in.)
June 24, 2019, 07:54:02 AM
Fox: I had a thought today. What if I look into making a simple patch just for lulz.  One that works the same way as using Avoid, but it lasts from start to finish, and can't be disabled.  Avoid only works if your levels are high enough, though... so thought is to keep that as is.
June 24, 2019, 01:55:17 AM
ryancaesar12345: hi guys i have new update in Golden Sun 2 Lost Age Revise Mod.ips try this. :)
June 24, 2019, 01:54:16 AM
ryancaesar12345: where's that link?
June 24, 2019, 01:53:56 AM
ryancaesar12345: i have no account in discord.*
June 23, 2019, 08:44:52 PM
Salanewt: Although in the case of Wish, you could probably just use Breeze instead.
June 23, 2019, 08:44:36 PM
Salanewt: Yeah, it's a messaging program sort of like Skype. I find that it's much easy to walk people through some of the basics of assembly, since that's what you'll need for most animation hacks.
June 23, 2019, 09:39:10 AM
ryancaesar12345: discord? im not good in asm or assembly.
June 22, 2019, 09:37:26 AM
MaxiPower: gpnna update my thread on progress of my character art if anyones interested. :P
June 21, 2019, 07:51:44 PM
Salanewt: Hey there! Animation editing can be tricky, but I can share some notes with you if you pop in on our Discord. Are you good with assembly?
June 21, 2019, 02:59:40 PM
ryancaesar12345: and how to change a death curse turn in hex editor?
June 21, 2019, 02:50:00 PM
ryancaesar12345: and how to make animation but changing palette only like wish blue i want to change violet. for AOE healing and earth element.

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