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« on: November 24, 2010, 09:35:27 AM »

This is the ultimate discussion on government, come here if you need to talk about any government stuff. :)

This topic was made because we got off-topic while playing the; Would You Rather game. So, if we felt the need to continue the discussion, it could be here.
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 02:10:15 PM »

This topic seems like a good idea, though I must correct some of the things that you stated in that topic.

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It appears that I know a little more about the Canadian government that I first let on.

I would say that you know much less about the Canadian government than you first let on, so I shall explain.

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I don't know much about the Canadian government, but I know it is a constitutional monarchy. Canada, has a Queen, this Queen appoints the Prime Minister of the House of Commons, who controls most of the House of Commons.

For the representative function, as an elected body, the members of the House are supposed to represent the interests of the citizens of Canada to the government. But this FAILS because the Prime Minister is appointed by the Queen, and the Queen will probably appoint someone who's opinion is in line with her own. And the Queens opinion is definitely NOT the peoples opinion.

Actually, a political party is elected by the citizens of Canada, not chosen by the Queen. The Prime Minister is the leader of the elected party, which means that the country votes for their PM as well as the party that will govern Canada. If they have fewer than half of the total votes, they are a minority government (and need approval from the other parties when trying to pass a law). If they have over half of the votes, they are a majority (and can try to pass any law that they want, though there are other requirements before they do so). Aside from the Governer General, the Queen has virtually no representation in Canada (and can even be barred from entering Parliament). This means that, while we have a monarchy, we are actually a democratic country.

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PLUS it is a monarchy, which means, if the Queen isn't forced off of the throne, that her offspring will take her place, and usually someones offspring reflects the opinions of them, just look at Obama, he has done everything in his power to be the exact man his father is. Wait, that would also mean he is a Muslim, which would also mean he is a liar... 

Canada is a Constitutional Monarchy. The part where you are wrong is that the Queen has the Governer General as her only representative. They are required to be a Canadian Citizen, and do not have as much power in present as they have in the past (so the government is more powerful, and the Governer General is only responsible for passing the laws).

Also, not all Muslims are liars. There are thousands, even millions of Muslims who are very good people. Some of my best friends are Muslim... low blow there, Menaus...

Just to point it out though, but the US government only ranks as the 22nd least corrupt nation of 2010, whereas Canada is placed 6th, and New Zealand (another wonderful country, in my opinion) is tied with Denmark and Singapore at 1st place. Finland and Sweden are tied at fourth place.

As for Japan, it is currently 17th, which means that it is less corrupt than the US. Please do not misunderstand me; the US is a good country too. I would just prefer to live in different countries (especially with some of the things that US citizens are being denied right now, like the ability to marry whoever they want and the ability to be free from discrimination).

Have a nice day.

Edit: And to be frank, I think that Obama has done a good job so far, but he was voted after Bush screwed the US over so much. It is pretty hard to clean nuclear waste off of a car with a toothbrush, especially when the population does not want to put toothpaste onto the brush. I mean, one who can successfully get a form of healthcare for their country has to be pretty good, right? Of course, our healthcare program KOs it, but the healthcare system in the US has a good chance of coming to fruition if its government does not try to undo it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 03:22:47 AM »

Sorry, I don't really know much about other governments. Thank you for clearing that up with me. But now I'm a little confused, because I got some of that information straight from the Canadian government's website

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This means that, while we have a monarchy, we are actually a democratic country.

That would make Canada more of a Republic. Because a Republic would have people vote on representatives who then vote. While a in democracy, people vote for everything, and there are no representatives, everyone represents themselves, the world has REALLY confused these two.

If your country isn't really a constitutional monarchy... Then why the heck is it called a constitutional Monarchy? If the queen doesn't do any real representing besides the Governor General, why not change her to a president? Why not change your country's constitution to a Constitutional Republic?

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Also, not all Muslims are liars. There are thousands, even millions of Muslims who are very good people. Some of my best friends are Muslim... low blow there, Menaus...

Well, I never said all Muslims are liars, many of them can be good people. look here: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/15101761/detail.html Obama himself says he is Christian, not Muslim, so... he is a liar if he REALLY and truly is trying to be the same person his father was, who was a Muslim. But if he isn't trying to be the exact person his father was he is STILL a liar because he said that he did everything in his power to be the same man his father was. Obama doesn't even qualify to be president, look here;http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp (please read before continuing) add to that, he went to Indonesia and renounced his citizenship so he could go to the schools there.

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And to be frank, I think that Obama has done a good job so far...

Sorry, but to be completely honest, I did this when you said that:

Bush was just as bad as Obama, maybe even better; Bush has increased the US debt by $4.97 trillion. It was $10.7 trillion by the time Bush left the office. Now this is the current US debt, that means that so far Obama has put almost $3.8 trillion more to the US debt. And he has been in office only a little more than 1 YEAR! If the rates at which the debt stays the same(Which they won't, they will probably go higher), the US will be $16.3 trillion by the time Obama leaves the office, which means Obama will add $7.1 trillion to the US debt. Does he still seem like a good president?
  
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 04:41:24 AM »

Allow me to state that "Constitutional Monarchy" is not the same thing as an actual monarchy. We may be a monarchy according to our constitution, but nobody follows that anymore anyway. I really wish they would, however. Really, I think our Governor General ought to dissolve parliament before Steven Harper does any more damage, but I don't think it's a happening thing. In practice, you couldn't call us a Republic OR a Democracy. The government has done things nobody agrees with, and has stayed in power even when they shouldn't have, thanks to some dumb division boundaries, and nothing we do can put a stop to it. Meanwhile, the Liberals aren't any better. This whole piece of s*** should've been stopped by a vote of No Confidence a few years back, but the Liberals said they weren't ready for an election, and look where that's gotten us? A vote of No Confidence then would have given the people faith in the Liberals, and they would be in power now, and it's possible we would be better off than we are right now. While the liberals are bad, Steven Harper is worse. It's gotten to the point in our country where we're having to choose between the lesser of two evils. That can't be called Republic or Democratic, but it's not a Monarchy either. At this point, we almost have what is called a Dictatorship. If the government doesn't like someone, they have them convicted as a terrorist. If the person is so perfectly innocent that the government can't even get away with that, they have the US deport them to somewhere else where they can be thrown in prison without a fair trial and tortured. But the US has it even worse.

I think that if Obama would carry out his promises, he'd be a good president. If Bush HADN'T carried out his promises, he would've been a good president.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 05:02:26 AM »

I agree with everything that Jamie says, although I should add that our government practically treats "refugees" with more prestige than those who have lived here longer. It is already at the point where we let criminals in, who want our benefits. Personally, I dislike almost all of the top parties. Harper is Bush' bosom buddy, Ignatieff has been away from the country for too long, Layton seems to have no idea as to what he is doing (must have something to do with grass being a wonderful herb), and nobody wants Quebec to separate, not even the Bloc (although they do want Quebec to have benefits). So far, the only party that I would want to run Canada would be the Green Party, even though it could mean that we have higher taxes on actions that harm the environment. Or, better yet, we marry Ignatieff and Harper together (something that they would both loathe), and ship them elsewhere. Layton can be their adopted cousin, and then the Liberals and Conservatives can have new leaders (do we really need an "NDP" party?).

I wouldn't say that we are a dictatorship yet. I also have a feeling that there may be a No Confidence vote by late 2011, one year before the next election. Of course, I am also hoping that Harper's new drug bill does not pass. I do not want people to be arrested for merely having "it" too close to the US border. Also, one of his things is that "this is not the Wild West, people should not be able to flee the US to avoid the law." Bull crap, what about our immigration policy? We can allow criminals into the country if they claim refugee status, but our own citizens have to pay if they break foreign laws? Immigration is a good thing, but not in such uncontrolled doses. People basically have to pay fines now if they break certain US laws. Not just International, but US laws. And, what the deuce are the fighter jets for? I am certain that Russia is not planning on bombing us right now, is there really any need to spend so much money on something that has a poor resale value?

Obama has managed to carry out some things though, and the Health Care thing is something to brag about (despite being KO'ed by several other countries). He should have handled the BP oil spill better, as well as fulfilling some of his other promises. Bush was a bit responsible for that too though, with crappy policies in regards to offshore oil rigs. I still of despise him for his "weapons of mass destruction." So many people have died, and it was proven that those claims were false.

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Edit: I know that Elizabeth May was born as an American citizen, but I think she would be able to do more to help Canada than Harper has so far. Either that, or we need to bring Trudeau back from the dead.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 05:36:40 AM »

Sounds like Canada is going down, I thought it was better than that. At least in the US people control the government, as long as we get the right people in office - Which is a feat in and of itself - it usually works out.

The new health care is horrible, especially considering the US is in $13.8 trillion in debt. You know there was someone who had to come to the US because their country's health care wouldn't let them get treated. Now that the US has changed to a similar health care system.

You know that NO ONE except Obama read the health care bill? I believe Hillary Clinton said "Pass the bill so you know whats in it."

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2010, 06:08:23 AM »

as long as we get the right people in office - Which is a feat in and of itself - it usually works out.

That would work in Canada too, except for the part where, due to bad riding borders, the NDP or Liberals or Greens or whatever could in fact get more votes individually than the Conservatives, and the Conservatives would STILL have more ridings meaning they'd still be in power. At least in the US people vote directly for the President. On the other hand, the US has even more new stupid security measures than Canada.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2010, 08:31:41 PM »

Well, in Canada, the Parti who gain the most deputee has the power for 2 to 4 years, and the population can't directly affect them.

We have Harper, and this guy act as a dicdator with the senate, but can't get rid of him..

In fact, we always vote agaisn't people and never... Since 2003, Because of Jean chrétien, we put the liberals on the punition bench and the conservator , (stupid harper maneable pawn ), took power.

Well, I can't say much about gouvernement, Can,t you agreee, that we have gourvenement because we are responsibile ? As people. As citizen.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 09:32:42 AM »

At least in the US people vote directly for the President.

Actually, there are electors for each state. Depending on the sate, the electors have to vote on what the people of that particular state. It SHOULD be this for every state in my opinion, but that isn't the case.

You know, the FCC is currently FORCING internet neutrality. which means, if your looking at a conservative article, there will be a pop up, or something that directs you to a liberal article. The FCC first went to Congress to get this to happen, but they declared it unconstitutional and throw it out.


This is the same crap that happened in Rome before it turned into an empire. Rome was a Republic, but slowly they did the same things we were doing now: Made food free(food stamps), started pushing socialism(New health care system & state capitalism is national socialism, didn't know that did you?). For example, in Rome if you owned land that was too big, part of that land goes to a poor person.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 02:18:09 PM »

You mean in Italy? I knew some of that, though they have a pretty corrupt government right now. For example, if someone hits your car with theirs, there is a chance that they can win a lawsuit against you. To be honest though, so many countries offer food stamps at times. For example, Canada has offered food stamps in times of war, though mainly for the World Wars (at least WW1). Socialism isn't completely bad, it has some good things (and some excellent things, like health care). I find that no form of government is completely bad, and no form of government is perfect either. In my opinion, if we were to blend all of the good characteristics of each government type (like democracy, communism, socialism, etc.), we would be able to have a nearly perfect government. Not sure if dictatorship would fit in here though, unless we give leaders a little more control in times of disaster (like war, plague, natural disaster, and so on).

First, we make a basic requirement for every nation to follow. As long as they have most, if not all of these, then they can have laws that do not contradict these. For example, finding a way to give more working people a livable income. Not to make it balanced (so doctors and waiters earn the same amount), but to make it easier for those with lower paying jobs to live a suitable lifestyle. Instead of giving a university professor about 100k or more a year, we can reduce that to about 80k. We also want to avoid giving those who do not work money, since they should have to work for an income. If they are searching for a job, there could easily be more jobs created if the government really wants to create them. We also need to ensure that education is free, including college and university. Then, throwing in health care, cheaper medications, and having stricter laws on hate speech (some countries are fine for this already, one of which I live in). Freedom of speech is not bad, but if it allows for hate speech... you get what I am saying. Next, everyone should have access to a fair trial. The leader/party should be voted by the population. Everyone has equal rights. And perhaps a bit more care to the environment. If we take care of the environment better, it makes it less likely to change the landscape over time. It also gives us less of a sailing distance between continents.  Happy

Now, if every country were to just adopt each of those things that I listed, they could all become just a little bit better (or in some cases, much better). Granted, several countries do not really need this stuff, but it helps. Governments say that they want as many scientists as they can get, right? Scientists, engineers, doctors, all of them. How are we supposed to get as many of these as possible if there are working people who can not afford to live a reasonable life, let alone pay for education? We also need to take care of the health of the citizens, because the government is supposed to fear its citizens, while taking care that they live as well. If they all die, that makes the government comparable to what the Wise One would have been like in the Golsen Sun series. A.K.A, a failure.

So, any comments?

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2010, 05:38:50 PM »

Giving the government more control in times of crisis is actually something we probably want to avoid at all costs. Look at what Bush could get away with just because he convinced people that the US was in trouble. Look where he got us now. If it weren't for him, we wouldn't have all this stupid security c***. The security techniques already in place should have been enough to stop 9-11. Investigations have revealed that US security already had enough hints that they should have known something was up, but they were apparently oblivious to it all. And so now everyone's complaining that we need tighter security, and the government can suddenly get away with highly unconstitutional "security measures" that effectively serve to let them throw anyone they don't like in jail.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2010, 07:39:00 PM »

Oh wait a second, I meant "less control," not more. I hope we have a new election soon, we really need it. These security measures are useless, because those who want to smuggle weapons or bombs can always find a way to do so. Just look at the bomb that they found a while ago.

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You mean in Italy? I knew some of that, though they have a pretty corrupt government right now. For example, if someone hits your car with theirs, there is a chance that they can win a lawsuit against you. To be honest though, so many countries offer food stamps at times. For example, Canada has offered food stamps in times of war, though mainly for the World Wars (at least WW1). Socialism isn't completely bad, it has some good things (and some excellent things, like health care). I find that no form of government is completely bad, and no form of government is perfect either. In my opinion, if we were to blend all of the good characteristics of each government type (like democracy, communism, socialism, etc.), we would be able to have a nearly perfect government. Not sure if dictatorship would fit in here though, unless we give leaders a little more control in times of disaster (like war, plague, natural disaster, and so on).

First, we make a basic requirement for every nation to follow. As long as they have most, if not all of these, then they can have laws that do not contradict these. For example, finding a way to give more working people a livable income. Not to make it balanced (so doctors and waiters earn the same amount), but to make it easier for those with lower paying jobs to live a suitable lifestyle. Instead of giving a university professor about 100k or more a year, we can reduce that to about 80k. We also want to avoid giving those who do not work money, since they should have to work for an income. If they are searching for a job, there could easily be more jobs created if the government really wants to create them. We also need to ensure that education is free, including college and university. Then, throwing in health care, cheaper medications, and having stricter laws on hate speech (some countries are fine for this already, one of which I live in). Freedom of speech is not bad, but if it allows for hate speech... you get what I am saying. Next, everyone should have access to a fair trial. The leader/party should be voted by the population. Everyone has equal rights. And perhaps a bit more care to the environment. If we take care of the environment better, it makes it less likely to change the landscape over time. It also gives us less of a sailing distance between continents.  Happy

Now, if every country were to just adopt each of those things that I listed, they could all become just a little bit better (or in some cases, much better). Granted, several countries do not really need this stuff, but it helps. Governments say that they want as many scientists as they can get, right? Scientists, engineers, doctors, all of them. How are we supposed to get as many of these as possible if there are working people who can not afford to live a reasonable life, let alone pay for education? We also need to take care of the health of the citizens, because the government is supposed to fear its citizens, while taking care that they live as well. If they all die, that makes the government comparable to what the Wise One would have been like in the Golsen Sun series. A.K.A, a failure.

So, any comments?

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I said ancient Rome, the Roman Empire did you not learn history? Rome was a Republic, and a pretty good one too, than someone exactly like Obama showed up and led them to FEEDING PEOPLE TO LIONS.

And to your entire post:

LMAO what a load of fail, socialism isn't completely bad? Give me a reason as to why socialism isn't completely bad. And don't give me that crap about Robin Hood. Robin Hood was stealing back what the rich stole from the poor, not socialism.

There is no good to socialism NONE.

The government has NO business in what we earn, or what we do, unless it is something illegal, even then they need to have probable cause to search us or monitor what we do. A waiter and a doctor get only what the company decides to pay them, there already is fairness, everybody had a chance to get a good education, those who chose not to, pay the consequences.

Life isn't fair, get used to the idea. And no hate speeches? Well, I'm doing one right now, everyone should be able to talk and say what they want, the government has no business in what we do or say.

Its not the governments responsibility to take care of us, it is OUR OWN, the government shouldn't pay for out health care, that is our problem, not the governments 

The only was a dictatorship will work is if there was a perfect man who was the dictator, a benevolent person, the only one who could do that is Jesus Christ, since we have no such person on planet earth at the moment, that wont work.

Take care of the environment? Whats wrong with it? Global warming? LOL Its a hoax, fact. Scientists don't have any CONCRETE evidence that it is really happening. You know a few years ago in the USA it was cold and raining year round in Oregon, that doesn't seem like global warming to me.

Education is free? No, education is never free, SOMEONE has to pay, and the people who pay is everyone, that right, higher taxes. Because the government need more money so they can pay for your education. Its YOUR education, not somebody else's. Tell me, would you force your friend to pay for your college degree?

The government is not supposed to take care of you, what the F made you think that? A government is made to put laws into effect, and enforce them. Its your job to live your life the way you want to, or make a law or two if you want to, or vote if you want to.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2010, 03:03:07 AM »

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unless it is something illegal,
But does the government not decide what is legal or not, depending on the laws that they pass?

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There is no good to socialism NONE.
Not quite true, it does have some good things. Personally though, I prefer democratic socialism over straight socialism. That way, we get a nice, healthy blend. Make it easier to give to poorer people without taking from wealthier people.

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those who chose not to, pay the consequences.

And then again, not everyone has a choice. For example, there are people who are kept out of school to work. They need to earn money to help the family, but they can not get an education.

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The government has NO business in what we earn
So they pass minimum wage laws?

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the only one who could do that is Jesus Christ,
I doubt it, to be fairly honest. I would suggest the almighty Yoshi, but this is not a religious debate. I usually choose not to participate in those anyway.

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Tell me, would you force your friend to pay for your college degree?
Well, people in some countries do not even pay taxes for kids to go to elementary school (so there are kids who can not even go to school, millions of them all over the world). Besides, what are higher taxes when we can have people with higher educations, which can then contribute more? Better than taxes that benefit nobody (like our stupid HST that we have in Ontario now).

As for Global Warming, it is not necessarily warming. It has to do with climate change, which many people fail to realize. For example, the deserts in Africa and South America are expanding right now, and the polar icecaps are melting (causing rising sea levels). In fact, one of my past teachers once told me that Fiji might be gone in about 40 or 50 years. Also, the summer of 2010 was one of the hottest on record so far, easily making it to 40°C+ when it should barely reach 30, and even snowing in May/June in some areas that usually supply crops (because it was cold enough for it in Alberta). Again though, this is not necessarily a topic on climate change.

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A government is made to put laws into effect, and enforce them.
Actually, those laws are supposed to take care of the citizens (at least, that is how it should be). For example, there is a reason why murder is not legal: dangerous. There is a reason why marijuana is not legal: paper companies would be in deep crap if it was. So, in your words, "what the F made you thing that?"

And this might end what I have to say on government for the night, I might have to go to bed soon because of the fact that my illness has lasted for two weeks now, and I am still as sick as I was last week. On the positive side, if it becomes lethal, I don't have to worry about paying an excessive amount of money for treatment.

Have a nice day.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2010, 07:09:15 AM »

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Not quite true, it does have some good things. Personally though, I prefer democratic socialism over straight socialism. That way, we get a nice, healthy blend. Make it easier to give to poorer people without taking from wealthier people.

Then where does the money come from? It has to come from somewhere... Oh yeah! That's right! Higher taxes and printing money will solve it all!(sarcasm)

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And then again, not everyone has a choice. For example, there are people who are kept out of school to work. They need to earn money to help the family, but they can not get an education.

Really? Because I have a brother who is earning money to help my family AND he is getting a good education, he has plenty of free time as well.

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So they pass minimum wage laws?

The government has no business in what someone pays us, its the same thing has how much you earn. This answer is kind of vague can you please elaborate?  

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Well, people in some countries do not even pay taxes for kids to go to elementary school (so there are kids who can not even go to school, millions of them all over the world)

The way public school handles education is mediocre compared to homeschooling, if you do it right, the right way, would be leadership education.

In school you can't learn to read at the first grade, they wont let you learn to read, basically you can homeschool your kid until he is the age to go to first grade, you can teach him/her reading before that time and it will all go to waste because they won't let you progress past anyone. Basically, those kids who are getting homeschooled are probably learning more then you have. You know MOST of the founding fathers of the USA were all homeschooled, and they were MUCH smarter than the average US citizen.

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Besides, what are higher taxes when we can have people with higher educations, which can then contribute more? Better than taxes that benefit nobody (like our stupid HST that we have in Ontario now).

Yup, once you have an education you can't put a use to it because the government taxes you so much the money you earn is all stolen by the government.

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As for Global Warming, it is not necessarily warming. It has to do with climate change, which many people fail to realize. For example, the deserts in Africa and South America are expanding right now, and the polar icecaps are melting (causing rising sea levels). In fact, one of my past teachers once told me that Fiji might be gone in about 40 or 50 years. Also, the summer of 2010 was one of the hottest on record so far, easily making it to 40°C+ when it should barely reach 30, and even snowing in May/June in some areas that usually supply crops (because it was cold enough for it in Alberta). Again though, this is not necessarily a topic on climate change.

Yup, first its global warming, next its climate change, what is it going to be next? Global cooling? Also, there have been much hotter years than 2010, I would know I have lived through it, besides you wouldn't know anyway, you live in Canada. You know, you can't believe everything you hear, for example, the US government says that the US economy is fine, yet its obvious what is true; they are lying to our faces.  But I do agree with you on one thing, this isn't on topic, so how about we stop discussing it? And just to let you know you were the one to bring it up.

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Actually, those laws are supposed to take care of the citizens (at least, that is how it should be). For example, there is a reason why murder is not legal: dangerous. There is a reason why marijuana is not legal: paper companies would be in deep crap if it was. So, in your words, "what the F made you thing that?"

No! Not to take care of you, those laws are created to protect you, but those were laws that the citizens voted on, the government now is trying to pass laws despite the fact that the general populace of the US don't want, the new US health care is a prime example of this. The government isn't made to take care of you like your little babies that can't do anything, but that is what the current government is trying to do, they think that we are all dumb idiots.

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On the positive side, if it becomes lethal, I don't have to worry about paying an excessive amount of money for treatment.

Too bad you will have to pay for it later in taxes.
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January 17, 2018, 04:07:51 PM
KyleRunner: :D
January 16, 2018, 08:44:56 PM
Fox: I must say... life can be complicated..... when you have question(s) (via email) ... and it seems like they sort of get ignored. :D ; Fun, (And sometimes, a person may respond, and completely not answer the question.... so like... 3-person conversation.) Hahahaha!!
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Fox: (path) 1 text=(address) char=(address) free=(address) ; << Well, closer to this... but yeah... even if I do choose to have defaults in the code, I could still use this method for overrides.
January 15, 2018, 07:24:28 PM
Fox: So like (path) 0 text=(address) char=(address) len=(number) ; (path) 1 free=(address) ; Or something. But that's just a quick example.
January 15, 2018, 06:59:14 PM
Fox: Hopefully. I was wanting to make it so you could put in the addresses/etc. as one of the arguments in the path. Hm?
January 15, 2018, 03:37:07 PM
KyleRunner: Nice! I hope you'll add compatibility with others games (GS1, Mario Golf and Tennis) soon.
January 14, 2018, 11:40:09 PM
Fox: Okay. Posted (in Downloads section) an initial cutdown version for now, for my text compressor. Basically to separate the code from my Editor for anyone who wants to mess with it. It only supports GS2, because I still didn't add the addresses/etc. for the other games.
January 14, 2018, 05:01:00 PM
Fox: Okay! Going to need to think how I want it to work. Initial thoughts is maybe have a number of arguments in the filepath thing. And have a number of shortcuts (files) to be used as examples. Assuming there are no problems.
January 14, 2018, 10:38:24 AM
KyleRunner: Well... I'm used to editing text ina a text editor, so... yes! Thanks in advance!
January 13, 2018, 11:38:43 PM
Fox: (Text editor = Text Document like notepad.)
January 13, 2018, 11:38:21 PM
Fox: Would you prefer during the text editing in a text editor? (Like what gstoolkit lets you do?) I could probably make a separate tool or something to compress it.
January 13, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
KyleRunner: Ok. Once I finish my Lost Age translation, I'll try a Mario Golf one. Thanks. (But I'll need help).
January 13, 2018, 10:03:17 PM
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January 13, 2018, 10:00:11 PM
Fox: Reload/switch = Recommended to be done through Debug mode/warp menu, ofcourse... since doors seem to appear as if they were disabled? ; 03001238:01 and B+Start to get to warp menu.
January 13, 2018, 09:55:39 PM
Fox: @Kyle Runner = It might be, but you'd have to use the correct addresses for Mario Golf, rather than for GS2 as I have it right now. ; @raijinken = Yes. 02000454 = ID of leader. (Change this and reload/switch room you are in, enjoy.)
January 13, 2018, 02:23:29 PM
raijinken: Hey guys, is it possible to somehow change the lead character on the map? Was wondering. I remember there was a cheat to use Jenna, but what if I wanted Isaac, or Piers?
January 13, 2018, 02:10:03 PM
KyleRunner: Hey, Fox *
January 13, 2018, 02:09:37 PM
KyleRunner: Hey, is your text editor compatible with Mario Golf (GBA)?
January 11, 2018, 08:33:13 PM
Fox: But if it isn't an oversight, I still can't imagine it being that useful.
January 11, 2018, 08:28:24 PM
Fox: part, ofcourse.

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