Should we help Joao?

[jjppof]

New Video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJmUNTOLAiM

[Luna_blade]

Ah!  So you implemented the reduced damage for adjacent enemies? That's good.

[jjppof]

Help me making a list of scripting things, not database things:

----------------------------------------------------------
Maybe It's Ok
Maybe needs to improve
Needs to be improved
Needs to be done
Implemented after this list be done
----------------------------------------------------------

> Djinn/Summon
 - The system by itself
 - Permanent Pow/Res changes (djinns)
 - Temporary Pow changes (summons)
 - Class change
> Damage formulas
 - Atack
 - Elemental Atack
 - Critical
 - Summon
 - Skills formulas
 - Skills magnitude
 - Variance
> Animated battle system
> Weapon unleash
> Field psynergy
> Enemy Multiple Turns
> Game zoom -> thats gonna be a problem
> Game collide system
> Jump
> Exp Curve
> Game Map
> Ailments

What else?

[Daddy Poi's Oily Gorillas]

Ooh!! You finally got to the list? The list of things that need to be done before the first release? Yay!

Not sure, but maybe you can add in something where you can't quite beat the battle until something happens?

Examples:
Poseidon = Trident needed.
Agatio/Karst on Jupiter Lighthouse = All PCs need to meet back up after a number of turns.

-Does the ">Weapon unleash" go under ">Damage formula"?

[Luna_blade]

EDIT:
Random damage? IDK exactly, but striking a monster in GS twice results in different damage eacht time?
Or is this already listed?

Status effects? Poison, paralyzed, sleep etc. And I guess stat lowering moves like dispair or spider web fall under temp stat changes?

Also which EXP curve? The one that is assigned specifically to each character?
Either way, I guess I can help you find or make it.

[jjppof]

Not sure, but maybe you can add in something where you can't quite beat the battle until something happens?

Examples:
Poseidon = Trident needed.
Agatio/Karst on Jupiter Lighthouse = All PCs need to meet back up after a number of turns.

RPG Maker eventing can deal with it. No script needed.

-Does the ">Weapon unleash" go under ">Damage formula"?

Actually, the 'Weapon unleash' is just the chance system for a atack be substituted by a skill of the skill list. The system just associates the weapon with the skill, given the chance to be unleashed. At the skill list, the engine user puts the damage formula that he wants.

Random damage? IDK exactly, but striking a monster in GS twice results in different damage eacht time?
Or is this already listed?

I think you are talking about variance which is really random. RPG Maker lets me handle it:

Status effects? Poison, paralyzed, sleep etc. And I guess stat lowering moves like dispair or spider web fall under temp stat changes?

That's true. Till now I haven't given a looked on this. Putting this in the next steps...

[Kain]

GM Note:  jjppof, watch the double posting yo.  Edit your previous post if you have to add something.

[leaf]

What does the "variance: 8" specifically do?

The actual formula uses rand(0,3) to determine the amount of randomly added damage/healing, so an attack that's calculated to do 277 damage could do anywhere between 277 and 280 damage (this is also why herbs can heal anywhere between 50 and 53 hp).

[Rolina]

Variance in GS is basically just adding a random number between 0 and 3, iirc.  That means that you'd need to have it as part of the damage formula in RPG maker, and use 0 for its variance, which is a + or - percentage (in the case you have there, +/- 8%).  GS' variance is really negligible.

[jjppof]

It is just put variance 3 and add 1.5 at damage formula. And I'm almost 100% sure that variance isn't in percentage.

Also which EXP curve? The one that is assigned specifically to each character?
Either way, I guess I can help you find or make it.

The values I have from GS Editor, but RPG Maker can't generate a curve just like the real GS Engine to implement this values. I will have to script something for it or write manually the exp for each level of each char.

[Kain]

GM Notice:  Twice in one day.  You got a warning now.  Nothing personal, you understand.

[jjppof]

GM Notice:  Twice in one day.  You got a warning now.  Nothing personal, you understand.

Yeah.. I tried do fix the error, but I couldn't delete the duplicated post... I was just waiting you to do it for me 

[Kain]

I don't know if regular members have the option near the top right of their post where the "Edit" "Quote" and other buttons are.

[jjppof]

I don't know if regular members have the option near the top right of their post where the "Edit" "Quote" and other buttons are.

I joined my posts, but I couldn't delete the second one, I don't have this option. So I left that message.
And you have to give me some credit. I'm Brazilian, I'm HU3.

[Kain]

Fair enough.  It's only a single warning though so I wouldn't worry about it.

[Rolina]

No, I'm sure RPGMaker uses a percentile with its variance.  I've been using that on my formulas to be a +/- 3%, which I find to be a more preferable variance over the +Rand(0,3).

[jjppof]

No, I'm sure RPGMaker uses a percentile with its variance.  I've been using that on my formulas to be a +/- 3%, which I find to be a more preferable variance over the +Rand(0,3).

You're right, it's in percentage. So I decided to change it:

def apply_variance(damage, variance)
    #amp = [damage.abs * variance / 100, 0].max.to_i
    #var = rand(amp + 1) + rand(amp + 1) - amp
    var = rand(variance) #generates a integer from 0 to variance
    damage >= 0 ? damage + var : damage - var
end

[jjppof]

Look How I made these things:

Exp Curve:
Two options:
  > Manually
  > Following a formula
 
#manually
  EXPTABLE = [
  [0, 25, 70, 151, 289], #and so on...  Char 1
  [ 0 ], #Char 2
  [ 0 ], #Char 3
  [ 0 ], #Char 4
  [ 0 ], #Char 5
  [ 0 ], #Char 6
  [ 0 ], #Char 7
  [ 0 ]  #Char 8
  ]
 
  #formula
  def ExpValues.formula(actorID) # This method can be called if a char is gonna follow a exp curve formula
    ExpValues::EXPTABLE[actorID - 1] = []
    for level in 1..99
      ExpValues::EXPTABLE[actorID - 1] << ((1.15**level) - 1).round.to_i #just a example of formula, not real
    end
  end
 

Elemental Physical Atack (EPA)

Weapon Note, in this case Gaia Blade:


4 means earth for me.


Enemy Multiple Turns



This enemy attacks 3 times.

[Luna_blade]

Look How I made these things:

Exp Curve:
Two options:
 > Manually
 > Following a formula
 
#manually
 EXPTABLE = [
 [0, 25, 70, 151, 289], #and so on...  Char 1
 [ 0 ], #Char 2
 [ 0 ], #Char 3
 [ 0 ], #Char 4
 [ 0 ], #Char 5
 [ 0 ], #Char 6
 [ 0 ], #Char 7
 [ 0 ]  #Char 8
 ]
 
 #formula
 def ExpValues.formula(actorID) # This method can be called if a char is gonna follow a exp curve formula
   ExpValues::EXPTABLE[actorID - 1] = []
   for level in 1..99
     ExpValues::EXPTABLE[actorID - 1] << ((1.15**level) - 1).round.to_i #just a example of formula, not real
   end
 end

Uhh I'm not familiar with RPGmaker language, but I guess the formula is better, because it saves you a lot of time. Just make sure that each induvidual character gets his own curve. (there is a huge difference between Isaac and Ivan for example)
Well then, if you can get it closer manually do it I guess.

[jjppof]

Uhh I'm not familiar with RPGmaker language, but I guess the formula is better, because it saves you a lot of time. Just make sure that each induvidual character gets his own curve. (there is a huge difference between Isaac and Ivan for example)

This code let you use both cases mixed. You can use formulas for all chars, or manually for all chars, or formula for 5 five chars and manually for 3.
For the formula case, must there is one method for each char so that everyone can have his own formula. But I can think in a way to pass the formula maybe using regex, dont know if it's better than each one have his own method. **edit** Actually, passing the formula, I dont need to pass a 99 loop for each char using formula... **/edit**
The manually case is good because you can have exactly the same exp curve of the original GS.