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Let's talk about ridiculous release delay.

Started by Atrius, 29, April, 2010, 01:30:13 AM

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Rolina

Oh, you had just joined?  I was under the impression you'd been with them longer than that.  Okay, that explains it then.

Aile~♥

Wait, so how does exe file not equal source code? Couldn't you just, like, open the .exe in Notepad to grab the code, like you can with most other applications? I do that sort of thing quite often, usually for Windows command scripts.
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Lloyd: Easy as pie.
Genis: Sweet!
Presea: ...Sweetie pie...
Zelos: Let's not start on this again...

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Hoopa

Erm. No Jamie you can't. The .exe file is a final product, and you can't edit it anymore. You need the source code in order to make changes to the program and then create a new .exe file
"You seek the truth but are you able to handle it? What you find may not be what you expected... and it may ruin you in the end. Knowing that, will you continue onwards in your journey? Or will you give up and return to a life of apathy? The choice is yours..."

Atrius (He/Him)

Usually when you create an executable you're compiling your source code into byte code similar to compiled ASM for the GBA, but much more complex.  That being said, Game Maker doesn't actually compile the code, but it does compress & encrypt it which makes it equally as illegible in notepad.
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Aile~♥

So I've noticed, having recently tried it myself.
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Lloyd: Easy as pie.
Genis: Sweet!
Presea: ...Sweetie pie...
Zelos: Let's not start on this again...

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Rolina

Even still, though, we need a working release, preferably sooner rather than later.

Aile~♥

Really, Atrius should work at this one feature at a time. He has a nice release so far, but we do need progress. So here's a suggestion: Don't try to pile all these new features in as one release. That takes forever and leaves everyone bored for the year-and-a-half in the mean time [twistknife]. Instead, do this one feature at a time. So, for example:

Take v0.2, fix bugs, upload result as v0.2.1. Add Djinn editing (and do some testing to try and spot the bugs yourself), upload result as v0.2.2. Fix bugs (the ones you didn't fix the first time around), upload result as v0.2.3. Add Summon editing, etc.

And I KNOW this issue has been brought up before, but Atrius didn't do anything about it.
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Lloyd: Easy as pie.
Genis: Sweet!
Presea: ...Sweetie pie...
Zelos: Let's not start on this again...

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Rolina

Isn't it amusing that we've gone from [/stab] to [twistknife] now?  Just shows how badly we need it, and how much we're pushing it.

Tetsuya the Azure Blade


Aile~♥

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Lloyd: Easy as pie.
Genis: Sweet!
Presea: ...Sweetie pie...
Zelos: Let's not start on this again...

[spoiler=epic mindscrew][/spoiler]

Rolina

I'd rate your comment down if I didn't feel the same way, Nero.  You pretty much nailed how people are feeling right now.

Hoopa

Ouch. I feel sorry for Atrius... so many knife wounds... Then again, it wouldn't hurt to have a new release...
"You seek the truth but are you able to handle it? What you find may not be what you expected... and it may ruin you in the end. Knowing that, will you continue onwards in your journey? Or will you give up and return to a life of apathy? The choice is yours..."

Atrius (He/Him)

2 months... I give you an estimated date of release just 2 months out, and you piss all over my cheerios...  Thanks I feel so motivated to work on the editor now.

*siiiii-iiiiiiiiiii-iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-iiiiiiiiiiiiiii-* takes a breath *-iiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*

Projects canceled, Peace out!


Heh, sorry, bad joke, just kidding.  Look people, I know I dug myself into a hole with v0.3, I'm trying to dig myself back out.  Currently it's just not feasible to release just a bug fixed version of 0.2, but I'm taking steps to ensure that's not the case for future versions.  And yes, Jamie, the plan to avoid these horrendous delays between future versions is to only work on one feature between them.

I've had a hell of a busy past year and half, having just joined the military around that time.  When it's one of those days I've been working around 3 weeks straight without a single day off, and I get off work after being there 11 hours I'm exhausted and just want to rest, so sorry I don't work on the editor as much right now.  Summer is a busy time for us up here, but around September things start to slow down.
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Hoopa

Yay! Only about two months to wait? That's awesome!
"You seek the truth but are you able to handle it? What you find may not be what you expected... and it may ruin you in the end. Knowing that, will you continue onwards in your journey? Or will you give up and return to a life of apathy? The choice is yours..."

felixsrg

Is good to hear you are still working on this, slowly but still working, keep up the good work.

The sun is shining again, and his new story is about to start... Golden Sun Dark Dawn.

Rolina

Well, sorry we went all jack the ripper on you so 'close' to release, but we all needed to get rid of a lot of frustration in this issue.  We hope you understand.

Tetsuya the Azure Blade

Quote from: Atrius on 25, August, 2010, 10:06:58 PM
2 months... I give you an estimated date of release just 2 months out, and you piss all over my cheerios...
Who said anything about pissing on your cheerios?

Aile~♥

I didn't even know you HAD cheerios!

Honestly, though, sorry for being such a jerk. But, I really did need to get rid of some frustration on the issue.
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Lloyd: Easy as pie.
Genis: Sweet!
Presea: ...Sweetie pie...
Zelos: Let's not start on this again...

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leaf

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[9:00:50 PM] Randel Peltier: Ok...what did I do last night?
[9:01:19 PM] Kain: Something boring, repetitive, and lasted for about sixty seconds.
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[10:45:08 AM] Salanewt: But yeah, the elemental phalluses are being... Stroked up by Saturos and co., and the energy will go towards... Mt. Muffin, where the Golden Climax will arise.
[7:28:42 PM] Salanewt: An added bonus is that Isaac and co. were trying to stop Saturos and co. because their beliefs state that Mt. Muffin should remain a virgin.
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[9:54:21 PM] Randel Peltier: Guess the number in my head an you get to pick what I say. Number between 1-10
[9:54:28 PM] leaf: 11
[9:54:36 PM] Randel Peltier: @#$%!
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[8:38:13 PM] Randel Peltier: Shes like this queen up on a pedastal that I have yet to court.
[8:38:29 PM] Kain: You've tried courting her.
[8:38:43 PM] leaf: and failed spectacularly
[8:38:44 PM] Randel Peltier: Ive tried...shes the best dating game ever.
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[12:24:35 AM] Salanewt: I need to find a picture of a naked person to put on the Christmas tree next year.
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[2:19:06 PM] Zeadra: wait... Rief's a guy???
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[1:09:57 PM] Zeadra: well if you want to know if its a new effect or something weird, just check GS1, if side step is there maby it is the nimble dodge thing
[1:10:35 PM] Kioll: For once, you've contributed something useful.  o.O[/spoiler]

Salanewt

Or a Valentine's day release, so we can all fall in love with it at the appropriate time. Of course, two months is perfect for us right now.

Salty-nut Cheerios anyone? Just make sure that after those [twistknives] that I saw earlier, you do not throw his Cheerios.

Have a nice day.

Edit: I love how people were saying a few months ago "take your time," and now they are juggling knives to try to get you to hurry up.
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